OP/ED: Bushkrieg: Shock and Awe in America, page 12
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reply posted on 5-9-2006 @ 11:43 PM by grimreaper797
The question of what to do has long past. The answer has been here, and we all see it. Its no long a matter of not knowing what too do, its a matter of being to either complacent, lazy, or lack of drive that has caused us to not act.

We all know what we need to do, but we feel so hopeless that we haven't bothered to do it. I beg you all to disregard your thoughts of whether or not everyone else is doing it too, whether or not it makes a difference, and just do it. Get out there an do what needs to be done. Many conversations have been said that already say what needs to be done. Those words echo throughout our halls, our homes, our jobplaces, without due respect to the actions that should follow the words we speak. Its time for once that we follow through.

Simple steps:
1. talk to every person you can. There is problems in this world, and its your duty to talk about what you feel is the most important ones today. Instead of talking about nascar, or who won on american idol, talk about why you feel this particular topic is such an important problem. Just talk to the person. And do it again and again. Not only will you learn by debating with the person but you will spread the information you recieve everytime.
The flame that burns in our spirits is lit by the spark of words.

2. start to have gatherings. Not based on political parties or any certian view. Just gather and talk. Dont be so quick to act as though the problem you believe is the biggest problem. Any guy with a mouth can talk, it takes an intelligent person to hold a conversation.

3. the people are there now. You are gathered. You can now talk about what problems should be tackled first and why. After that you ask how you can tackle that specific problem. if its a local problem, you can most likely handle it with local solutions. If its a state or federal problem (in this case federal), you need to reach out to other groups. Dont for one minute stop talking because you dont agree with the immediate problem. Compromise. Compromising is another way of saying unity. Any group can say they are united when they all agree with the same mindset. A group is truly united when it compromises. We are all in one group...americans. That group should unite. Unity can only be found by compromising.

4. The numbers will grow and grow. Never be afraid to speak out though. Once united, you are more then just citizens, you are the true american army. You are united thus you have the power. From there, things will fall into place. There will be simply a demand from the people, if its not met, that person/people are thrown out of office.

Then finally the government will serve the people again.

[edit on 5-9-2006 by grimreaper797]


reply posted on 7-9-2006 @ 06:42 AM by khunmoon
I've now read all the posts of this OP/ED and in parts I find them very interesting. Ecspecially ServoHahn turns me on. All this corporate thing does. There soficrow is the expert.

Earlier this summer on Danish television I saw a Canadian/Australian documentary on the subject, Mark Achbar's and Jennifer Abbott's, "The Corporation".
The outline was the entity as an individual. With that outset they analysed the multinational company, using the WHO definitions for a psychopat. It requires six behavorial attitudes to be met. The multinational company fulfilled them all.
And don't forget, the psychopat diagnose is the only psychiatric ailment where the patient does not suffer. Only his surroundings do.

Googling on the subject I find out this observation is from a book: Joel Bakan "The Corporation: The Pathological Pursuit of Profit and Power".

I'm a newcomer to this forum, signed up yesterday, and if this is not the right place to introduce myself, someone please tell.
Anyway allow me to tell that I'm a middleaged Dane spending most of his time (out of economic reasons) in an unpleasent hot humid tropical country where the people are corrupt and the food is horrible. I call it Freakland.
I call it so cause it has a repressive authoritarian rule. It is called a "democracy", though to be electable for their parlament, minimum a bachelor degree is required. Which means only one percent of the population can be elected. Democracy!? hmm.

Anyway because of conditions rangeing from costs of living to sex, a lot of elderly foreingers spend their retirement there. Mostly Germans, Scandinavians, but quit a few Americans as well.

I'm an old hippie, before that I used to be a leftist and in my sprouting youth a red commie. Yes, now it's said.
Many are the times I have fought the police in front of the American Embassy in Copenhagen.
Later on withdrawn from the political scene, we used to say "better LSD than LBJ".

In those days I met the best of friends I ever was to meet, American boys on the run from Uncle Sams war in Vietnam. There were tens of thousands of them in town.
You know, back then Denmark and Sweden were seen not just as socialist, but as half-communist countries. Mostly only by the American administration, the ugly capitalist lackeys, suppressors of the American People. Such were the facts in the days of segregation.
That's why today in the present repressive situation (far more than then) I often wonder, where is the Berkley riots, the Washington marches or the upheavel of Kent State University?
I remember at one incident several million people gathered at the Washington Monument. That's what stopped the Vietnam war. The PEOPLE did it.
Can't you do that again?

Somehow, despite my political orientation, Americana has always had the light of Shangrila to me. From Walt Whitman to Bob Dylan, with Timothy Leary and William Buoroughs in between - not to mention Elvis Presley and Buddy Hollie.
Comes from being a child of WW2, growing up in a world of shortage, we were introduced to a world of abundance, nylon stockings, chewing gum, hearsey bars and camels and chesterfields and - not to forget - American music.
America were not just liberators, they were our saviours.

Therefore I made many good friends and close bonds back then in the sixties in Copenhagen and later on on my travels.
I used to have American friends here in Freakland, cause I prefer their company to Germans (if not rude, so formal) or Swedes (downright boring). Americans are always good for a chat, a drink, a rave or a party.
Sad to say, but since the war occupying Iraq began I had slowly lost them. And it's not because they are some redneck rightwings. Not at all.

continues nxt pst

[edit on 7/9/06 by khunmoon]


reply posted on 7-9-2006 @ 06:52 AM by khunmoon
continued from prvs pst...

Josh is hip, leftwing and smokes, from an old eastcoast family and a longtimer in Freakland. We were talking about the upcoming invasion in the early days of March 03.
- What if they don't find any WMDs, I said.
- Oh they will, they've got envoices and everything, he said.
I tried to explain to him, that Hans Blix allready had blown the Niger papers. But he would - though in noway a bushist - rather believe his government than some Swedish half-commie.

Same with Brian. He's a sound openminded midwestern boy, tall and blond out of Scandinavian soil as myself. Yes, I consider him bright and not prejudical and his in no manner pro-governmental. Never the less when the war was brought up, he just couldn't help becoming patriotic. Though he fully agreed that atrocities were commited by American troops and over all disliked the war, he had to defend his government.
- Who else should have brought down Saddam? he argued. Well, no one should, Saddam didn't declare any war.

Strangely enough this war has departed me from my American friends, where the 'good ol' Nam war united me with them. So much has happend in some +35 years - also with the American soul.

Therefore it feels kinda a relief to discover this forum.

Let me tell you what is wrong today. Fear is eatining up the hearts of people, and to bring back the thread, it's the true, the hidden agenda of this "War On Thereaurrr".
FEAR is the new worldreligion and when we all are converted the priest can do whatever they like and choose.

Please try follow that thread.
To ponder on it, the most dangerous religion the world ever seen, please read the following article from Sydney Morning Herald, 2nd of September by Michael Parker
A grave new world

And to ServoHahn, please come back, I like your style, your black humour and give-it-a-damn way.
And don't worry about your broken home

...mine was both cracked and torn.

And to soficrow, no we don't like officials who hide behind closed doors. It's the same in Denmark, up untill recently an open society, but now shamefully a member of the "coalition of the willing".

[edit on 7/9/06 by khunmoon]


reply posted on 6-3-2009 @ 08:00 PM by mcguyvermanolo
reply to post by marg6043



I agree with you.

Please Google: "Fight the New World Order with Global Non Compliance"

All vetted, all info in the public domain.

This is what is allowed to happen when 300 communications companies in the US
become 5 Mega Corporations.
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