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The treaty with Ukraine on mutual legal assistance in criminal matters

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posted on Sep, 28 2019 @ 11:10 PM
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I wish I had done this in the morning because it’s all over the news now . Lol

Signed by both heads of state in 1999 and ratified by Senate in the year 2000. Completely legal constitutional and internationally binding.

Trump was acting under constitutional authority when you made a request for a criminal investigation.

Can they prove quid pro quo with this legal standing ?



The letter of transmittal sums it up.


The White House November 10, 1999.

To the Senate of the United States:
With a view to receiving the advice and consent of the
Senate to ratification, I transmit here with the Treaty Between
the United States of America and Ukraine on Mutual Legal
Assistance in Criminal Matters with Annex, signed at Kiev on
July 22, 1998. I transmit also, for the information of the
Senate, an exchange of notes which was signed on September 30,
1999, which provides for its provisional application, as well
as the report of the Department of State with respect to the
Treaty.
The Treaty is one of a series of modern mutual legal
assistance treaties being negotiated by the United States in
order to counter criminal activities more effectively. The
Treaty should be an effective tool to assist in the prosecution
of a wide variety of crimes, including drug trafficking
offenses. The Treaty is self-executing. It provides for a broad
range of cooperation in criminal matters. Mutual assistance
available under the Treaty includes: taking of testimony or
statements of persons; providing documents, records, and
articles of evidence; serving documents; locating or
identifying persons; transferring persons in custody for
testimony or other purposes; executing requests for searches
and seizures; assisting in proceedings related to restraint,
confiscation, forfeiture of assets, restitution, and collection
of fines; and any other form of assistance not prohibited by
the laws of the requested state.
I recommend that the Senate give early and favorable
consideration to the Treaty and give its advice and consent to
ratification.

William J Clinton.


Thank you slick Willy!

If this is used and Trump beats the house. I would almost feel sorry for him. How would you like to be sitting on the couch trying to watch TV with Hillary raging in your ear. 😁


After I read it, my take was that it’s basically a vamped up extradition agreement .

Under article 2 Trump can negotiate with any foreign dignitary he wants . Plus Central authority (envoy) can apply to Rudy if he finds his ass in a sling. They can be public or private .

www.congress.gov...

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posted on Sep, 28 2019 @ 11:18 PM
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106-16 straws that break camels backs 😃



posted on Sep, 28 2019 @ 11:35 PM
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They like to make it seem as if ordinary things a President
is authorized to do is called into question because it is
President Trump doing them.

This is all part of the trappings to try and make President
Trump seem suspect, and powerless.

Good find, S&F

It is important that we know the screaming from the left
is not legitimate, it is a soundtrack.



posted on Sep, 28 2019 @ 11:37 PM
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a reply to: Fallingdown

I love how this President and White House lets Democrats and Liberal Media run through the gamut of extreme emotions for 3 or 4 days, before sharing evidence/proof that makes them all repeat-offender fools, once again!

ONE Example of many:

Dims: Twump dispatched Gooliani to U-Crane! Dat So Baaaaad! Empeech!!!

-4 days later-

Pompeo: We sent Rudy to Ukraine to retrieve documents that proves the Democrat National Committee (DNC) conspired with the prior Ukrainian administration to Help Hillary/Damage Trump.

-1 day later-

Dims: Twump dispatched Gooliani to U-Crane! Dat So Baaaaad! Empeech!!!

(The American public then sees ONCE AGAIN that Democrats have gone off the deep-end. Thereby causing more Democrats to defect.)
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posted on Sep, 28 2019 @ 11:43 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Last time I looked they had 235 congressmen in favor of the impeachment .

This would have to sway 17 in red or pink states .

Don’t get me wrong I’ve been positive about impeachment since the midterms . But combine this with the IG report and there may be a longshot chance. If this is played up loud. Fox is actually doing their part even on the weekend when it’s trump bad time .
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posted on Sep, 28 2019 @ 11:49 PM
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Almost as if it's all set up, scripted. Anytime either side has a "bombshell" (lol more like dud) a technicality or loophole swoops in last minute to save the day. 🤔

You guys have been chasing your tails for over 3 years now, wonder when you'll realize you'll never catch it? 🤣
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posted on Sep, 29 2019 @ 12:07 AM
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a reply to: burntheships

I hope he’s playing his Trump card this week. The country is going to see the coordinated attack on an innocent man using every weapon the federal government has .

“Virtue is always the cover for the sin “

Tucker Carlson



posted on Sep, 29 2019 @ 12:08 AM
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Some of the Democratic congressional leaders are just that dumb that they start opening their mouths before actually researching things. They must have lawyers that advise them? Where did they get their lawyers from, did they buy them from Amazon on a black Friday deal? I think they need to get a team to overlook their overzealous mouths.



posted on Sep, 29 2019 @ 12:17 AM
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a reply to: Fallingdown

Do we have a map of the electorate counties,
the one that is mostly red?

Oh, here we go.



It's only just begun.




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posted on Sep, 29 2019 @ 12:24 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

Hunting ain’t no fun when the rabbit has a gun .



posted on Sep, 29 2019 @ 12:48 AM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
Almost as if it's all set up, scripted. Anytime either side has a "bombshell" (lol more like dud) a technicality or loophole swoops in last minute to save the day. 🤔

You guys have been chasing your tails for over 3 years now, wonder when you'll realize you'll never catch it? 🤣

Well you've chased you're own tail with the same comment for about 4 or 5 years, all the while assuming this community is completely ignorant.

So when are you gonna stop chasing that tail?

The topic at hand is the US agreement, treaty even, with the Ukraine to pursue and prosecute corruption.

There is quite a bit of emerging evidence that Biden may have acted illegally, now you as the completely enlightened unbiased nonpartisan one should love to see this evidence. This is literally your enemy being exposed, yet you post nonsense that only defends the thing you proclaim to be above?

Meh, too lazy to put in fry meme so
"Not sure if serious?"



posted on Sep, 29 2019 @ 02:16 AM
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a reply to: rickymouse

I don’t think any Democrat or media cares what they say .

They’ve got their base so angry they’ll believe anything .

Rachel Maddow or Hillary Clinton could tell them Jewish lead Nazis are behind the white supremacy movement . And they’d be boycotting bagel shops tomorrow .

I’ve been trying to think of a historical comparison for what’s going on . And the only thing I can come up with is organize discontent and that’s how revolts start . A revolution can be either peaceful or violent but either way it’s a mess .

The 60s 70s and 80s were divisive but nothing near what we’ve got today . The liberal media/Democratic Party has a firm grasp emotionally on just about the entire party . Blaming it on the radical left is ignorant. I see it regularly in rational people I’ve known for decades . Without exaggeration it frightens me. Not as much for myself but for my kids and grandkids .

The moderate left will come to their senses after Trump is gone . But the radical left won’t quit until they get their way.

Hopefully they never do .



posted on Sep, 29 2019 @ 06:46 AM
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a reply to: Fallingdown

He wasnt negotiating he was shaking the guy down.
See, if he was merely negotiating than he would not have held up the aid.
But he did. until the guy does us a little favor.
The US does a lot for you... time for some reciprocity.
There is no putting lipstick on this pig and passing her as the first lady.



posted on Sep, 29 2019 @ 06:56 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

What happens when you dream is not taking place in the real world.
Sorry.
You must have dreamt where the democrats cant spell and they suck their thumbs all day while the republicans are the responsible adults taking care of the country.

But I see a huge problem that is being trivialized out of total fear of what this means to this presidency.

The american people are not blind or stupid and they certainly CAN see what is going on.

But keep pretending. I love it when I read this stuff and then compare it to what is really happening. Its amazing to me how ill informed and blind people can be.



posted on Sep, 29 2019 @ 07:00 AM
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a reply to: Fallingdown

The innocent man who extorted the leader of a country by threatening to and eventually holding up sorely needed military aid.

He helped himself to some fake dirt and he helped his master Putin but he also helped himself to an impeachment.

Good thing criminals tend also to be stupid.



posted on Sep, 29 2019 @ 07:02 AM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
Almost as if it's all set up, scripted. Anytime either side has a "bombshell" (lol more like dud) a technicality or loophole swoops in last minute to save the day. 🤔

You guys have been chasing your tails for over 3 years now, wonder when you'll realize you'll never catch it? 🤣


I wonder when you will stop pretending you aren't 100% in, just like those you pretend to be above. Or perhaps you just don't really understand that you are involved, with every post about moral superiority, yet always staying on the left side of things, just to convey the illusion of brain activity.

It was old and played about a year and a half ago, but keep it up, you and your butty/sock are good for a consistent laugh.



posted on Sep, 29 2019 @ 07:03 AM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Fallingdown

The innocent man who extorted the leader of a country by threatening to and eventually holding up sorely needed military aid.

He helped himself to some fake dirt and he helped his master Putin but he also helped himself to an impeachment.

Good thing criminals tend also to be stupid.


I know. That Biden is a real asshole.



posted on Sep, 29 2019 @ 07:09 AM
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a reply to: Vector99

That was NOT what he was doing. Please.
The Biden story is a stupid conspiracy theory with no meat on the bone.
No one is buying that. The dummy's who are still pushing it just look stupid.
We've heard less and less about this supposed corruption on Bidens part except for a tiny handful over the last few days.
The focus had to change because it was failing. Now its the form being changed, the spy who worked for the CIA and the credibility of the report as a whole. Along with well, we hide everything because we get embarrassed by our mistakes and stupidness and this is no different.
He wanted a lie if he couldn't get anything real and it didn't matter who suffered for him to get it.
He tried once again to cheat his way into the presidency.
And now he is fighting for his very job.



posted on Sep, 29 2019 @ 07:13 AM
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a reply to: network dude

I know Uranium One ....

LOL...

This is more like that you know...



posted on Sep, 29 2019 @ 07:42 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme




This is more like that you know...


one thing I'm sure of is that you don't. BAMN.



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