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The American Civil War of 2005 as predicted by John Titor

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posted on Jul, 9 2006 @ 10:44 PM
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Originally posted by syrinx high priest
please provide back up for your claim here. titor never said it would be gov't vs citizen

how is that a civil war anyway ???


c'mon people, focus


you never really could read between the lines could you.

"The enemy that was attacked by Russia in the U.S. was the forces of the government you live under right now. "

enemy=government forces. He also talks about federal police and national guard being the enemies as well.

I was just pointing out the flaw in the statement made that it would be red vs blue or even rural vs city. City would be the enemy because of the amount of security forces it will have.

Titor is a liar though, and its easy to prove. A hint for you if you like to catch him in a lie, everytime he mentions his age write it down. add up?




posted on Jul, 9 2006 @ 10:47 PM
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you can say Titor's is a liar how many times you want, but there ain't indeniable proof of that.



posted on Jul, 9 2006 @ 10:50 PM
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dr like I said, go to the archive, write down the year and his age everytime he mentions how old he is. Still think he doesnt lie?



posted on Jul, 9 2006 @ 10:54 PM
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how many times does he answer the same question about his age ? what are his replys ? i've never noticed unmatching ages on his story.

[edit on 9-7-2006 by DrExtravaganza]



posted on Jul, 9 2006 @ 11:34 PM
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Nevermind it adds up, the two dates were mixed up while I was reading. my bad. Though his age dates are a bit fishy when it comes to going to school and such. it almost doesn't add up. seems like it might or might not depending on the semantics.



posted on Jul, 10 2006 @ 12:14 AM
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Indigo_Child:
The link you mentioned about Titor, that had the photos on it..... in one he says the "laser" can be seen through cigar smoke, yet there is no smoke.
Another says something about a time travel device in "some unknown vehicle", yet it looks like a ford van.
How this guy gets 120+ pages of "discussion" is beyond me.
Hey???? Can members sell stuff in the ATS store? I could make a tidy sum selling tin foil hats.



posted on Jul, 10 2006 @ 12:22 AM
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quote by ThatsJustWeird


And GE's stocks are going through the roof based on an announcement that they have a plan that would make them the only surviving company should a 10 year civil war followed by a nuclear war and WW3 break out


REPLY: I just checked, and the 52 week range for GE stock is: High: 36.34 Low: 32.21, and they were down .20 as of Friday closing at 34.03.
What side of the looking glass are you on?

Grimreaper is only 17, he went to a public school in New york, too..... so he's a bit mixed up, but at least he's trying!



posted on Jul, 10 2006 @ 12:06 PM
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Are you all aware of the Massada plan from Israël? Read history about the Massada suicide... The plan consist that if Israël is too much hurt, or gonna be wipe off, they gonna kill their killers and those who support it before dying. This mean if they continue to do their crap in palestine, and Iran, Syria, Egypt and other countries attack Israël, Israël could nuke em back and then WW3.



posted on Jul, 10 2006 @ 06:52 PM
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Originally posted by zappafan1
REPLY: I just checked, and the 52 week range for GE stock is: High: 36.34 Low: 32.21, and they were down .20 as of Friday closing at 34.03.
What side of the looking glass are you on?

I was being highly sarcastic with that GE remark


I'm on the side of the glass that sees Titor as the hoax he is.


Grimreaper is only 17, he went to a public school in New york, too..... so he's a bit mixed up, but at least he's trying!

Yeah I know...
He's still very young and has a lot to learn. Like ignoring people who are trying to tell you the truth is not the answer and doesn't solve anything

But I guess ignorance is bliss....

[edit on 10-7-2006 by ThatsJustWeird]



posted on Jul, 10 2006 @ 09:59 PM
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by ThatsJustWeird

He's still very young and has a lot to learn. Like ignoring people who are trying to tell you the truth is not the answer and doesn't solve anything

But I guess ignorance is bliss....

REPLY: I've had the same argumants with him before; it was a bad attempt on my part to be sarcastic and suppostive at the same time; my bad.

By the way, you and I are on the same side of the looking glass.



posted on Jul, 13 2006 @ 01:51 PM
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update....

30 months without a waco event, and no LHC at cern yet. can we call this a hoax and be done with it ?

I still haven't seen a good explanation of how JT dealt with the hawking radiation or the weight of the black holes (they are kinda dense, y'know) he carried in his vette



posted on Jul, 13 2006 @ 03:22 PM
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No one in blue America


REPLY: We really should switch colors between the parties, as it would be so much more accurate.


".... is the least bit angry that our right-wing boomer political elite and their Democrat enablers are driving this country into bankruptcy..."


REPLY: Even taking the costs of the war into account, the decifit is only 2.9% of GDP, and is shrinking every day thanks to the tax rate reductions. More is spent on Health and Human Services (Marxism/Socialism/un-Constitutional) than on the war and 80% of all other expenditures.


"....decimating our civil liberties, rolling back free speech...."


REPLY: Care to site where this has happened to the actual laws?


"....shredding the last strands of the social safety net...."


REPLY: Every single "safety net" is un-Constitutional (Social Security, Welfare, WIC, medicare, Medicaid et-al. Please show me where the Constitution where it says we have a "right" to health care, etc,etc. They are ALL Socialist/Marxist programs. Getting rid of the "Social Programs" are a return to the Constitutional values we once had. 'Nor is there a 'right" to a job, an education, a house, etc.


"... selling off Washington to the worst corporate special interests...."


REPLY: George Soros, criminal, OWNS the Democratic party. The Department of Education (not) is a special interest....


".... selling out the middle class and working people...."


REPLY: Who received the most benefit from the tax rate reductions, and more and more people are now moving into the upper middle class.


behaving with craven irresponsibility on matters of global and civilizational importance (from global warming...."


REPLY: Only 1% of which is caused by humans; water vapor and Sun spots/Solar activity being the main cause..... that's another thread or two.


".... to the world court to land mines to the ABM treaty)...."


REPLY: We're aiding the reduction of land mines; they're old technology..... although I'm all for putting them on our Southern border. The "World Court" is part of the new World Order (you want us in that?) and would render much of our Constitution useless, and reduce our sovereignty.


".... not to mention *disappearing* and *torturing* people to death."


REPLY: Extraordinary Rendition began under the previous administration; no "secret prisons" have yet to be found. Hmmmmm how much intelligence do you get from a dead man? Doesn't make sense to me.


"245 Million and change of those 296 have an IQ below that of the average college graduate. 222 million have an IQ at or below 98 which makes them fundamentally incapable of understanding the truth behind 'loaded', hollow, words like values, freedom, and Justice."


REPLY: Care to link to where you got those figures.... where they tested every American? I know the public schools and colleges are atrocious and dismal, but those figures lack substance.

Damn.... has this thread gotten off topic... not that it hasn't happened before. Here's an attempt. I'd like to see a study, using the above intelligence figures as a start, that correlates the lower figures to those who actually believe Titor is a "Time Travelor" .... carried a Black Hole in his car?

[edit on 13-7-2006 by zappafan1]



posted on Jul, 13 2006 @ 08:34 PM
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Originally posted by Vitchilo
This mean if they continue to do their crap in palestine, and Iran, Syria, Egypt and other countries attack Israël, Israël could nuke em back and then WW3.


Where exactly is "palestine"?



posted on Jul, 13 2006 @ 09:01 PM
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Where is Israël is, in Gaza and Cisjordanie.



posted on Jul, 14 2006 @ 05:24 AM
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Hmmm.... let's play it again Sam...


Apart from being "electrocuted alive" nowadays (read: taser and the Waco-style methods happening now) or being "cooked alive" in the very near future... I would like to focus again on this other very very interesting and VERY HOT John Titor quote:


John Titor
"The Jewish population in Israel is not prepared for a true offensive war. They are prepared for the ultimate defense. Wavering western support for Israel is what gives Israel's neighbors the confidence to attack. The last resort for a defensive Israel and its offensive Arab neighbors is to use weapons of mass destruction. In the grand scheme of things, the war in the Middle East is a part of what's to come, not the cause."


Can we say the party has only just began in Beirut?....Condi: "It is extremely important that Israel exercise restraint in its acts of self-defense,"……..



www.bloomberg.com...
Israel Extends Air Raids in Lebanon After Hezbollah Attacks
July 14 (Bloomberg) -- Israel extended air raids in Lebanon after Hezbollah fired rockets into the port city of Haifa, as U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said the United Nations should take the lead in preventing the conflict from escalating.

Israeli jets today struck near a Hezbollah stronghold in the Lebanese capital, Beirut, and along the highway linking Lebanon to the Syrian capital, Damascus, the Israeli daily newspaper Haaretz reported. Air force jets yesterday bombed Beirut's international airport. Hezbollah responded to the airport attack by firing rockets into Haifa, Israel's third-largest city.

UN Secretary General Kofi Annan sent a three-member team to the region. The UN effort is the ``best opportunity for de- escalation of this crisis,'' U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said late yesterday in Germany.

The fighting in Lebanon has opened a second front for Israel, which is carrying out a separate military operation in the Gaza Strip that began June 28. Israeli aircraft attacked two military airports and the navy imposed a blockade on Lebanese ports. The fighting, which began two days ago, has killed at least 56 people and may threaten a broader conflict in the Middle East.


Uh oh...... yet another very very interesting John Titor quote making very very much sense all of a sudden:


John Titor
Can anyone tell me how many companies in the United States still manufacture bicycle tires today? Anyone who still has a bike in 2008 will find out.




money.guardian.co.uk...
Middle East crisis pushes oil to record high
Friday July 14, 2006 (Guardian) -- Oil prices raced to new highs for a second day running amid fears of escalating violence in the Middle East.

Prices rose to more than $78 a barrel as Israel stepped up its attacks on Lebanon with air raids on Beirut's southern suburbs.
Israel imposed an air and sea blockade on Lebanon after two soldiers were seized by the militant group Hizbullah.

Although Israel and Lebanon do not produce oil, fears of a knock-on effect to the wider Middle East region, which produces one-third of the world's crude, has rattled oil and stock markets.


Now, why do I feel this “incident” will destabilize the West even more?…. oh boy…. that John Titor...



posted on Jul, 14 2006 @ 07:35 PM
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hey roth

what about the 30 months with no wacko events ?
the hawking radiation and the weight of the black holes ?


what about the LHC at cern still not being up ?

can you adress these points individually pretty please ?

[edit on 14-7-2006 by syrinx high priest]



posted on Jul, 15 2006 @ 12:30 AM
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Where exactly is "palestine"?


REPLY: Palestine... you know.. the land right next to Isreal. The land lost to Isreal after losing the four wars the "palestinians" started; which are "conquered" lands, but they call them "occupied."



posted on Jul, 15 2006 @ 12:33 AM
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Titor had a black hole in his vette (there's a joke in their somewhere, but I ain't going there). Can the car detailing guys get that stain out?

He travels in time. 120 pages on this crap???

Bye .......



posted on Jul, 15 2006 @ 12:36 AM
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Originally posted by syrinx high priest
hey roth

what about the 30 months with no wacko events ? The hawking radiation and the weight of the black holes ? What about the LHC at cern still not being up ?

Can you adress these points individually pretty please ?

[edit on 14-7-2006 by syrinx high priest]


REPLY: he can't/ won't because you confused him with facts.



posted on Jul, 15 2006 @ 01:25 PM
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If waco events go as unreported as phyiscians on strike in germany (ie not at all) there's no way to tell.

I'd say you're conveniently overlooking the Middle Eastern crisis revolving around Isreal and all, who are currently using pretty offensice tactics, i'd say. wait a second, didn't someone say something about Isreal not being prepared for offense, but the ultimate defense ? yeah, that's what he said....

PS: zappa, i cordially suggest you a) condense your 2 liners into one post instead of three consecutive ones and b) take the word



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out of at least two, i mean, just lean back and take an unprejudiced look, mmh=?

if you're going to tell me now that i'm not a mod, spare yourself the trouble, i mean we do have guidelines on long threads and if you insist we can still ask one of them for his/her honest opinion, y'know?



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