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Shut up about impeachment and get your heads out of your rear.

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posted on Oct, 7 2019 @ 07:50 AM
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a reply to: JustJohnny

First off u need proof of collusion, not an email that mentions she got dirt but never provided anything. Plus, she was set-up by the Clinton campaign and met with Fusion GPS before and after the meeting, so it was the Clinton campaign that set-up the meeting.

Not to mention the Clinton campaign literally colluded with Ukraine to manufacture a fake ledger about Manafort and used foreign spies to set-up and frame the trump campaign, if that is not colluding with foreign governments than I don't know what is.




posted on Oct, 7 2019 @ 07:57 AM
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a reply to: Lumenari

Politics is not about the truth or reality anymore it's all about what you want to be be true...so it is.

Before things would happen, and things would calm down and the left and right would get about their business, but the MSM has gone all out to the point they don't even care that they get caught once in while twisting the truth, which they do all the time but don't get called out, and some of the American people believe it because they want to believe it.

Socialist propaganda that brands centrists as traitors has been done before(30's).....and it lead a country to a very dark place.
That is the path America is being pushed forward on.



posted on Oct, 7 2019 @ 08:13 AM
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originally posted by: tinner07



not only a liar, he is a bad one. His antics on the house floor are at best deplorable and at worst treasonous.
a reply to: Helious


You are speaking about the President right? Maybe you got something mixed up


Is that all you could muster with the entirety of your intellectual capabilities? This is your response? I pity you.



posted on Oct, 7 2019 @ 08:30 AM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Helious
I'd like to add, just because you don't like a person, agree with what they say or despise their political or moral values can you make up lies about them and parade them as fact in clever ways to affect the masses and hope that the truth of the matter wont win out.

Democrats have been trying so hard for decades to dumb down their voter base and it's worked but unfortunately, that voter base is still under 50% of the population.

Give it another college go in another 5 years.


It seems to me that the Democrats, socialists and liberals are over-represented in universities and colleges.

If anyone is 'dumbing down', it's clearly not them.



Did you REALLY say this??

it went totally over your head

and you replied like this

exactly the "dumbing down" crowd

Lots of liberals in College, so they are smart

did you get a degree in gender studies too? maybe it was a PHD (piled higher and deeper)

and the fact you MISSED the point was even more humorus

I should not have pointed it out though, I can't............

不不不不不不不不不不不莞


ZooooooooooooooM Whoooooosh



posted on Oct, 7 2019 @ 08:40 AM
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Discussing a vote on impeachment for a sitting POTUS in power for 3+ years because of hearsay from an undisclosed 3rd party whistle blower is not only patently ludicrous, it is also purposely damaging to our country, economy and the entire populations state of mind.


It's a constitutional RIGHT to face ones accuser.

When this 'whistleblower' works for the CIA ?

Hahaaa!

You got to be an idiot to buy it.



posted on Oct, 7 2019 @ 08:47 AM
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a reply to: neo96




It's a constitutional RIGHT to face ones accuser.


That's true in criminal cases, where one's freedom or property is at stake. This is an impeachment inquiry, not a criminal trial.

Let's say a customer files a complaint with your employer. Your employer can fire you without revealing who made the complaint. Same thing here.


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posted on Oct, 7 2019 @ 08:48 AM
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a reply to: infolurker

Indeed what creeps me out about Schiff though is when he gets being interviewed and does that weird eye movement its almost its like a brainwashing technique



posted on Oct, 7 2019 @ 08:49 AM
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Lets clear some things up folks.

There is NO IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY, what we have is "Political theater" and yes, it is a real thing. Usually the Judiciary committee takes the reigns on impeachment, but the intel committee is leading it?
To rebute this, PROVIDE LINK OF HOUSE VOTE ON A FORMAL IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY, until than,the House has not voted as a body to authorize an impeachment inquiry.

Pelosis announcment on TV is nothing more than a campaign ad, raising the profile, but not the legitimacy.

Secondly, Instance of obstruction of justice is what the Mueller team is trying to argue happened, however, these people views on Obstruction of Justice is a more broadened scope, it can almost be literally anything, thus as the report did. HOWEVER, the final verdict goes to the DOJ and their views on Obstruction of Justice is vastly different in scope, much more narrow and it was thus determined that none occured.

CASE CLOSED.

We are witnessing a dying party in histerical theatrics, but this is essentially the truest form of politics, these...shenanigans, hmmm?

I do admit, it's sad to see my fellow Americans, these leftist, so easily duped by leftist feed, a poison designed to appeal to the emotionally triggered. The result of consuming fake news and reinforcing their echo chamber with it.

As an American citizen, the only thing I care that my Government does is keep our Military strong, maintain geopolitical influence, strong trade with enforced agreements and our freedoms to do whatever. Trump is doing that, I don't need or care on the details or process, that's why we pay them the big bucks.

Oh that's right, Trump doesn't take a paycheck, in fact, people can vote on where it goes, to whatever charity.



posted on Oct, 7 2019 @ 08:52 AM
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a reply to: Arnie123



PROVIDE LINK OF HOUSE VOTE ON A FORMAL IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY


PROVIDE A LINK TO THE LAW STATING THIS IS A NECESSARY LEGAL STEP




Trump doesn't take a paycheck


Yes he does. It would be a violation of the Constitution, which he vowed to uphold, if he didn't. What he does with his paycheck is his business.


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posted on Oct, 7 2019 @ 08:53 AM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha
If you want to be TECHNICAL, yes he does, he has to.

But, you know what I mean, you're just trolling or don't realize it.



posted on Oct, 7 2019 @ 08:55 AM
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originally posted by: Helious
Adam Schiff is not only a liar, he is a bad one. His antics on the house floor are at best deplorable and at worst treasonous.


Based on your post, it appears you view lying as a bad thing. If that is so why do you give Donald Trump a pass when he has lied more than any other politician in the modern era? To be exact, he has told over 12,000 falsehoods since he has been in office.

Additionally, I don't think you understand what crimes amount to Treason. The US is currently not at war so Schiff could not have given aid or comfort to any enemy of the state. He also has not threatened war upon the country in any way. He is simply performing his duties as a Congressman. You may disapprove of his actions, but nothing he has done has come close to treason.




Discussing a vote on impeachment for a sitting POTUS in power for 3+ years because of hearsay from an undisclosed 3rd party whistle blower is not only patently ludicrous, it is also purposely damaging to our country, economy and the entire populations state of mind.


The Whistleblower laws specifically allow the whistleblower the right to remain anonymous. In addition, to the first whistleblower who only had second-hand information, there are now multiple new whistleblowers who have provided 1st hand information.


This whole fiasco from start to finish is full of half truths, embellishments and non demonstrable "evidence". This is easily proven and already has been on multiple fronts, multiple times.


So far, we have seen a whistleblower complaint, transcript, and text messages in which it appears Trump withheld aid from a country under siege until they gave him an investigation into Joe Biden. The White House has not released a single document to dispute any of these pieces of hard evidence.

Most Republicans are doing their best to avoid commenting to the media on this one and the ones who have spoken to the media use the line "It was a joke". So right now the only defense the White House has is spin and the word of a pathological liar.


And by the way, I would have advised the exact same remedy if the circumstances were identical and Obama held office. It's not about partisan politics, it's about common sense, rule of law and ultimately, those we trust in office actively hurting our country disingenuously.


In the end, this is about where do your true allegiances lie. Do you support the rule of law and the American institutions or do you support the man Donald Trump.



posted on Oct, 7 2019 @ 08:56 AM
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a reply to: Helious

Unfortunately, Trump is the one in the wrong here, and he is trying to make excuses and cover it up, there are a lot of conservative news outlets trying to deflect blame, as well.

What he just did in a tweet a minute ago is accuse Pelosi of treason. So he is willing to retaliate against people who criticize him, which is very unethical. He does not have a constitutional right to interfere with an impeachment process.

You guys will have to eventually decide if Trump is worth keeping around, he could very easily take the Republican Party down with him and does not seem opposed to destroying the nations stability to feed his own ego. More than likely, Trump would turn on any one of you if it suited his own interests.
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posted on Oct, 7 2019 @ 09:02 AM
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a reply to: Gorgonite

These people are idiots. They are being manipulated by someone who doesnt even care about them in the first place, at least as far as I can tell? I dont think its respectful to manipulate people.

Republicans will have to choose between Donald Trump and their country at some point. One choice will ruin the party. You can only keep up a facade for so long.

Trump will keep pushing boundaries. He will probably do worse things, as he certainly doesnt seem to be on a trajectory of becoming more ethical. It will be hard to defend him in a reasonable manner that doesnt make it look like you favor him or your party over the nation and its rules of law.
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posted on Oct, 7 2019 @ 09:12 AM
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originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: Boadicea

Don't ruin my little fantasy of them actually taking a vote and going forward.

It would be... epic.



Oh, they dont have a choice about it. Trump is the one who initiated his own impeachment through his own actions. Democrats were holding off under Pelosi until it became obvious there was no other choice. So youll get your show, at least.
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posted on Oct, 7 2019 @ 09:43 AM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Arnie123



PROVIDE LINK OF HOUSE VOTE ON A FORMAL IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY


PROVIDE A LINK TO THE LAW STATING THIS IS A NECESSARY LEGAL STEP




Trump doesn't take a paycheck


Yes he does. It would be a violation of the Constitution, which he vowed to uphold, if he didn't. What he does with his paycheck is his business.

I'm sorry you can't come to terms with this.


Only the House can impeach the president. If there is to be an inquiry about invoking this most solemn and consequential of the Houses powers, the House must vote to conduct it. It is not for the Speaker and her adjutants to decree that there is an inquiry. If the inquiry is to be legitimate, the House as a whole must decide to conduct it.

I honestly don't feel like fetching something you honestly would turn a blind eye to, you're a hyper partisan user, you don't care, lol, lets be real.

However, it is what it is. Great piece by the National Review.


Members of the House are the representatives of the sovereign the People. In November 2020, the People are scheduled to vote on whether Donald Trump should keep his job. If Democrats, who control the House, truly believe the president has committed impeachable offenses and is so unfit for his duties that we cant wait just 13 months for the sovereign to render that verdict, then they should vote to conduct an impeachment inquiry. If they are afraid to vote on it, then they shouldnt be doing it. And, as their committee chairmen are fond of saying, we should draw a negative inference against them.


Source: www.nationalreview.com...



posted on Oct, 7 2019 @ 09:58 AM
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originally posted by: darkbake
a reply to: Helious

Unfortunately, Trump is the one in the wrong here, and he is trying to make excuses and cover it up, there are a lot of conservative news outlets trying to deflect blame, as well.[/post]
Unfortunately your opinion of the issue is more along the lines of cognitive dissonance, as any logical and educated individual can clearly see that liberal media is completely dishonest and is nothing more than propaganda outlets. With over 90% of negative liberal media coverage, people saw through the crap. Low information users seemingly consume it, ignoring reality, so be it, you do you.


[post]What he just did in a tweet a minute ago is accuse Pelosi of treason. So he is willing to retaliate against people who criticize him, which is very unethical. He does not have a constitutional right to interfere with an impeachment process.[/post]...conversely being attack by her, the squad and the entire Dem psrty? Did you honeslty think President Trump would sit there and let that slide? Who do you think you are? What is unethical is the House dems abusing their constitutional duties and using their positions as a Campaigm ad, care to cite a link when they held a vote on an impeachment inquiry? 'Cause an appearence on TV doesn't cut it, you're in the wrong here son.


[post]you guys will have to eventually decide if Trump is worth keeping around, he could very easily take the Republican Party down with him and does not seem opposed to destroying the nations stability to feed his own ego. More than likely, Trump would turn on any one of you if it suited his own interests.

We're fine, it's you that needs to take a hard look in the mirror, stop falling for fake news and wake up.
The Democrat party is failing pretty hard, in debt, no candidates worth a crap and literally using their entire processess on Trump, ignoring their voters.
Meanwhile, the GOP is at a surplus if cash, dominating small donors, in fact, pulling in upwards of 20 million since Pelosis fake impeachment call.
Ironically, it's your ego that won't accept the fact that you've been duped by fake news. Sucks, but whatever dude.



posted on Oct, 7 2019 @ 10:05 AM
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originally posted by: JustJohnny
a reply to: Helious

Half truths?!?!

I guess so...


Trump was accused of colluding with the russians for dirt on Hillary.

When the reality is the exact opposite is what really happened.

Yep - half-truth alright...


Then gets caught red handed doing EXACTLY the same thing with Ukraine and this elections likely candidate.

Except he didn't. He is urging that Ukraine (and China) investigate what happened during the 2016 election.

Biden is toast, and was never a threat to Trump's re-election in 2020.


LMAO?!?!!

Yeppers, that is what those of use living in the real world are doing at you TDS level 6 sufferers.



posted on Oct, 7 2019 @ 10:11 AM
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Damage control, look away! Emails benghazi!



posted on Oct, 7 2019 @ 10:23 AM
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a reply to: Arnie123

That's an opinion piece. You haven't/can't cite the law that requires the House to vote on committee inquiries, only on how the House must vote on the actual Articles of Impeachment.



posted on Oct, 7 2019 @ 10:36 AM
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a reply to: Arnie123

You appear deeply ignorant of the constitution.

The house is not required to vote to begin impeachment proceedings.

How they conduct impeachment proceedings is entirely the purview of the House of Representatives.

Ironically in the past votes have been held for political messaging purposes or "Theater" as you put it.

Your opinions and false claims do not change the constitution.




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