What do you think about “peak oil theory” and a possible connection with Titor ‘s “predictions?
I was very fascinated when I first read about titor some years ago, watching for signs which never came up, and I was also reading this thread
regularly. As 2006 came close I started to believe it was a Hoax, until I came across a site about peak oil. Nothing extremely new for me, but the
following text looked familiar…
“As the US economy begins to disintegrate, civil unrest may become increasingly violent and widespread. Each faction of the American body-politic
will likely rally around reactionary political demagogues/movements who promise to bring back the good days by eliminating whatever domestic or
foreign group(s) they have decided are at fault for the economic and geopolitical unraveling. Liberals will blame "Bush, Big-Oil and the Hard Right
Neocons" while conservatives will blame "Bin-Laden, Big-Government, and the Extreme Left Environmentalists." The anticipation of massive unrest may
be the real reason why the Department of Homeland Security has contracted with a Halliburton subsidiary to build massive new domestic detenetion
camps. In 1985, the authors of Beyond Oil: The Threat to Fuel and Food in the Coming Decades, warned us of such possiblities:
A stagnant or shrinking economy will have a major effect on
society’s expectations. With few exceptions, each generation
in the United States has become materially better off than
the preceding one. This pattern of increasing wealth has
become an indelible part of the American Dream; a higher
standard of living than our parents is practically a birthright.
These expectations are the standard against which actual
performance is judged. During times of failed expectations, a
society is especially vulnerable to a person or philosophy
promising to restore it to its former glory. The fall of the
Weimar Germany is probably the best example.
As commentator Robert Freeman pointed out in 2004, the end of oil may result in the end of America as we know it."
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Suddenly a lot of previously impossible predictions became clear. Titor described a post oil society as it is described by many pages about peak oil.
Small communities, with localized production, enormous problems at product distribution, I am sure you remember about the importance of bicycle tyres!
The current improbability of civil war – unrest in USA is easy to overcome, not through a metaphysical prophesy or through a Mayan scripture lost in
the jungle, but with a rational analysis of the modern economy and the unavoidable fact of oil depletion. A probable future unrest of the west would
not have a politic origin e.g. revolution, racial hate but it would be a result of “economic disintegration”. I can’t confirm about how solid
is peak oil theory, I am not expert in this field, but is seems quite possible, it is supported with many statistical data, and also as a phenomenon
it has partially happened before with the depletion of USA and Germany oil. For more information about peak oil check the above source link or any
We can also understand the repulsion Titor showed to current generation, it is not just a broad moral - ethical judgement but an straight accusation
for the results of our actions as individuals and nations (at least democratic ones), which actions are the over consumption and the support of the
current irrational economy system, which will lead to the problematic post oil world described by Titor, through a troubled and bloody period.
So to play the role of Calchas, based on Titor and peak oil theory texts: USA knows the peak oil is imminent, no other reliable energy source is
currently available, she makes the strategic choice to control military and/or politically the last vast sources of oil -> Arabia peninsula -> Iraq ->
Iran -> other states Venezuela, Libya, Syria ->strong presence in central Asia through Afghanistan to keep an eye in the minor (compared to the
previous) Caspian sea oil reserves. She succeeds BUT, there are two complications.
1. The “peak oil” takes place (2006-2010 which is not my prediction but the peak oil expectation) and The Great depression erupts, that makes old
ones appear like exam problems for undergraduate students of economics. Read peak oil sites, to see why it is inevitable, because of the structure of
modern economy (debts, eternal growth belief etc). Huge unemployment, poverty, famine, strikes the once super rich West countries, and it leads to
civil unrest. But remember the oil isn’t extinct, there “are” still huge amounts available which are controlled by mainly the USA government and
the West thus the elite and their guards (there is not enough oil for the masses anymore) which elite usually throughout history used to reside and
find refuge, during troubled times, in the major cities. The rest are obvious, police state, crime, and sweep operations against militia gangs who
try to loot cities provisions…
2. The hold of the last important resources of oil by USA and west leads to major international conflicts. Apart from the economic strangle of
countries like China Russia India perhaps Germany France and Japan, imagine the extreme military power that such a condition gives to the US. To
put it simple, you are the last one to possess the oil of the world during an extreme Global depression. The lack of oil for an army is like turning
the time back to 1900 for this side, while you still can fight with F16, stealth etc. I think the gap of dynamic between the above two armies is
greater than when Indians met the first Europeans in America. Well, unfortunately one thing still works without oil, I think you must have already
guessed right: Nuclear weapons. So we can now interpret the mysterious nuclear attack against USA as the last resort to level – equalize the
unprecedented unbalance of powers between the super powers of the future which was caused by the “USA foreign policy” of the last years. That’s
why Titor never mentions anything about occupation of parts of USA because in a post oil world such thing would be impossible since large scale
transportation would be extremely difficult. I cant recall any other similarities within Titor’s story it has been long ago since I have read it.
To anticipate those who will claim that I am a Titor fanatic, my impression is that the above Titor – peak oil connection has a contradiction. On
one side it makes the predictions of Titor more realistic and possible but on the other makes the probability that he “was” a time traveller less
possible. I don’t know when peak oil theory became widely available, for somebody to create a possible future outcome from it. It may be a good
indication. So it is highly possible that a clever individual based on post oil era prediction based on peak oil theorists has created this mess
That makes most of his predictions quite depended as a logical consequence on each other and not so genuine. For example if peak oil did happen, (it
was predicted to happen 2005-2006) and depression erupted it is normal that Olympic games 2006 or 2008 want happen either. The same goes to civil
unrest, stricter police measures and so on. Perhaps the only pure genuine evidence is the USA foreign policy about oil and the world war… I hope
someone else can make a better connection. Another problem is that I cant think of another probable timeline where oil does not end, so as peak oil
sites claim probability of peak oil 100%, and that is the most frightening…
Sorry for the long post it is a long thread anyway. I don’t know if anybody has already made this connection, Titorology isn’t my job and I have
lost track of this thread 30-50 pages ago. Also sorry for my strange english and I am happy to be with you in ATS forum since it is my first post.
[edit on 13-4-2006 by Dorian_gr]