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Traitors will attempt to bring down UK government next week

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posted on Nov, 22 2019 @ 06:19 AM
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Plus yer man that dropped dead in Wales in the queue for work at the job centre

Aye , how can we blame anything on the previous government when that was over ten years ago


Is ten year not long enough to turn the country around from a recession
if the conservative party are that good at governance

is ten years not a generation ?

we should only allow the tories power once in a generation , makes more sense




posted on Nov, 22 2019 @ 06:21 AM
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a reply to: eletheia





Of course they have they have always got in on the back of the mess the labour government has made of the economy.

Labour gets in on the back of the mess the Tories make of everyone's lives.



posted on Nov, 22 2019 @ 06:21 AM
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SO we are going to get a hung parliament again

I think majority of Scotland will vote SNP

I think it will be like 60-65% snp the 20-25% labour and then the rest Conservative

England will be majority Conservative at like 70% , the rest Labour

Unless im wrong and labour will somehow win in England

How do you all see the vote going ?



posted on Nov, 22 2019 @ 06:34 AM
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a reply to: sapien82

I think if the Tories walk away with 70% of the vote in England it won't matter.

They will win simply down to the population density.

Don't mean there is no hope all the same if people come to there senses.



posted on Nov, 22 2019 @ 06:35 AM
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a reply to: sapien82

I honestly have no idea how the election will pan out.

The vast majority I speak to are either completely at a loss who to vote for as they feel all options are inadequate and the rest of them are so pissed off and disengaged with politics that they have no intention whatsoever of voting as they feel their vote is irrelevant for various reasons.

Very, very few people seem to have any faith in our current 'democratic' system and those who infest it.



posted on Nov, 22 2019 @ 06:38 AM
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a reply to: andy06shake

Yeh , I think that it will be a very pivotal moment once again in the history of the UK

if the tories win in England then it really doesnt matter what we vote.

I see a lot of my friends up here pushing the labour manifesto and some even advocating for labour in constituencies
I think a lot of the younger generation are in line with Labour because of their socialist views
but they havent been burned by labour YET
which is probably a lesson they need to learn themselves.
I did with Iraq and the bankers bail out

It's a feeling of complete and utter disbelief that we are actually here in this mess.



posted on Nov, 22 2019 @ 06:40 AM
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a reply to: Freeborn

I see this a lot with people my age and older, they just cant believe this is the best we have to offer for our government.

Yeh they are just completely baffled , with the feeling there is no decent choice , no best option
not even lesser of two evils



posted on Nov, 22 2019 @ 06:41 AM
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a reply to: Freeborn

But if people dont vote.

And the Tory voters do.

We will simply remain in the same predicament, with another Tory Gooberment.

Its got to be a tactical vote imho.

I mean i would agree to not turning up to vote, if everyone was willing to do the same, and show their discontent in our supposed democratic system, but that's not how it will go down.

Won't get rid of the infestation that way.



posted on Nov, 22 2019 @ 06:46 AM
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originally posted by: sapien82

Party politics always looks to the past in order to prove the opposing party isnt fit for purpose.

we cant change the past ,



We CAN ...... by learning from and NOT repeating the mistakes of the past



posted on Nov, 22 2019 @ 06:51 AM
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a reply to: eletheia

Accept that humanity is apt to repeat her past transgressions, and refuses to learn from her mistakes, time and time again.

This is clearly evidenced by history on multiple different occasions.

So hows it's going to be any different this time around?

Love to see the paradigm your going to punt that will change that part of the Human condition.



posted on Nov, 22 2019 @ 06:52 AM
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originally posted by: Soloprotocol
a reply to: oldcarpy



Do what? Have you taken leave of your senses. The Tories are going to "kill millions"? Where do you get this drivel from?


Study: 45,000 Deaths Per Year Due to Lack of Health Insurance

Almost 1 in 5 Americans Going Without Health Care


Your links are about the US not the UK.



posted on Nov, 22 2019 @ 06:56 AM
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a reply to: eletheia

right cool , but that isnt what happens , instead they just argue over who done what and when
as if that will suddenly provide an instant resolution to the present problems!

When we all know it doesnt.

Of course lets look back to history to not repeat the same mistakes

so that would be .1. lets not have party politics in government all together
lets not blame each other instead of working together to resolve the crisis
lets not put humans in charge of others humans if they are #ing #s to begin with



posted on Nov, 22 2019 @ 07:00 AM
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originally posted by: alldaylong

The Tories where in power for 18 consecutive years between 1979-1997. In that period they oversaw two major economic recessions. What has that got to do with Labour ?


Well labour came in to government in 1997 to a surplus economy and left

in 2010 thirteen years later leaving a note to the in coming government

saying "Sorry there's no money left!!"

Maybe ....just maybe that has something to do with the last ten years of

austerity?



posted on Nov, 22 2019 @ 07:09 AM
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a reply to: sapien82

I bumped into an old friend last night who I hadn't seen for a couple of years.
He'd been to his daughters graduation from York University - an amazing achievement given the sort of antics we used to get up together, hardly the responsible role model one would expect from a parent - and as we were chatting over a couple of pints the inevitable cropped up....the current political situation.
He's just as pissed off and disgusted with the options available.

Almost every single person I speak to feels the same.
Of course there are the odd died in the wool Tory and Labour supporters but they are such a minority.

Now is the time for change.....unfortunately there's no-one around who I think is even remotely able to deliver.

Just more of the same old same old.

We can see it in this thread......people spouting the usual venom about Tories not caring and only serving the wealthy elite whilst others retaliate with the typical allegations of Labour extremism and wastefulness.
The reality is they are both a complete shower of #e and this country deserves better.

Not one of the leading party's - including the LibUndems and SNP - are deserving our vote and none of the leaders are fit for office.

I know these people aren't the best this country has to offer, they are however indicative of the out of date and unfit for purpose political system we have.

I have absolutely no intention whatsoever of discussing current events when I go to the pub later unless it is to ridicule and take the piss.



posted on Nov, 22 2019 @ 07:30 AM
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a reply to: Soloprotocol

Labour never learns. Tax borrow and spend spend spend until they run out of other peoples money.
McDonnell, Abbott and Corbyn should not be in charge of a houseplant let alone our economy.
Bribing students to vote for them with taxpayers money?
Disgusting.



posted on Nov, 22 2019 @ 07:32 AM
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a reply to: Freeborn

The pub is no place for politics




posted on Nov, 22 2019 @ 07:36 AM
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a reply to: oldcarpy

Nether is Westminster or so it seems.



posted on Nov, 22 2019 @ 07:42 AM
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originally posted by: sapien82

I see a lot of my friends up here pushing the labour manifesto and some even advocating for labour in constituencies
I think a lot of the younger generation are in line with Labour because of their socialist views
but they havent been burned by labour YET
which is probably a lesson they need to learn themselves.
I did with Iraq and the bankers bail out

It's a feeling of complete and utter disbelief that we are actually here in this mess.


Tories for me. Have to say though, it isn't a ringing endorsement. More that they are best of an appalling bunch.

Labours manifesto does have some good points but even the independent economists are saying it is pie in the sky and simply not credible.......not that we need economists to point that out as it is blatantly obvious to anyone with even a modicum of common sense that they simply can't pay for what they are promising. They may as well have promised a flying horse for each household.

Libs are no longer Democratic and Jo Swinson is an appalling choice for leader, as they are discovering. The most amusing thing so far about this election campaign is that every time Jo Swinson has visited a constituency, support for the Dems has fallen after her visit!

Which leaves the Tories. So, in effect, it is by default that i will vote for them this time round.



posted on Nov, 22 2019 @ 07:44 AM
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originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: Soloprotocol

Labour never learns. Tax borrow and spend spend spend until they run out of other peoples money.
McDonnell, Abbott and Corbyn should not be in charge of a houseplant let alone our economy.
Bribing students to vote for them with taxpayers money?
Disgusting.


I can imagine how Labour came up with much of this manifesto......

Corbyn and Abbott sat in Labour HQ, Corbyn saying something along the line of "look Diane, you keep messing up the maths. How about i tell them everything is free?"



posted on Nov, 22 2019 @ 07:46 AM
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a reply to: oldcarpy

I know mate, it came up in an unexpected but pleasant catch up with an old friend with whom I go back a long way.

There are notable exceptions when it is permissible, most notably when throwing an incendiary comment into a heated debate then sitting back and watching the fireworks go off.....childish I know but I can't help but find that highly amusing at times.

The other time I find it appropriate is when saying something very politically incorrect in the presence of snowflakes and hipsters.
I'm ashamed to say that I delight in seeing their horror and disgust.....well, not really THAT ashamed.



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