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posted on Oct, 3 2019 @ 07:12 AM

originally posted by: chr0naut
No doubt it is.

But most countries in the world just do not have special classes that teach only one political structure and process.

They don't have Civics classes at all.

They do have history, economics and social sciences classes which teach about many political systems.

In universities (tertiary education) they have a whole raft of humanities subjects where the specifics are taught, such as Law, Economics and Philosophy, but which usually have a far broader scope than just one particular political system.

We do as well...

You were the one insinuating that Civics classes were 'indoctrination' classes.

posted on Oct, 3 2019 @ 07:29 AM

originally posted by: Byrd
"We aren't discussing local politics, we're talking national - and the radical-leftist-wing-nut-socialists have taken over your party in case you hadn't noticed."

You were talking about a takeover of the Senate and House. And that doesn't happen unless there's substantial support in the state.

True, but people often vote differently - sometimes very differently - in federal vs local elections.

"He sent more aid to Puerto Rico than anyone had before"

The scope of the devastation was unlike any other previous event. Plus, some of that was the result of Congress budgeting and allocating.

Trump cannot unilaterally send billions anywhere - he needs Congress' authorization.

Lack of funding for aid is on Congress, not Trump.

But he was absolutely right about the corruption in Puerto Rico, now, wasn't he?

His responses to the other disasters that have occurred have been excellent...

I'm not impressed. As I recall (and I checked the FEMA website, which gives the breakdown of allocated/sent/programs : ) there was nothing for the midwest and the relief sent to Puerto Rico was $14 billion (I have friends in Puerto Rico and the story from there and on NPR varied from the version you see here at ATS)
Did you ask them about the massive corruption in their government? I wouldn't want to a bunch of corrupt politicians either. Congress should pass disaster relief on a case by case basis, not use these disasters to enrich a bunch of fellow corrupt government leeches.

And I recall that his response to California's huge fire was "rake the forest" and threats about sanctuary cities and withholding funds.

He was mostly right though. Those fires wouldn't have been nearly as bad if normal natural fire control methods were allowed to be used.

"Actually, while the farmers and others are grumbling, most acknowledge and appreciate what he is trying to do, and are willing to experience a little short term pain for long term gain."

Those who lost their farms as a result of this "little short term pain" (a few, certainly but not a large number) have probably changed their minds.

Maybe - and maybe they were farms that relied solely on subsidies... I don't know, and likely neither do you.

And the "little short term pain" is turning into much longer term pain (again, according to news interviews that I've seen the China tariffs are still on and he's announced new ones on Europe: and there's a lot of doubt and frustration -- and then there's the (not discussed on here) Fox News story about corn-ethanol rules that Trump changed: that they're not happy with. Ethanol plants are shutting down. He did say he's going to reverse this, but it's been more than a month since that promise and the deal currently offered has some problems.

We shall see. The public tends to have short memories.

We shall see... Nov 2020 is not far off...

posted on Oct, 3 2019 @ 07:32 AM

originally posted by: Byrd
and then there's the (not discussed on here) Fox News story about corn-ethanol rules that Trump changed: that they're not happy with. Ethanol plants are shutting down.

Oh - and I am 100% in favor of eliminating all farm subsidies, like the massive corn subsidies. It is simply insane to pay farmers to not grow things.

Ethanol needs to go, it destroys engines, I would love to be able to buy pure gasoline without any ethanol in it, but the very few places that sell it it costs much more.

posted on Oct, 3 2019 @ 08:18 AM
a reply to: FlyinHeadlock

good for them to still vote for him

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