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Trump is Sending Nancy Pelosi a Demand Letter for a Full Vote

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posted on Oct, 3 2019 @ 07:05 PM
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Full vote could fill in some gaps on the Co-conspirator list.




posted on Oct, 3 2019 @ 07:13 PM
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But a full vote does nothing for an impeachment inquiry.

Per the constitution the house already has all the power it needs to compel the executive to hand over docs for oversight. Nor does the constitution give the house extra powers by declaring an impeachment inquiry with a full vote of the house.



posted on Oct, 3 2019 @ 07:15 PM
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a reply to: JustJohnny

There are many who represent Districts which Trump won in States which Trump also won. Those Democrats have already come out on the fence. Some have given in, but have said publically that the decision to "get on board" was made because of extreme pressure from leaders within the party. Those members of the house so far have only agreed to the House impeachment investigation and not a vote to actually impeach just yet. It could well be political suicide for them in their own Districts which lean Trump. Why vote for an impeachment that will end in a Senate trial vote of not guilty ? A bit damned if they do and damned if they dont. Rather pointless to risk their election on basically a publicity stunt.
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posted on Oct, 3 2019 @ 07:18 PM
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originally posted by: Pyle
But a full vote does nothing for an impeachment inquiry.

Per the constitution the house already has all the power it needs to compel the executive to hand over docs for oversight. Nor does the constitution give the house extra powers by declaring an impeachment inquiry with a full vote of the house.


Per the constitution the House has that power, yes.

A sub-committee of the House not so much, since impeachment proceedings require the attention of the full House.

As I've already said, Schiff doesn't even have subpoena power without a full vote of the House.

Perhaps you should get a little more familiar with the Constitution.

We currently do not have Impeachment proceedings going on in the House.

They like to call it that right now to fool the low-information voter though...



ETA... I've been gone for a bit, so can you please link for me the House Intelligence Committee's vote to go forward with an impeachment inquiry?

Thanks in advance...


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posted on Oct, 3 2019 @ 07:25 PM
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a reply to: Pyle

Except that is false under the concept of three coequal branches of government (individual committees are not). The House does have sole power of impeachment, but that is a separate topic.
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posted on Oct, 3 2019 @ 07:25 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

The House cannot formally subpoena anyone or anything without a full vote.

If it was otherwise, then any politician could subpoena anyone they wanted any time they wanted.



posted on Oct, 3 2019 @ 07:34 PM
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originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: JustJohnny
a reply to: jhn7537

For sure!!

I just have NO idea why you think voting yes would EVER hurt a democrat?!? Lol


Since politics appears to be a new thing for you, let me help.

There are approximately 100 Democrats in the House that are up for re-election that represent districts that Trump won.

If Trump's overall approval rating stays above 30% or so (it will) then at least 70% of those Democrats who vote "yes" to actual impeachment proceedings will lose their seats to a Republican this election.

Thus turning the House back to a Republican majority and Nancy loses the gavel.

Nancy had no idea when she started this process that Schiff coached the current rouge CIA spy on his Whistleblower complaint.

Without a full vote of the House for impeachment proceedings, there isn't even an actual impeachment.

Hell, Shiff doesn't even have subpoena power until that happens.

So yes... PLEASE let's get that vote going!



I do appreciate your efforts in getting the vote going. I look forward to the results.

However, in the meantime, your assertion, "actual impeachment proceedings will lose their seats to a Republican this election." I did some research on which states in play for the Congressional seats. Assuming all the Republican seats remain Republican (which is unlikely), then let's just consider the Senate seats in states held by Democrats:

United States Congress elections, 2020

New Hampshire Biden+10

www.realclearpolitics.com...

New Jersey Biden+6
www.realclearpolitics.com...

Virginia Biden+14
www.wvtf.org.../0

Michigan Biden+10
www.realclearpolitics.com...

Minnesota No Poll but unlikely
www.minnpost.com...

Oregon Net Approval -24
morningconsult.com...

Illinois Unlikely since Hillary won by a million votes
en.wikipedia.org...

Alabama You can have Alabama

New Mexico Hillary Won +8
www.nytimes.com...

Of course Republicans have been known to steal elections through voter suppression so anything is possible.

Jim Crow Steals Election in North Carolina’s 9th Congressional District

Facing Suppression, These Voters Are Fighting to Make Their Voices Heard

Generic Congressional Vote


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posted on Oct, 3 2019 @ 07:40 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

I was thinking that the Supreme Court was going to need to intercede, to make Pelosi follow established rules of the House. Especially with something as weighty as impeaching the President of the United States.

And who knows...it still might come to that.

In December 2018...even before being sworn in as Speaker, Pelosi hired an attorney to formally change the rules of the House to exclude Republicans from the Impeachment process, and other things.

Huge! Pelosi changes the rules: theconservativetreehouse.com...


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posted on Oct, 3 2019 @ 07:40 PM
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originally posted by: JustJohnny
a reply to: xuenchen

Lol there has NEVER been a politician more hated by those that lean left than Trump..

Anyone dem who voted no would be committing political suicide..


There is no pro-trump wing of the left lol..


He is threatening them with a good time lol.


There are plenty of House Dems from Republican leaning states so you are wrong as usual little Johnny. Those Dems know how bad impeachment will be for them when they are up for re-election.



posted on Oct, 3 2019 @ 07:43 PM
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There is nothing in the rules that says you have to vote to open an investigation. If there were they would be doing nothing else because these things come up on a regular basis.
Sorry trump, you are wrong once again.

In advance of the formal resolution by the full House, the relevant committee may investigate, subpoena witnesses, and prepare a preliminary report of findings.


en.wikipedia.org...,_and_Congressional_power_to_investigate



posted on Oct, 3 2019 @ 07:44 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen



We already know from some recent hearings that Democrat controlled Committees are limiting Republican participation


examples?



posted on Oct, 3 2019 @ 07:45 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: xuenchen

The House cannot formally subpoena anyone or anything without a full vote.


They absolutely can. Committees and subcommittees have full subpoena power so long as those committees and subcommittees vote on it.



posted on Oct, 3 2019 @ 07:46 PM
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a reply to: jhn7537

They do not have to vote to investigate.
We already know that more than half are in favor of impeachment.

They are not going to stretch this out any further than the president does with court filings.
But they are going to investigate. They have a case already.

once again trump is fluffing his feathers trying to look big.
He does NOT want them to take a vote.



posted on Oct, 3 2019 @ 07:47 PM
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a reply to: Night Star

How has that worked so far?



posted on Oct, 3 2019 @ 07:49 PM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

Who has been authorized the power to subpoena by the House Judiciary Committee, per your wiki source?



posted on Oct, 3 2019 @ 07:49 PM
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originally posted by: links234

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: xuenchen

The House cannot formally subpoena anyone or anything without a full vote.


They absolutely can. Committees and subcommittees have full subpoena power so long as those committees and subcommittees vote on it.


Then at the very least, hold a vote!



posted on Oct, 3 2019 @ 07:50 PM
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a reply to: RazorV66

please. They have it in spades.



posted on Oct, 3 2019 @ 07:51 PM
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AND


Isnt it funny that there is no word about this on the news?

No?

Whats that source, I didnt even bother to look knowing the OP.



posted on Oct, 3 2019 @ 07:53 PM
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a reply to: Lumenari

Here's a real interesting article that supports your way of thinking:

Impeachment is regime suicide

"Trump was no mere conventional Republican who happened to beat Hillary Clinton. He was a completely unconventional Republican who first beat the party’s own ideological standard-bearers during the primaries, in the course of which he often said things that no Republican had said for a generation or more. Trump’s message in the primaries and general election boiled down to: they screwed you."

"The moderate path here is the one that eschews impeachment and instead shows that the elite still has faith in elections. Let the voters decide whether they want to defend the ‘norms’ of the regime, and even if they decide not to — by re-electing Trump — the regime will have lost less credibility than it stands to through a failed attempt at impeachment. Legitimacy is bleeding away from American politics and society, and Trump is a symptom not the cause. The cause is the folly of America’s leadership class as a whole. Electing Trump was the public’s way of impeaching that class."

You may be correct in the result the House goes back to Republican control. But it's not clear if the reason is because the Democrats tried to impeach Trump. I think people just hate the "America’s leadership class as a whole".



posted on Oct, 3 2019 @ 07:55 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy
UPDATE:

It's OK for the various branches of government to ignore the FAKE impeachment inquiry, until it's a REAL impeachment inquiry.

Source: www.cnn.com...



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