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originally posted by: dfnj2015
originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: Joneselius
Trump's imagined wrongdoings
It's not imagined. I read the transcript. It looks like real evidence to me. You can try to dismiss it as not evidence but that's now how any judge is going to see it:
"On September 23, 2019, Common Cause filed a complaint with the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) and the Federal Election Commission (FEC) alleging that President Donald Trump, his personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, and other political operatives illegally solicited a political contribution from a foreign national—by urging Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and other Ukrainian officials to investigate Hunter Biden and 2020 presidential candidate Joe Biden. The allegations were first published in The Wall Street Journal, and subsequently President Trump admitted that during a July 25th phone call he pressured President Zelensky to pursue the investigation of his political rival and his son.
Federal law prohibits a foreign national from directly or indirectly making a “contribution or donation of money or other thing of value” in connection with a U.S. election. Federal law also prohibits a person from soliciting or providing substantial assistance in the solicitation of such a contribution from a foreign national. Federal law defines “contribution” to include “any gift … of money or anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office.” And the FEC by regulation defines “solicit” to mean “to ask, request, or recommend, explicitly or implicitly, that another person make a contribution, donation, transfer of funds, or otherwise provide anything of value.”"
People are filing complaints with DOJ. Show me one link where someone files a complaint against Joe Biden? There are none because there is no evidence.
There was no withholding or threatening to withhold anything mentioned in the call, and Zelensky gave a joint press conference afterward with Trump stating he never felt pressured in any way.
We don't know that for certain. We got a summary of the call.
But tell me, did you ever watch the Sopranos? A threat need not be explicit to be clear.
No, we got the official word-for-word transcript.
The transcript, in keeping with White House practice, is a memorandum of a telephone conversation and is not a verbatim account of the conversation. The text reflects the notes and memories of officials in the Situation Room. A disclaimer in the transcript warns that a number of factors “can affect the accuracy of the record, including poor telecommunications connections and variations in accent.”
Thanks. Because if anyone ever actually did that sort of thing it would be bad. Extortion is bad. Good thing it's only TV.
Those are actors playing pretend. It's not real.
No. As I said, corruption in former Communist regimes seems to be a real problem.
What do you think of his replacement being a felon? Is that an improvement?