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posted on Oct, 3 2019 @ 08:09 PM
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I know we all feel like the other side is nuts and JUST CANT SEE what is going on. I mean I swear the left is crazy, but they think I am crazy.

WTF is going on?

Is this some kind of intelligence community gaslighting campaign or something? I mean I feel its pretty simple but it seems its not.




posted on Oct, 3 2019 @ 08:14 PM
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Its simple, the tiny minority you see derping on the internet is just that, a tiny minority.

You go outside , you go to work, you shop and you see nobody gives a # about any of this partisan BS you see on the internet.



posted on Oct, 3 2019 @ 08:14 PM
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originally posted by: sprockets2000
Is this some kind of intelligence community gaslighting campaign or something?.


Absolutely.



posted on Oct, 3 2019 @ 08:16 PM
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It's tribalism..reality is..both sides are nuts in different ways.



posted on Oct, 3 2019 @ 08:19 PM
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originally posted by: sprockets2000
I know we all feel like the other side is nuts and JUST CANT SEE what is going on. I mean I swear the left is crazy, but they think I am crazy.

WTF is going on?

Is this some kind of intelligence community gaslighting campaign or something? I mean I feel its pretty simple but it seems its not.


The left has never gotten over the Queen not getting her crown.

The combination of nonstop 24/7 negative reporting about Trump from the PR wing of the DNC (the media) and a Department of Education that has been dumbing down and indoctrinating our citizenry to feel comfortable in their shackles has brought us to this point.

There is no longer any rational thought from the left, no critical thinking, no individual fact checking... just a helpless acceptance of the BS that is poured down their throats every day in an effort to enslave them.

And they vote for it.

They were SO close to a never-ending Progressive governmental control that they could taste it.... hell, they were celebrating it.

Then there are the people who would like less governmental control and more control over their own lives and reject the concept of an overpowering tyrannical rule.

Welcome to WWZ.




posted on Oct, 3 2019 @ 08:21 PM
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I tend to side with the US Constitution.

That’s my side.



posted on Oct, 3 2019 @ 08:28 PM
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Two governors (Ohio / Florida) said earlier this week that none of the citizens of their respective states are talking about the "impeachment thing", or much else the MSM is captivated by at the moment.



posted on Oct, 3 2019 @ 08:33 PM
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originally posted by: sprockets2000
I know we all feel like the other side is nuts and JUST CANT SEE what is going on. I mean I swear the left is crazy, but they think I am crazy.

WTF is going on?

Is this some kind of intelligence community gaslighting campaign or something? I mean I feel its pretty simple but it seems its not.


You should watch some Scott Adams.

Basically this is the way the human mind really works. We ignore facts when necessary to maintain our point of view. Reality is we form opinions far more based on emotions than facts.

There are a few things you can do though to know if you are really on the right side. If one side is sure something happened and the other side thinks that is crazy, 9 times out of 10 the side that thinks nothing happened is right.



posted on Oct, 3 2019 @ 08:41 PM
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Could it be as simple as the nature of ''belief systems''? I have read about ''memes'' as I suppose that some have by now. Generally they are taken trivially as if they are nothing more than ''fads'', fads of thoughts. But they can be much more.

Memes are thought to be thought processes that do not take conscious thought to run through a brain. Once in to a brain they just run themsleves, on and on and on. Memes can take root within a brain and become meme complexes, groupings of memes that rely upon one another giving validation to the whole complex.

Here is a quick section from wiki,a summed up version of what I have read elsewhere.



Much of the study of memes focuses on groups of memes called meme complexes, or memeplexes. Like the gene complexes found in biology, memeplexes are groups of memes that are often found present in the same individual. Applying the theory of Universal Darwinism, memeplexes group together because memes will copy themselves more successfully when they are "teamed up". Examples include sets of memes like singing and guitar playing, or the Christmas tree and Christmas dinner.


To me, an important sentence in the next quote is ''memes and memeplexes do not have to be true or useful to replicate''



Unlike inherited gene complexes, memeplexes do not have to benefit the individuals expressing them in order to replicate[citation needed]. Rather, because memes and memeplexes replicate virally (i.e., by horizontal transmission), they can be beneficial, inconsequential, or pathogenic to their carriers -- memes and memeplexes do not have to be true or useful to replicate.


For my own thinking on the issue you present, the conundrum of both sides saying the same things about the other, I consider another meme concept, what I like to call ''mirrormemes''. In the case you have brought up I think it possible that the memeplexes infiltrate our consciousness and leach onto already established and opposing political leanings and blow them all out of proportion. And the real terrible thing here is that everybody thinks they are thinking for themselves.



posted on Oct, 3 2019 @ 08:45 PM
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originally posted by: sprockets2000
I know we all feel like the other side is nuts and JUST CANT SEE what is going on. I mean I swear the left is crazy, but they think I am crazy.

WTF is going on?

Is this some kind of intelligence community gaslighting campaign or something? I mean I feel its pretty simple but it seems its not.



You think you're sane and always 'right' and the left is 'dumb' , then you've come to the right safe space.

Browse duty free, revel in the thought that your opinions will prevail...no matter what.
Hyperbole and ad_homs are required. Trump has never said/done anything wrong with the patented ats filter!

Go ahead, click that new thread button. Breathe in, close your eyes, FOX NEWS, breathe out.



posted on Oct, 3 2019 @ 08:48 PM
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Pot, meet kettle....bwhahahah



posted on Oct, 3 2019 @ 08:56 PM
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originally posted by: sprockets2000
I know we all feel like the other side is nuts and JUST CANT SEE what is going on. I mean I swear the left is crazy, but they think I am crazy.

WTF is going on?

Is this some kind of intelligence community gaslighting campaign or something? I mean I feel its pretty simple but it seems its not.


Is there mind control technology?

Would anyone be able to prove it exist??

Who is responsible for the current political and social climate change...in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

Putin?-NOT THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE for it's understood they the RUSSIAN population truly have no say in their government leadership or core.
POTUS Trump?
TPTB?
The political parties representing the US population?

America is being tested as many empires have been in the past. Part of destroying empires is to infect from the core and spread out.
Meaning intentionally place weak links to later watch fall.

This allows for new empire to rise...
Those who take the current political climate change lightly are you prepared to have another empire devour the country you and your loved ones live in as well as your possible future generations

Are you willing to accept the new empire reaching for your controls?...



posted on Oct, 3 2019 @ 09:08 PM
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Is this some kind of intelligence community gaslighting campaign

yes

a reply to: AScrubWhoDied


You go outside , you go to work, you shop and you see nobody gives a # about any of this partisan BS you see on the internet.

Also 100% true
a reply to: Ophiuchus 13



Is there mind control technology?

Yes, it is called magneto-thermal stimmulation, still actively being developed at the University of Buffalo under Arnd Pralle and team. Well the official release anyways. It was no doubt refined by the upper echelon human rulers of the world with their secret scientists in various hidden labs forty years ago.



posted on Oct, 3 2019 @ 09:13 PM
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Is this some kind of intelligence community gaslighting campaign or something?


There isn't a lot of intelligence involved in the gaslighting that's going on. Just an orange, compromised old man standing in front of a TV camera saying anything that he hopes will save his @$$.

To an audience that convinced themselves long ago a serial liar is their only source of truth. Because left side bad.



posted on Oct, 3 2019 @ 09:15 PM
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magneto-thermal stimulation




posted on Oct, 3 2019 @ 09:35 PM
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I already know the outcome

The easily offended

The easily manipulated

Lefty’s lost day one



posted on Oct, 3 2019 @ 10:00 PM
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a reply to: Ophiuchus 13
National Institute of Health gave them another four year grant in 2016-2020 through the NIH BRAIN award . No doubt another grant will be authorized in 2020.

If only scientists had balls, then maybe they would openly tell the world the craziness they are paid to research and develop. Unfortunately, by nature, those who have the discipline to be scientists are themselves going to be very passive-aggressive, non-confrontational pussies.

Specialists are specialists. Their specialty is not to dissent or fight, its to be bookworms and play with very high tech gadgets. Shut your mouth and do what your paid to do never applied more than in science. Well hey, that discipline has brought us the atomic bomb, and everything else we take for granted in the 21st.

And now that I brought this up, I declare this thread, killed.
edit on 10-3-2019 by worldstarcountry because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 3 2019 @ 10:49 PM
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Its a strange phenomenon, like 2 different dimensions. I believe a lot of it is just simple minded people being controlled by narcissists. I believe the Mandela Effect & Deja Vu may be related, as well as, r/k selection theory, nature vs nurture & masculine vs feminine characteristics of people.

Imo, the left has been infected with feminism & they basically act like a bunch of children and/or women who like to be dominated by: Democrat politicians & the Deep State, with their CIA/MSM brainwashing propaganda, also done by celebrity actors/musicians/comedians & idols like the Obamas. Leftists suffer from a combination of Stockholm & Munchausen by proxy syndromes. Stockholm syndrome is a condition which causes hostages (voters) to develop a psychological alliance with their captors (career politicians). Munchausen syndrome by proxy is a condition where a caregiver (career politicians) fabricates, exaggerates, or induces mental or physical problems (separatist groups/LGBT, BLM, La Raza, Muslim Brotherhood, feminists, illegal immigrants, etc.) in those who are in their care, with the primary motive of gaining attention or sympathy from others (more voters). A better term for it is Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS).

Obama's mother was a CIA operative. So is Obama and people like Anderson Cooper, George Clooney & Meghan Markle. Obama signed the NDAA for 2013, which repealed the Smith Mundt Act, reallowing the use of deep state CIA propganda to be used domestically on U.S. citizens.

1) ABC News executive producer Ian Cameron is married to Susan Rice, Obama's National Security Adviser. (Susan Rice is now on the board of directors of Netflix).
2) CBS President David Rhodes is the brother of Ben Rhodes, Obama’s Deputy National Security Adviser for Strategic Communications.
3) ABC News correspondent Claire Shipman is married to former Obama Whitehouse Press Secretary Jay Carney.
4) ABC News and Univision reporter Matthew Jaffe is married to Katie Hogan, Obama’s Deputy Press Secretary.
5) ABC President Ben Sherwood is the brother of Obama’s Special Adviser Elizabeth Sherwood.
6) CNN President Virginia Moseley is married to former Hillary Clinton’s Deputy Secretary Tom Nides.



posted on Oct, 3 2019 @ 11:38 PM
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Gaslighting has been a common political cohesion tool for a long time. It got turned up to high after 9/11 for police state and war profits. Obama ran with it, Trump is trying to turn it back down.

Some in the media are lost, some pushing the gaslighting further and others trying to put out this fire. There is an information war going on with a mountain of corruption at stake.



posted on Oct, 4 2019 @ 02:04 AM
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It's one side throwing a slow rolling 3+ year tantrum over losing an election and having their plans of a fundamentally changed America stymied. Sour grapes, pearl clutching, spoiled brats, etc... all on easy to see display from the Left's chosen leaders.




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