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originally posted by: tulsi
aren't about 2/3 of American adults on Welfare?
Welfare income written off may yield taking more than paid.
then there's so many ppl with low income that get a refund more than they paid due to credits, etc.
exclude virtually all of Americans from voting??
originally posted by: LordAhriman
I make a bit over 100k a year, owning 2 small business and working at Walmart. I have 2 kids of my own, and 2 step kids and I work a ridiculous amount of hours. I get back more than I pay every year after write offs and deductions. F you. Every american has the right to vote.
originally posted by: lordcomac
so you live above your means so I can be forced to live below mine- nice. f you too, buddy.
I chose not to have children because I know I can't afford them. maybe I could if I wasn't paying for yours.
That means society breeds rats, doesn't it?
in all seriousness, though, the money system is the problem. government sold us out over a century ago. if they hadn't most of us would have been born to a family that owned something other than debt.
I don't want to be forced to support your bad financial choices- but if you lived next door and didn't have the means to feed your children, I'd share my stores.
I'm not mean, I'm just not stupid either. if you kept not learning I'd get to take your land when you were forced to move west for longer growing seasons.
there's too many needy folks for the number willing to give.
using government to steal from me to give to you isn't the answer. it won't scale forever- sooner or later the takers will turn on each other.
originally posted by: FamCore
generational poverty is a thing,
and so is a corruptible voting model (no I'm not talking about Russian Collusion)
and we have some major socioeconomic AND financial system-pandora's boxes opening up. Sounds like doom porn but I'm feeling like this is the advent of a new "Dark Age" 2.0 - Digital/AI Dark Ages
But I'm sure I'll be wrong ..
but should people who take more taxes than they pay be allowed to vote
originally posted by: lowballer
a reply to: Advantage
Taxes are your money and you believe everyone has an equal say in how it's spent? I'll take you up on that give me $1k. Of course this is a rhetorical request but the system shouldn't be rigged to favor takers. Also my idea isn't dependent on income level but % paid in tax. Rich people generally pay a smaller % of income in tax (if they have a good accountant) than us mundains.
originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: VforVendettea
I agree. The rich blue states donate more taxes to the federal government than they take in. The poor red status enjoy healthy socialism by receiving more money from the federal government than they give to the federal government in taxes.
So it works like this. Each state can only receive 90% of the dollars they citizens of the state pay in taxes the previous year from the federal government. Then the red state free loaders can start paying their fair share.
Map of states that suck more money out than they pay in
Many people in these free loader red states are very much against socialism. It's funny how the people who are most against socialism are the very ones who benefit from it the most.