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Explain How and Why the Universe Exists

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posted on Oct, 6 2019 @ 04:39 AM
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a reply to: Raggedyman
What is happening is happening.... the assumption is that there is some thing separate to/from what is happening.

This that is.... is God!!!
There is nothing other.


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posted on Oct, 6 2019 @ 07:12 AM
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a reply to: Raggedyman

I don't understand any commandments mate.

Want me to listen or do something probably best to ask nicely.

Just like most people, if you tell me i cannot do something im apt to wonder why?

Especially so when the entity/person/book attempting to tell me what to do and how to think can do so can do whatever the hell he wants, display hypocrisy in spades, under pain of torture for eternity no less in the next life, should we choose to think for ourselves.

I went to Sunday school, and i read the Bible when i was a lad, that's the extent of my theology studies.

I comment on plenty of subjects and topics here on ATS, did not ken i had to be a priest to do so.

I'm glad you're fascinated by me all the same, as long as it's nothing weird.
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posted on Oct, 6 2019 @ 08:24 AM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Raggedyman

I don't understand any commandments mate.

Want me to listen or do something probably best to ask nicely.

Just like most people, if you tell me i cannot do something im apt to wonder why?

Especially so when the entity/person/book attempting to tell me what to do and how to think can do so can do whatever the hell he wants, display hypocrisy in spades, under pain of torture for eternity no less in the next life, should we choose to think for ourselves.

I went to Sunday school, and i read the Bible when i was a lad, that's the extent of my theology studies.

I comment on plenty of subjects and topics here on ATS, did not ken i had to be a priest to do so.

I'm glad you're fascinated by me all the same, as long as it's nothing weird.
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Fascinated, hardly, you are just another person who thinks they know something, just like most of all the others here

You went to Sunday school and read the bible, wow, cheerio then
You are clearly a theologian, write a book, pretend you understand or don’t pretend you understand and you won’t have to put up with my reactions

Now, do whatever you want or don’t, it’s not my business, just commented on your ignorance not your inactions
The bible was written to and for Christians, you are not one, so stop moaning like it was written for you. It has nothing in it for you, why moan about it.

Free will, your choice, no one is forcing you or should



posted on Oct, 6 2019 @ 08:28 AM
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Hindus say Vishnu is dreaming this universe.

I say YHWH opened his eyes and that was the big bang.

Before that he was sleeping or resting.



posted on Oct, 6 2019 @ 08:41 AM
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a reply to: Raggedyman

Well, you said it mate not me.


You don't have free will in the way the Bible suggests as neuroscience has clearly proven.

Not much free in this verse Raggedyman.



posted on Oct, 6 2019 @ 08:43 AM
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originally posted by: AyinSof
Hindus say Vishnu is dreaming this universe.

I say YHWH opened his eyes and that was the big bang.

Before that he was sleeping or resting.


Father, Son and Spirit
God is a trinity, they are community, Judeo Christianity is not Hinduism
Creation was not one instant



posted on Oct, 6 2019 @ 08:47 AM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Raggedyman

Well, you said it mate not me.


You don't have free will in the way the Bible suggests as neuroscience has clearly proven.

Not much free in this verse Raggedyman.


Well I don’t fully understand Andy, your Sunday school and bible reading must have been exceptional

Neuroscience has proven nothing and many Christians don’t believe in freewill

I don’t think I will accept your beliefs in relation to faith or science,
I am guessing your pre school teacher educated you on science and you are repeating that at me going by your previous posts
Ta, but nah



posted on Oct, 6 2019 @ 08:47 AM
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a reply to: AyinSof

So where were his eyes before opening? Where was he resting?

Anyhoo, in the beginning, was there not the word?

And here was me thinking sound required a medium to propagate.


As to the Hindus, well they subscribe to many Gods, i can go with that over one lonely old Man in the sky with a massive inferiority complex towards his apparent choose creation.



posted on Oct, 6 2019 @ 08:49 AM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: AyinSof

So where were his eyes before opening? Where was he resting?

Anyhoo, in the beginning, was there not the word?

And here was me thinking sound required a medium to propagate.


As to the Hindus, well they subscribe to many Gods, i can go with that over one lonely old Man in the sky with a massive inferiority complex towards his apparent choose creation.


You were not listening in Sunday school either were you Andy, the “word” was a noun not a verb



posted on Oct, 6 2019 @ 08:50 AM
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What is there prior to the word?
No thing!!!

There still is no thing...... words make believe things.



posted on Oct, 6 2019 @ 08:52 AM
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a reply to: Raggedyman

Exceptionally boring.

Think the likes of Benjamin Libet might disagree with you there.

Nero science has certainly proven more than the Bible ever has.

I was christened a Protestant mate, your right however in your assumption i don't have a clue what comes next.

But if its St peter and the big pearly gates ile be rather surprised, or the other dude for that matter.

Go by whatever you wish after all you are gullible enough to entertain the Bible.

Ile take science until God tells me differently, and to be honest hes rather quite on the matter.



posted on Oct, 6 2019 @ 08:55 AM
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a reply to: Itisnowagain

A single distinct meaningful element of speech or writing hardly donates belief.

What you are after is proof that remains to be seen.

There are lots of things Itisnowagain, you being one of them, else i don't exist and you are talking to yourself.

But we have done this dance before, its not Itisnowagain, its Sunday.



posted on Oct, 6 2019 @ 08:56 AM
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There is only what appears to be happening.



posted on Oct, 6 2019 @ 08:57 AM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: AyinSof

So where were his eyes before opening? Where was he resting?

Anyhoo, in the beginning, was there not the word?



Apparently he existed as God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit according to trinitarians, eternally.

And that word was Om or Kun.



posted on Oct, 6 2019 @ 08:59 AM
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In the beginning there was nothing...... is God nothing??



posted on Oct, 6 2019 @ 08:59 AM
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originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: AyinSof
Hindus say Vishnu is dreaming this universe.

I say YHWH opened his eyes and that was the big bang.

Before that he was sleeping or resting.


Father, Son and Spirit
God is a trinity, they are community, Judeo Christianity is not Hinduism
Creation was not one instant



Have you heard of a new Christian doctrine called Quadrinity?

Holy Quadrinity

Godhead consists of

1) Father
2) Mother
3) Son
4) Holy Spirit

because Trinity is not complete. The Godhead is not complete without Holy Mother Virgin Mary Goddess.

God has four parts

March 08, 2018

"Praise my name! Witness, bathed in the glory of my countenance! Praise my name!"

—YHVH, Shin Megami Tensei II

The tetragrammaton, יהוה‬ in Hebrew and YHWH in Latin script, is the four-letter biblical name of the God of Israel. The books of the Torah and the rest of the Hebrew Bible contain this Hebrew name.

YHVH is the most common transliteration of the Hebrew name of God. The name itself is a reference to the Tetragrammaton, which represents the four letters of the name of God: Yod, Heh, Vav, Heh (or simply "YHVH"). Each of the letters corresponds to a world and a soul and stands for the four basic stages of the process of creation. The name is derived from the Hebrew word "היה" ("to be"), modified into a variant form with a masculine prefix. Its meaning and implications have been a source of contemplation and debate for thousands of years, which still continues today. By Hebrew tradition, it is not to be pronounced aloud, and is typically substituted with "Adonai" ("my Lord") in prayers. In speech, Hashem ("the name") is used in its place.

Yod: Father (God - Male)

Heh: Mother (Goddess Mary - Female)

Vay: Son (Jesus Christ - Male)

Heh: Holy Spirit (Female Spirit of the Universe)

Trinity is pagan. Quadrinity is the truth. The corrected Christian doctrine of the Quadrinity holds that God is four consubstantial persons or hypostases—the Father, the Mother, the Son, and the Holy Spirit—as "one God in four Divine Persons"



posted on Oct, 6 2019 @ 09:00 AM
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Thingness is a belief!

There is no separation.



posted on Oct, 6 2019 @ 09:02 AM
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Wait, what?
You were christened a proddy?
Then moan the bible tells you what to do like you still think you are a proddy?
But you don’t believe in the bible

Are you looking to justify something to me, what why?
Or yourself?

What is in your head?

And thanks Andy, I will do as I wish, your comments are erratic and boarder on childish confusion, maybe make a statement on global warming or something

Simply, I am suggesting you understand Christianity before pretending you do, talking nonsense isn’t a great reflection on your intelligence

Sunday school, well it’s not much more than your abc’s for children

Thanks but nah, not fascinated at all, think you are a little foolish pretending to know Christianity and then admit you don’t and still pretend you do, it’s not logical

Walk on, for your sake
It can’t end well for you



posted on Oct, 6 2019 @ 09:03 AM
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a reply to: Itisnowagain

Yadda yadda yadda, nothing is separate.

Mince, mince, mince, there is only the now.

Aye in your own nut maybe, as to the rest of us we all try and do our own thing.

For all intents and purpose what appears to be happening, is happening.

No convincing you all the same, so please feel free to rinse and repeat, as you will anyhoo. x



posted on Oct, 6 2019 @ 09:09 AM
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I was indeed christened a proddy Brighton Derry and all.

I'm not moaning just saying its all mince.

Justify? The only thing i try and Justify is my taxes. LoL

I think you may find it's your bible that's full of childish confusion.

But that's what you lot do when someone disagrees with the crap you entertain in an attempt to undermine their free thought.

Your the one who entertains childish notions mate, not me.

As to ending well, who the hell does it end well for, death is seldom pretty Raggedyman no matter what fictional books suggest?

Ile walk on when you start jogging on. x
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