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Since whistle blowers are heroes now, what about Snowden and Assange?

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posted on Sep, 28 2019 @ 07:30 AM
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Recently, the whistle blower who used second hand info to craft an amazingly articulate letter exposing Trump for speaking to a foreign leader is being hailed a hero, and the left is all over themselves to paint this person who went outside the chain of command to taddle as a true patriot, you have to revisit the others. The OG whistle blowers. Snowden, Assange, Manning. Are they not equally as patriotic? Or are they different, because they weren't trying to help the narrative?

Double Standards, it's what's for dinner.




posted on Sep, 28 2019 @ 07:36 AM
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a reply to: network dude

Hacking a system and putting classified material out like that is illegal. No whistleblower protection act to protect them for illegal activites



posted on Sep, 28 2019 @ 07:41 AM
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I thought they were already heros around here.
Along with Chelsea Manning.


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posted on Sep, 28 2019 @ 07:43 AM
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originally posted by: cognizant420
a reply to: network dude

Hacking a system and putting classified material out like that is illegal. No whistleblower protection act to protect them for illegal activites


Going outside the chain of command when you have TS clearance is totally cool though.


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posted on Sep, 28 2019 @ 07:43 AM
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How soon they forget.



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As for Obama’s record, here’s what history will show: In his eight years in office, the Obama Justice Department spearheaded eight Espionage Act prosecutions, more than all US administrations combined. Journalists were also caught in the crosshairs: Investigators sought phone records for Associated Press journalists, threatened to jail an investigative reporter for The New York Times, and named a Fox News reporter a co-conspirator in a leak case. In Texas, a journalist investigating private defense contractors became the focus of a federal prosecution and was initially charged for sharing a hyperlink containing hacked information that had already been made public.



Waiting for " but, but that's different " from the usual crowd.
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posted on Sep, 28 2019 @ 07:45 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

If ATS was how the world worked, you might have a point, but it's not. Those same whistle blower ass kissers are against the one's I mentioned. Because they went against the narrative.



posted on Sep, 28 2019 @ 07:46 AM
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a reply to: DAVID64

Obviously it's different. remember "the narrative" is what's important here.



posted on Sep, 28 2019 @ 07:47 AM
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a reply to: cognizant420

It's illegal for the CIA to conduct espionage operations on American citizens on US soil. This current whistle-blower and everyone in his chain of command who was aware of this operation should be in federal prison. Anyone in his chain of command who claims they were not aware should be fired for incompetence.



posted on Sep, 28 2019 @ 07:50 AM
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a reply to: network dude

Double Standards is pretty good if you put bacon and cheese on it. First you have to be a patriot...……...the socialists democratic party isn't.


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posted on Sep, 28 2019 @ 07:50 AM
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a reply to: network dude

People like Snowden, Assange and Manning who risk there lives and liberty to expose the wrongdoing and lies of governments are heroes and will always be heroes , without them government have free reign to do as they please in secret.

Governments aren't sacred , they are supposed to be servants of the people , if they do wrong it should be exposed in a lawful Democracy.



posted on Sep, 28 2019 @ 07:50 AM
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a reply to: network dude

Snowden and Assange are indeed also heros of a sorts.

After all "Veritas vos liberabit".

The world is full of double standards and hypocrisy network dude, but what you don't know can indeed hurt you.

When have ""Double Standards"" not been the colour of our day considering its one rule for some and another for the rest?



posted on Sep, 28 2019 @ 07:51 AM
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originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Sillyolme

If ATS was how the world worked, you might have a point, but it's not. Those same whistle blower ass kissers are against the one's I mentioned. Because they went against the narrative.



I will admit that i haven't followed the Manning story to in depth so I do not want to comment on he/she/it, but there is no way I would ever consider Snowden to be Patriotic. Have you ever read/looked into into securedrop, john barlow, etc?

I will try to find a thread on it, but cant remember where lol.



posted on Sep, 28 2019 @ 07:57 AM
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a reply to: cognizant420

Aye right, and the alphabet agencies and government stooge are only surviving us all and collecting all that meta-information by the bucket load for our own good i suppose?

Hacking their system and exposing there nefarious schemes, shenanigans, agendas, and real capabilities, done the collective people of our respective societies a favor and then some.


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posted on Sep, 28 2019 @ 08:08 AM
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a reply to: VictorVonDoom

I'm not saying they havent brought some evil to light, just the way they did it was criminal and there are no protections in place for the illegal activities involved. As far as government spieing on us I dont like that either.



posted on Sep, 28 2019 @ 08:10 AM
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a reply to: andy06shake

Getting the info in a illegal way doesnt help the cause, but rather hurts it. If you want the corruption brought down there are only 2 ways to do it. By force or by legal means.



posted on Sep, 28 2019 @ 08:14 AM
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a reply to: cognizant420

I don't disagree with you that they broke the law to do what they did. And the law has to be followed. Which kind of brings me to this thread. Just to point out the hippocracy and laugh a bit to myself. I am well aware that justice is subject to who is offering it.



posted on Sep, 28 2019 @ 08:21 AM
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a reply to: network dude

The same can be asked of Trump supporters.

Assange is/was a hero to them, this whistleblower is too, right?

Or does it only go one way?


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posted on Sep, 28 2019 @ 08:25 AM
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a reply to: network dude

I think Snowden is a hero. Outsourcing NSA is a big mistake. Some functions of government cannot be for-profit.



posted on Sep, 28 2019 @ 08:26 AM
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originally posted by: network dude
Recently, the whistle blower who used second hand info to craft an amazingly articulate letter exposing Trump for speaking .

A point of order,

The second-hand info as you call it, actually turned out to be absolutely correct as we...(or most of us) now know.



posted on Sep, 28 2019 @ 08:27 AM
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I think the double standard kind of argument is kind of dumb. If someone breaks the law the consequences are called justice. Or don't have the law in the first place!




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