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GOP operative who orchestrated most of the investigations into Obama, admits it was all for show..

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posted on Oct, 1 2019 @ 08:34 AM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015

originally posted by: SocratesJohnson
a reply to: JustJohnny

Not trolling, honest questions:

Do you have friends outside of online?

If so, are any of them Republicans?

Trump has lost very little supposed among Republicans.

If you think I am wrong, please link what data you are using for your opinion....

I will wait....


Yes, you are wrong.

Support for impeaching Trump rises among independents and Republicans


Interesting that's not what I heard:


Americans are split, 49%-46%, on whether they approve of Democrats' impeachment inquiry into President Trump, and independents at this point are not on board, a new NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist Poll finds.

Americans by a narrow margin oppose impeachment hearings to remove President Donald Trump from office, according to the latest CNBC All-America Economic Survey.

But the CNBC poll of 800 Americans nationwide conducted last week found a significant shift where fewer Americans are opposed to impeachment. It also found a large decline in the president's overall and economic approval ratings.

The survey found 47% opposing impeachment hearings and 44% approving. The difference is within the poll's 3.5% margin of error.

The results are much closer than when an NBC/Wall Street Journal poll asked the same question in December 2017, finding 41% approving of impeachment hearings and a majority 54% disapproving.

"The American people are not jumping towards impeachment," said Micah Roberts, a partner in Public Opinion Strategies who serves as the Republican pollster for the CNBC survey. "They are cautiously moving away from opposing impeachment."

Jay Campbell, partner in Hart Research, the Democratic pollster for CNBC, agreed that what's been revealed so far "is not enough" to spur public opinion toward majority support of impeachment. But Campbell said the change between the two polls is statistically significant and puts the president "in a precarious situation."

The poll shows that 88% of Republicans oppose impeachment, compared to 76% of Democrats who favor it. Independents are split about evenly, with 42% favoring impeachment and 43% opposing.


CNBC

Sounds more like this is the new conspiracy of the week and just like all the ones that came before it will soon just be in the white noise.




posted on Oct, 1 2019 @ 10:10 AM
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So the point of the OP is: The GOP engaged in frivolous investigations THEN just as the Democrats do NOW.

To illustrate the point OP references "Fast&Furious" - which has been substantiated as a non-frivolous non-partisan issue following the actual death of Border Patrol personnel.

NOT seeing how this supports the OP's argument - in fact - this example negates the OP's arguments entirely. imo

ganjoa



posted on Oct, 1 2019 @ 10:14 AM
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originally posted by: JustJohnny

That’s right you have a republican admitting to the GOP intentionally and knowingly fabricating fake investigations against Obama just to propagandize their sheeple..


Regardless of the institutional interloping, that this guy describes,
Donald played the same kind of harassment for ages through the Obama Presidency with his own birther campaign...and even when he did finally admit Obama was an American...born in America, the piece of shiite tried to blame HC for starting the birther hoax, obviously being wrong stuck in his craw, and picked on HC to attack.
So, there you go, but what can you expect from a pig, but a grunt.
I would like to think that those who follow Trump would themselves be more magnanimous in their acceptance of Obama's legitimacy.
edit on 1-10-2019 by smurfy because: Text.



posted on Oct, 1 2019 @ 10:57 AM
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originally posted by: JustJohnny
a reply to: stosh64

Trump has been running republicans off since he won the nomination because of his criminality and the fact he acts like a dumpster fire..




Citation needed



posted on Oct, 1 2019 @ 10:59 AM
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originally posted by: DanDanDat
a reply to: JustJohnny




Once again for the civically challenged among us. The accused has no responsibility to prove that his accusers have no evidence against them.


and for those who like luxuries like logic and reason, it is not possible to prove a negative.



posted on Oct, 1 2019 @ 12:13 PM
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Here's the difference. Whether those investigations (and the current ones) were fake or based on real evidence, Obama just rolled with it. Trump's fragile ego and low self esteem can't handle anything other than praise and support, something no President has ever gotten.



posted on Oct, 1 2019 @ 12:30 PM
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a reply to: JustJohnny

From your sourced link...


The third of these investigations was initiated in 2013 into the IRS’ alleged targeting scandal. It was eventually debunked as baseless, with even the Trump administration declaring in 2017 that prosecuting the matter “would not be appropriate based on the available evidence.”


That's a bunch of BS that should rank your whole source as being non credible.

Lois Lerner admitted that they were targeting conservatives, and ultimately, it resulted in a multi-million dollar payout to the victims. If there hadn't been enough evidence, there never would have been a payout. The problem was trying to prove which Obama administrator (if not Obama himself) was the main driver behind it. Based on the fact that King Street Patriots was hit up by 5 different federal agencies for investigation tells me that the DOJ was behind it. No one could have sicked that many federal agencies on one organization without coordination from the DOJ's Attorney General, at the very least.



posted on Oct, 1 2019 @ 12:36 PM
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originally posted by: Deetermined
a reply to: JustJohnny

From your sourced link...


The third of these investigations was initiated in 2013 into the IRS’ alleged targeting scandal. It was eventually debunked as baseless, with even the Trump administration declaring in 2017 that prosecuting the matter “would not be appropriate based on the available evidence.”


That's a bunch of BS that should rank your whole source as being non credible.

Lois Lerner admitted that they were targeting conservatives, and ultimately, it resulted in a multi-million dollar payout to the victims. If there hadn't been enough evidence, there never would have been a payout. The problem was trying to prove which Obama administrator (if not Obama himself) was the main driver behind it. Based on the fact that King Street Patriots was hit up by 5 different federal agencies for investigation tells me that the DOJ was behind it. No one could have sicked that many federal agencies on one organization without coordination from the DOJ's Attorney General, at the very least.


OP had to know the article was complete bullcrap and is just trying to continue to push the same old talking points. There's no way someone is actually that stupid.



posted on Oct, 1 2019 @ 01:35 PM
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originally posted by: JustJohnny
In a nut shell the GOP decided to constantly run fake investigations... knowing their supporters would believe ANYTHING they tell them with a conspiracy bend..no matter how ridiculous.

Ummm... nothing like that was found in the article linked - maybe you provided the wrong link?

Or maybe you are just another radical-leftist-liar?

So, on that basis, ignoring the rest of your gobbledy-speak.



posted on Oct, 1 2019 @ 01:42 PM
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a reply to: JustJohnny

Dude... Even democrats aren't sticking around with the new DNC because they've been left behind. Any Republican swapping after 2016 was only ever a RINO.

But hey, the election closes in so you do you bro.



posted on Oct, 1 2019 @ 06:52 PM
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originally posted by: Irishhaf
So all those people dead due to the fast and furious gun running scheme... it was just for show, I am wondering if English is your second language.

Do you mean the republicans never meant to actually "get" him... or do you mean all those people that were killed by guns the fed let walk into mexico didnt really happen?


Don't forget Benghazi.

Safety of US ambassdors in favor of Chevy Volts!



posted on Oct, 1 2019 @ 06:53 PM
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originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan

originally posted by: JustJohnny
a reply to: stosh64

Trump has been running republicans off since he won the nomination because of his criminality and the fact he acts like a dumpster fire..




Citation needed


The citation is Republicans wanted Cruz.

Trump would to have to had R's to lose them.




posted on Oct, 1 2019 @ 06:54 PM
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originally posted by: stosh64
a reply to: JustJohnny



Kurt Bardella, a member of USA TODAY's Board of Contributors and a former spokesperson and senior adviser for Republicans on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, joined the Democratic Party in 2017.


LoL


I see this topic was shot in the ass on the first post 😃




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