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Hypothetical: Read this and respond as if you had no political affiliation

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posted on Sep, 29 2019 @ 10:07 AM
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Trump got his son Don Jr. a job on the board of directors for Citgo, a gas company owned by Venezuela. Now, Don Jr. doesn't know anything about the work there, but they pay is DOPE! He's making like $50g's a month!

ETA: Don Jr. is being investigated for smoking a fatty in his office at Citgo. Trump calls and has the government shut down the investigation or he will weigh more sanctions on the country.

But......Joe Biden hears about this, and feels like it might be a conflict of interest.

Does Joe have any right to ask questions about this?

Since he cannot investigate this, as he has no jurisdiction in Venezuela, can he ask his investigators to work with the Venezuela government?

And lastly, would this be a campaign finance issue? Would it be against the law? And would the MSM treat Trump as they have Biden in reality?
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posted on Sep, 29 2019 @ 10:15 AM
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a reply to: network dude

Yes.
We think the last administration might have done something a bit fishy so you might want to take a look at this guy.

He would be negligent not to tip them off to possible corruption.
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posted on Sep, 29 2019 @ 10:24 AM
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a reply to: network dude

By fatty, you do mean smoking a joint or marijuana cigarette, right? Drugs are illegal. Taking drugs at work is also illegal, not to mention stupid. Is Don Jr. really that stupid?



posted on Sep, 29 2019 @ 10:29 AM
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a reply to: network dude

That would open up a can of worms as every single last one of them are doing things like this.

They would be sealing their own fate.

Honor amongst thieves and all that.



posted on Sep, 29 2019 @ 10:31 AM
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No affiliations here;

We balls deep in a culture war folks.



posted on Sep, 29 2019 @ 10:32 AM
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originally posted by: LightSpeedDriver
a reply to: network dude

By fatty, you do mean smoking a joint or marijuana cigarette, right? Drugs are illegal. Taking drugs at work is also illegal, not to mention stupid. Is Don Jr. really that stupid?


He may be. Hypothetically that is. RIF.



posted on Sep, 29 2019 @ 10:35 AM
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originally posted by: LightSpeedDriver
a reply to: network dude

By fatty, you do mean smoking a joint or marijuana cigarette, right? Drugs are illegal. Taking drugs at work is also illegal, not to mention stupid. Is Don Jr. really that stupid?


Read the title of the OP. It's a HYPOTHETICAL scenario.

Hypothetical: Existing only in concept and not in reality.



posted on Sep, 29 2019 @ 10:41 AM
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The stupid part of this weeks controversy (and apparently the last 3 years of investigation after investigation) is that it involves a lot of supposition about a lot of circumstantial evidence. No one caught Trump nor Biden doing anything that is unequivocally wrong or illegal.

So in the absence of guilt beyond the shadow of doughty you have partisans running around with fingers in their ears screaming their beliefs at the top of their lungs. The winner will be the one that doesn't fall to exhaustion first.

Its no way to run a country and will lead to a lot of problems as we move into the future.


It does sell newspapers though so at least one class of people will be happy.
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posted on Sep, 29 2019 @ 10:49 AM
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a reply to: DanDanDat

But you gotta admit it does cause great distraction...
Nobody is talking about Epstein.
Nobody is talking about the disastrous democrat debates.



posted on Sep, 29 2019 @ 10:51 AM
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a reply to: network dude

Joe should go to jail, and share a cell with the President who violated the constitution by asking Venezuela to dig up dirt on his political opponent.

Can we agree?




posted on Sep, 29 2019 @ 10:54 AM
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a reply to: underwerks

Is violating the constitution punishable with jail time?



posted on Sep, 29 2019 @ 10:56 AM
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originally posted by: LightSpeedDriver
a reply to: network dude

By fatty, you do mean smoking a joint or marijuana cigarette, right? Drugs are illegal. Taking drugs at work is also illegal, not to mention stupid. Is Don Jr. really that stupid?


What if he was also kicked out of the United States Navy for Cocaine abuse?

www.nbcnews.com... aine-n227811
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posted on Sep, 29 2019 @ 10:57 AM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: underwerks

Is violating the constitution punishable with jail time?


In this case, yes. Because it's federal law as well. And violating the constitution is also grounds for impeachment.



posted on Sep, 29 2019 @ 11:01 AM
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There would be no investigation in Venezuela for smoking a joint. Try a realistic hypothetical situation next time. Also, Don jr. Is a businessman & Biden's son is a crack addict who got kicked out of the military. Biden is on video at a CFR meeting bragging about his illegal quid pro quo deal.
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posted on Sep, 29 2019 @ 11:01 AM
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originally posted by: Lysergic
No affiliations here;

We balls deep in a culture war folks.


“That’s a fact Jack”



posted on Sep, 29 2019 @ 11:03 AM
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originally posted by: underwerks

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: underwerks

Is violating the constitution punishable with jail time?


In this case, yes. Because it's federal law as well. And violating the constitution is also grounds for impeachment.


Well state governors violate federal law with their sanctuary states and none of them are in jail.
How the actions of the president are judged by the interpretation of the law is the key.
I see no way this could lead to jail time, and not likely impeachment.
Never get through both houses.



posted on Sep, 29 2019 @ 11:03 AM
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originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: network dude

Joe should go to jail, and share a cell with the President who violated the constitution by asking Venezuela to dig up dirt on his political opponent.

Can we agree?



If it happened just like that, sure. The justice system would take it's course. I'd hate to assume you meant to bypass the whole "innocent until proven guilty" aspect, which I'm sure what just an oversight on your part.



posted on Sep, 29 2019 @ 11:15 AM
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a reply to: network dude

Great way to highlight the "if the situation were reversed" method of discussion.

Well played ND!!

Food for thought, n'est pas folks?



posted on Sep, 29 2019 @ 11:18 AM
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a reply to: queenofswords

My bad, my comment still stands though.


ETA I shouldn't use ATS at the moment. It just times out all the time here.
edit on 29/9/19 by LightSpeedDriver because: ETA



posted on Sep, 29 2019 @ 11:20 AM
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originally posted by: network dude
Trump got his son Don Jr. a job on the board of directors for Citgo, a gas company owned by Venezuela. Now, Don Jr. doesn't know anything about the work there, but they pay is DOPE! He's making like $50g's a month!

ETA: Don Jr. is being investigated for smoking a fatty in his office at Citgo. Trump calls and has the government shut down the investigation or he will weigh more sanctions on the country.


...and you can stop right there.

The laws of the US don't apply to the rest of the world... and likewise, THEIR laws don't apply here in the US. If what he was doing is okay in that part of the world, the US can't call for prosecution/investigation.

He would be under the jurisdiction of that country.

If the US pressures that country to use US laws in that country (instead of the country's own laws) then that's a serious attempt to interfere with the sovereignty of another nation. And the person in the US initiating that action needs to be removed from a position of power.


(and yes, I know the US has done things like this in the past. We made laws to rein it in. The US can investigate and ask for help from that country if the crime was committed on a piece of land considered to be US soil (such as an embassy or a military base))




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