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Musk says there aren’t any aliens

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posted on Oct, 2 2019 @ 11:35 PM
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originally posted by: Blue Shift

originally posted by: 1point92AU
A few years ago we were so resolute in making statements that there were "100 billion galaxies in the Universe". Low and behold because our technology has advanced that number was revised to "200 billion galaxies in the Universe". Now it seems due to further advancements in our technology we estimate the number of galaxies in the Universe to number in the trillions. The trillions.

Yeah, but you know that doesn't mean anything when you're dealing with a small sample.


I'm not sure what you are arguing for but you literally just proved my point.

I'm not a Neil Degrasse Tyson fan but he has an exceptional analogy. He says sometimes making an argument requires greater samples. He uses the following argument where a person claims there are no whales in the ocean. The person walks to the ocean and scoops up a glass of water and proclaims, "You see...there are no whales in the ocean." Degrasse says, "clearly we need a much larger sample".

Case in point. For Elon to make his asinine claim is the equivalent of the glass of water as a sample of the ocean.




posted on Oct, 9 2019 @ 08:30 PM
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originally posted by: 1point92AU

originally posted by: Blue Shift

originally posted by: 1point92AU
A few years ago we were so resolute in making statements that there were "100 billion galaxies in the Universe". Low and behold because our technology has advanced that number was revised to "200 billion galaxies in the Universe". Now it seems due to further advancements in our technology we estimate the number of galaxies in the Universe to number in the trillions. The trillions.

Yeah, but you know that doesn't mean anything when you're dealing with a small sample.


I'm not sure what you are arguing for but you literally just proved my point.

I'm not a Neil Degrasse Tyson fan but he has an exceptional analogy. He says sometimes making an argument requires greater samples. He uses the following argument where a person claims there are no whales in the ocean. The person walks to the ocean and scoops up a glass of water and proclaims, "You see...there are no whales in the ocean." Degrasse says, "clearly we need a much larger sample".

Case in point. For Elon to make his asinine claim is the equivalent of the glass of water as a sample of the ocean.


This is the wrong analogy.

Nobody is saying there are no 'aliens' in the Universe. They're saying that claims that they are coming here and flying around in ships being secretive have no evidence.

There may indeed be some kind of 'life' in the Universe. I'd guess that there is microscopic life in the Solar System. But it's not coming here and probing people.

I do not understand why people keep conflating this. It makes no difference if there are 10 sentient alien species on the other side of the Universe. They're likely to be planet-bound, extinct by the time anyone could get there even if FTL drives were possible, and because of their scarcity we are essentially 'alone' for whatever that matters.

Bear in mind that we are limited to the Local Group as far as travel. The expansion of space-time is such that it's moving away from us (like the surface of an expanding balloon), faster than light with the speed increasing. So the state of 'beings' in the Universe is moot. We can only ever relate to those in the gravitationally bound Local Group.

HTH. People are just not using their heads on this topic.



posted on Oct, 12 2019 @ 02:34 PM
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a reply to: EnigmaChaser

Musk says we are almost certainly living in a simulated reality.
We shouldn't take his opinions too seriously.



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