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Get ready...they are coming for your Constitution next!

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posted on Oct, 6 2019 @ 05:00 PM
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a reply to: dfnj2015 Thats funny cause it sure appears Hillary and Bill are!




posted on Oct, 6 2019 @ 05:22 PM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: Wardaddy454

The propaganda is working. The Democrats have you guys wrapped around their finger. They can get you to think anything they want, all they have to do is Tweet something divisive and you guys eat it up.

Same goes for CNN. Plenty of hate to go around both sides. Meanwhile those in power continue manipulating people all the way to the bank.


Man I hate to break it too you, but we're gonna be divided regardless. Religious or Atheist, political topics like taxation, and on and on.

You just sit back and keep hoping the Vulcans will pop in and make first contact.



posted on Oct, 6 2019 @ 05:30 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: madmac5150


This is relevant, over and over again...

...especially, here in "flyover" country...


Trump doesn't even know you exist.




I'll never understand why you people think that's such a clever comeback.

If that's the case, you have nothing to worry about.


But surely, 'they' are after Trump for the the things he has done. Who is 'out to get' the general public?

The whole propaganda is based upon the absurdly fearful notion that there are some unnamed people proposing to attack the US citizenry, probably the best defended group of people on the planet. Yes, you have your enemies, but Trump isn't any defense against them.

In fact. with his attempts to negate several Constitutional rights like birthright citizenry (guaranteed by the 14th Amendment) and acts targeting the Muslim community contrary to the free exercise of religion guaranteed by the 1st Amendment, the prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment guaranteed under the 8th Amendment and the equal protection of laws guaranteed by 14th Amendment. Not to mention his repeated attempts to overturn the separation of powers through Presidential overreach, makes Trump himself probably the biggest threat to American citizens that the US has faced in a long time.


LOL

Yeaaaah, I'm gonna trust the constitutional scholars on that one. Not you.



posted on Oct, 6 2019 @ 06:04 PM
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a reply to: chr0naut

constitution.laws.com...

There you go. 6th amendment.



posted on Oct, 6 2019 @ 06:26 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: madmac5150


This is relevant, over and over again...

...especially, here in "flyover" country...


Trump doesn't even know you exist.




I'll never understand why you people think that's such a clever comeback.

If that's the case, you have nothing to worry about.


But surely, 'they' are after Trump for the the things he has done. Who is 'out to get' the general public?

The whole propaganda is based upon the absurdly fearful notion that there are some unnamed people proposing to attack the US citizenry, probably the best defended group of people on the planet. Yes, you have your enemies, but Trump isn't any defense against them.

In fact. with his attempts to negate several Constitutional rights like birthright citizenry (guaranteed by the 14th Amendment) and acts targeting the Muslim community contrary to the free exercise of religion guaranteed by the 1st Amendment, the prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment guaranteed under the 8th Amendment and the equal protection of laws guaranteed by 14th Amendment. Not to mention his repeated attempts to overturn the separation of powers through Presidential overreach, makes Trump himself probably the biggest threat to American citizens that the US has faced in a long time.


Yet here the left is stating they WILL come.for our guns and want to shred the constitution and want to get rid of the electoral college....

How dense are you? They are literally saying these things and you can either read them or watch them say it word for word.

It is like you are a pathological believer, if that is even a real thing.

It is literally some sort of mental disorder.

You are also misinterpreting the amendments.....14th was for slaves....not folks jumping the border just to have a baby here.
edit on 10/6/19 by Vasa Croe because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 6 2019 @ 06:28 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: RudeMarine

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Vasa Croe

This was a quote from the Civil Rights lawyer and Representative who delivered the opening statement in the Impeachment of President Nixon. This quote was from that speech which is regarded as one of the best speeches of the 20th Century.

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Its that Hillary brings it up for this obvious fraud and coup against Trump, that she has been running since before he was elected that pissed everyone off.

Hillary should have been in jail for life ten years ago let alone still free to post crap on Twitter today.


No, it is for something that trump did. It isn't a fraud.

Secondly, I suggest that you look up the meaning of the word "coup".



As far as being locked up 10 years ago: Legal affairs of Donald Trump, 2000-2009 From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



This all begs the question WHO ARE YOU, and does it matter who you are?

and the next one

You have proven repeatedly to know little that is related to the truth in any field related to these topics.

THEREFORE:

Why should we care what you think on that now that you have made your case and we have found it totally lame?





edit on 6-10-2019 by Justoneman because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 6 2019 @ 07:57 PM
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I've been hearing "They're going to trash the Constitution!!!!" my whole life.

For the most part, most people on either side of the fence ignore the claims outright. A late friend of mine, a very, very R lady if ever there was one, called that Constitution Doomsdayer line "Chicken Little Syndrome."

My god did she nail the name or what.



posted on Oct, 6 2019 @ 08:18 PM
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a reply to: Wardaddy454

So you admit that Trump isn't the answer and that things will probably never get better? Glad to hear some honesty. 😄



posted on Oct, 6 2019 @ 08:53 PM
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originally posted by: Nyiah
I've been hearing "They're going to trash the Constitution!!!!" my whole life.

For the most part, most people on either side of the fence ignore the claims outright. A late friend of mine, a very, very R lady if ever there was one, called that Constitution Doomsdayer line "Chicken Little Syndrome."

My god did she nail the name or what.


Are you kidding? So your friend has seen a former Presidential candidate publicly call for the shredding of the constitution if her interpretation didnt come true, a current Presidential candidate say multiple times they will take away guns as mandate, another current Presidential candidate that used a family folktale to advance her career, and finally another Presidential candidate that has a cokehead son that.....meh.....you get the point.



posted on Oct, 6 2019 @ 08:57 PM
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originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: madmac5150


This is relevant, over and over again...

...especially, here in "flyover" country...


Trump doesn't even know you exist.




I'll never understand why you people think that's such a clever comeback.

If that's the case, you have nothing to worry about.


But surely, 'they' are after Trump for the the things he has done. Who is 'out to get' the general public?

The whole propaganda is based upon the absurdly fearful notion that there are some unnamed people proposing to attack the US citizenry, probably the best defended group of people on the planet. Yes, you have your enemies, but Trump isn't any defense against them.

In fact. with his attempts to negate several Constitutional rights like birthright citizenry (guaranteed by the 14th Amendment) and acts targeting the Muslim community contrary to the free exercise of religion guaranteed by the 1st Amendment, the prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment guaranteed under the 8th Amendment and the equal protection of laws guaranteed by 14th Amendment. Not to mention his repeated attempts to overturn the separation of powers through Presidential overreach, makes Trump himself probably the biggest threat to American citizens that the US has faced in a long time.


LOL

Yeaaaah, I'm gonna trust the constitutional scholars on that one. Not you.


Indeed:

It’s Unconstitutional - Slate

Federal Appeals Court Rules Trump Can Be Sued for Unconstitutional Profiteering - Truthout

Trump blocking Twitter critics is unconstitutional, court decides - The Verge

2 Federal Judges Rule Against Trump’s Latest Travel Ban - The New York Times

DONALD TRUMP: A ONE-MAN CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS - ACLU

Federal judge rules against Trump's crackdown on ‘sanctuary cities’ - The Guardian

Trump vs. the Constitution: A Guide - Politico Magazine

Trump’s false claim that stop and frisk in NYC wasn’t ruled unconstitutional - The Washington Post

There are others but I'm trying to only list the separate issues/times that Trump has been ruled unconstitutional and there is much in the press that overlaps.

edit on 6/10/2019 by chr0naut because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 6 2019 @ 08:59 PM
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Get ready...they are coming for your Constitution next!


From the people who claim the Constitutional process of impeachment is a "coup."

Yes, those people are coming after the US Constitution.



posted on Oct, 6 2019 @ 08:59 PM
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originally posted by: Vasa Croe
Looks like Hillary is calling for the Constitution to be shredded. This is pretty unbelievable. This may be the clearest message of the left wanting to destroy what the US stands for. We have already heard they are going to take away the 2nd, we have already heard the cries of doing away with the electoral college, and now we can add just shredding the whole constitution to the mix.



twitter.com...


You mean "our" constitution, right?

And HRC is not suggesting the constitution be shredded, just the opposite.

To not impeach is to treat the Constitution as a meaningless document.

Not sure if you are just not bright enough to catch that or if you are just aiming for a dishonest spin.

Either way, Barbara Jordan's full speech during the Nixon Impeachment Inquiry.

watergate.info...



posted on Oct, 6 2019 @ 09:03 PM
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originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: chr0naut

constitution.laws.com...

There you go. 6th amendment.


Actually, that is a commentary on the 6th.

This is the text of the 6th Amendment (Please highlight the part where it speaks of presumption of innocence and post back):

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.



posted on Oct, 6 2019 @ 09:15 PM
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a reply to: Justoneman

Ok use your second amendment to fight off commies.



posted on Oct, 6 2019 @ 09:16 PM
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originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: madmac5150


This is relevant, over and over again...

...especially, here in "flyover" country...


Trump doesn't even know you exist.




I'll never understand why you people think that's such a clever comeback.

If that's the case, you have nothing to worry about.


But surely, 'they' are after Trump for the the things he has done. Who is 'out to get' the general public?

The whole propaganda is based upon the absurdly fearful notion that there are some unnamed people proposing to attack the US citizenry, probably the best defended group of people on the planet. Yes, you have your enemies, but Trump isn't any defense against them.

In fact. with his attempts to negate several Constitutional rights like birthright citizenry (guaranteed by the 14th Amendment) and acts targeting the Muslim community contrary to the free exercise of religion guaranteed by the 1st Amendment, the prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment guaranteed under the 8th Amendment and the equal protection of laws guaranteed by 14th Amendment. Not to mention his repeated attempts to overturn the separation of powers through Presidential overreach, makes Trump himself probably the biggest threat to American citizens that the US has faced in a long time.


Yet here


Where exactly?


the left is stating they WILL come.for our guns and want to shred the constitution and want to get rid of the electoral college....

How dense are you? They are literally saying these things and you can either read them or watch them say it word for word.

It is like you are a pathological believer, if that is even a real thing.

It is literally some sort of mental disorder.

You are also misinterpreting the amendments.....14th was for slaves....not folks jumping the border just to have a baby here.


Where does it say that the 14th is for slaves?

.. and think about that, if you suggest that slaves are citizens according to the 14th, it can also be applied that citizens can be enslaved.

Citizens are free under the 1st amendment, so then slaves would be free, which pretty much makes the Constitution self contradicting meaningless nonsense.

So, clearly, no-one in their right mind could say that the 14th is only for slaves.

Since it clearly and reasonably describes all born in the US and has no implicit and unrecorded limitation, it covers those born to undocumented parents, who are, by this clause, legal US citizens.



posted on Oct, 6 2019 @ 09:20 PM
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a reply to: Extorris

Guessing you haven't read the entire thread. I am well aware of the original speech.

Hillary's quoting of it coupled with the reason she is saying it is very different from the original meaning.

Enjoy the next 5 years.



posted on Oct, 6 2019 @ 09:25 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: madmac5150


This is relevant, over and over again...

...especially, here in "flyover" country...


Trump doesn't even know you exist.




I'll never understand why you people think that's such a clever comeback.

If that's the case, you have nothing to worry about.


But surely, 'they' are after Trump for the the things he has done. Who is 'out to get' the general public?

The whole propaganda is based upon the absurdly fearful notion that there are some unnamed people proposing to attack the US citizenry, probably the best defended group of people on the planet. Yes, you have your enemies, but Trump isn't any defense against them.

In fact. with his attempts to negate several Constitutional rights like birthright citizenry (guaranteed by the 14th Amendment) and acts targeting the Muslim community contrary to the free exercise of religion guaranteed by the 1st Amendment, the prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment guaranteed under the 8th Amendment and the equal protection of laws guaranteed by 14th Amendment. Not to mention his repeated attempts to overturn the separation of powers through Presidential overreach, makes Trump himself probably the biggest threat to American citizens that the US has faced in a long time.


Yet here


Where exactly?


the left is stating they WILL come.for our guns and want to shred the constitution and want to get rid of the electoral college....

How dense are you? They are literally saying these things and you can either read them or watch them say it word for word.

It is like you are a pathological believer, if that is even a real thing.

It is literally some sort of mental disorder.

You are also misinterpreting the amendments.....14th was for slaves....not folks jumping the border just to have a baby here.


Where does it say that the 14th is for slaves?

.. and think about that, if you suggest that slaves are citizens according to the 14th, it can also be applied that citizens can be enslaved.

Citizens are free under the 1st amendment, so then slaves would be free, which pretty much makes the Constitution self contradicting meaningless nonsense.

So, clearly, no-one in their right mind could say that the 14th is only for slaves.

Since it clearly and reasonably describes all born in the US and has no implicit and unrecorded limitation, it covers those born to undocumented parents, who are, by this clause, legal US citizens.



Are you kidding? Do you not know the entire reason the 14th amendment was adopted?

Wow...what do they teach you kids these days? What...you think it was made during the Obama administration or something?

Seriously...come back when you know some history.



posted on Oct, 6 2019 @ 09:27 PM
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originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: RudeMarine

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Vasa Croe

This was a quote from the Civil Rights lawyer and Representative who delivered the opening statement in the Impeachment of President Nixon. This quote was from that speech which is regarded as one of the best speeches of the 20th Century.

[/url].


Its that Hillary brings it up for this obvious fraud and coup against Trump, that she has been running since before he was elected that pissed everyone off.

Hillary should have been in jail for life ten years ago let alone still free to post crap on Twitter today.


No, it is for something that trump did. It isn't a fraud.

Secondly, I suggest that you look up the meaning of the word "coup".



As far as being locked up 10 years ago: Legal affairs of Donald Trump, 2000-2009 From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



This all begs the question WHO ARE YOU, and does it matter who you are?

and the next one

You have proven repeatedly to know little that is related to the truth in any field related to these topics.

THEREFORE:

Why should we care what you think on that now that you have made your case and we have found it totally lame?


I am of no importance. Just a nagging voice of disquiet and conscience.

Your last sentence also makes me think of the court case in Idiocracy. LOL.




posted on Oct, 6 2019 @ 09:37 PM
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originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: madmac5150


This is relevant, over and over again...

...especially, here in "flyover" country...


Trump doesn't even know you exist.




I'll never understand why you people think that's such a clever comeback.

If that's the case, you have nothing to worry about.


But surely, 'they' are after Trump for the the things he has done. Who is 'out to get' the general public?

The whole propaganda is based upon the absurdly fearful notion that there are some unnamed people proposing to attack the US citizenry, probably the best defended group of people on the planet. Yes, you have your enemies, but Trump isn't any defense against them.

In fact. with his attempts to negate several Constitutional rights like birthright citizenry (guaranteed by the 14th Amendment) and acts targeting the Muslim community contrary to the free exercise of religion guaranteed by the 1st Amendment, the prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment guaranteed under the 8th Amendment and the equal protection of laws guaranteed by 14th Amendment. Not to mention his repeated attempts to overturn the separation of powers through Presidential overreach, makes Trump himself probably the biggest threat to American citizens that the US has faced in a long time.


Yet here


Where exactly?


the left is stating they WILL come.for our guns and want to shred the constitution and want to get rid of the electoral college....

How dense are you? They are literally saying these things and you can either read them or watch them say it word for word.

It is like you are a pathological believer, if that is even a real thing.

It is literally some sort of mental disorder.

You are also misinterpreting the amendments.....14th was for slaves....not folks jumping the border just to have a baby here.


Where does it say that the 14th is for slaves?

.. and think about that, if you suggest that slaves are citizens according to the 14th, it can also be applied that citizens can be enslaved.

Citizens are free under the 1st amendment, so then slaves would be free, which pretty much makes the Constitution self contradicting meaningless nonsense.

So, clearly, no-one in their right mind could say that the 14th is only for slaves.

Since it clearly and reasonably describes all born in the US and has no implicit and unrecorded limitation, it covers those born to undocumented parents, who are, by this clause, legal US citizens.



Are you kidding? Do you not know the entire reason the 14th amendment was adopted?

Wow...what do they teach you kids these days? What...you think it was made during the Obama administration or something?

Seriously...come back when you know some history.


Slavery was abolished, for the entire United States, on December 6, 1865, as recorded in the 13th Amendment.

The 14th Amendment was framed and added to the Constitution on July 9, 1868. Three years after the abolition of slavery. Supposedly to cover the citizen status of slaves, of whom, by that time, there were none.

Do you see where my argument might be heading?

edit on 6/10/2019 by chr0naut because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 6 2019 @ 09:42 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: madmac5150


This is relevant, over and over again...

...especially, here in "flyover" country...


Trump doesn't even know you exist.




I'll never understand why you people think that's such a clever comeback.

If that's the case, you have nothing to worry about.


But surely, 'they' are after Trump for the the things he has done. Who is 'out to get' the general public?

The whole propaganda is based upon the absurdly fearful notion that there are some unnamed people proposing to attack the US citizenry, probably the best defended group of people on the planet. Yes, you have your enemies, but Trump isn't any defense against them.

In fact. with his attempts to negate several Constitutional rights like birthright citizenry (guaranteed by the 14th Amendment) and acts targeting the Muslim community contrary to the free exercise of religion guaranteed by the 1st Amendment, the prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment guaranteed under the 8th Amendment and the equal protection of laws guaranteed by 14th Amendment. Not to mention his repeated attempts to overturn the separation of powers through Presidential overreach, makes Trump himself probably the biggest threat to American citizens that the US has faced in a long time.


Yet here


Where exactly?


the left is stating they WILL come.for our guns and want to shred the constitution and want to get rid of the electoral college....

How dense are you? They are literally saying these things and you can either read them or watch them say it word for word.

It is like you are a pathological believer, if that is even a real thing.

It is literally some sort of mental disorder.

You are also misinterpreting the amendments.....14th was for slaves....not folks jumping the border just to have a baby here.


Where does it say that the 14th is for slaves?

.. and think about that, if you suggest that slaves are citizens according to the 14th, it can also be applied that citizens can be enslaved.

Citizens are free under the 1st amendment, so then slaves would be free, which pretty much makes the Constitution self contradicting meaningless nonsense.

So, clearly, no-one in their right mind could say that the 14th is only for slaves.

Since it clearly and reasonably describes all born in the US and has no implicit and unrecorded limitation, it covers those born to undocumented parents, who are, by this clause, legal US citizens.



Are you kidding? Do you not know the entire reason the 14th amendment was adopted?

Wow...what do they teach you kids these days? What...you think it was made during the Obama administration or something?

Seriously...come back when you know some history.


Slavery was abolished, for the entire United States, on December 6, 1865, as recorded in the 13th Amendment.

The 14th Amendment was framed and added to the Constitution on July 9, 1868. Three years after the abolition of slavery.

Do you see where my argument is heading?


Back to google to look up answers?



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