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Traitors will attempt to bring down UK government next week

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posted on Nov, 21 2019 @ 10:08 AM
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Plenty of examples in history where socialism has turned out to be just a tad on the inhumane side.


A bit like capitalism and every other man made ism there ever has been.

The common denominator seems to me to be human beings and their capacity to exploit, manipulate and control other human beings for their own benefit.




posted on Nov, 21 2019 @ 10:50 AM
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a reply to: Freeborn

Aye it is human beings just being human , we are prone to bouts of selfish greed
some more than others though

however the ones that do seem to be in power exhibit behaviours that psychologists explain are tending towards sociopathic or psychopathic behaviour

so knowing the science backs this up , why the # dont we screen for sociopathic or psychopathic behaviour in politicians

we are literally throwing the dice with our Society every time we elect these crazy bastards



posted on Nov, 21 2019 @ 12:43 PM
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posted on Nov, 21 2019 @ 02:18 PM
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a reply to: andy06shake

Yeah JC is for the many billions of pounds that he would borrow and spend and wreck the economy and leave our children saddled with crippling debt.
You really take this tired old nonsense seriously?
Good grief!



posted on Nov, 21 2019 @ 03:31 PM
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a reply to: oldcarpy

We get to keep our NHS rather than it being Americanised and run into the ground, so there is that.


And another referendum on the Brexit debacle.

I take that seriously. x

Don't know about "Good grief" but its better than Boris the sneak thief.

Lesser of two evils i suppose from my perspective.

Not a big Jeremy Corbyn fan but its better than the alternative.
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posted on Nov, 21 2019 @ 06:48 PM
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We get to keep our NHS rather than it being Americanised and run into the ground, so there is that.


I don't think the NHS will be privatised along the American style, far too many people would literally fight against that to their dying breath, myself included.
But it needs to be run professionally and the inherent wastage that is crippling it needs to be eradicated.
And without a shadow of a doubt it needs serious investment and ring fencing from ANY privatisation.


And another referendum on the Brexit debacle.


The main reasons Brexit has become such a 'debacle' is because Remainers have refused to accept the result of a democratically held referendum and have done absolutely everything to delay and derail it and have seriously undermined basic democratic principles.
Added to that we have an unfit for purpose political system that the establishment are doing everything to maintain in order to prop up the status quo.



Lesser of two evils i suppose from my perspective.


But is he?
Two sides of the same coin as far as I can see.



Not a big Jeremy Corbyn fan but its better than the alternative.


Neither of them are suitable for high office and neither of the party's they lead should be allowed to govern this country.



posted on Nov, 21 2019 @ 07:18 PM
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And yet one of them is apt to become the next party in power.

Darned if you do and darned if you don't scenario if ever there was one.

Somehow i imagine Labour may attempt to keep some of there election promises through.

Whereas Boris and the Tories will simply spell another 5 years of forced austerity, raise the retirement age to 75, screw with our human rights, and kill 100,000s of the poor and disabled in the process.

None of them are fit for purpose if truth be told, but someone is going to win.




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posted on Nov, 21 2019 @ 07:44 PM
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Corbyn may well keep some of his election promises.....the one's that bankrupt this country and pander to every minority and special cause whilst completely ignoring the wishes and best interests of his former core support; ordinary, everyday British people.

I have as much contempt for Boris Johnson as I have for Corbyn......

Vote for none of the above.



posted on Nov, 21 2019 @ 07:57 PM
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But one of them is going to win.

Make no mistake, the NHS is in danger in the hands of Boris Johnson and another Conservative Government.

And neither the NHS nor our population can afford a further five years of Tory rule.

Half those working-class everyday British people, or at least a right good significant percentage, will be dead long before they can even draw their pensions under another Tory Government.

And god only knows what will happen to the homeless statistics.

How many promised affordable homes and accommodation have the Tories built since they got back into power?

None!

Boris and his Tory crew are going to kill millions of people whilst lining their own pockets.

I'm inclined to believe a vote for Labour is indeed the lesser of two evils.

As to bankrupting the nation, well if they were ever to bring home the trillions of pounds that are kicking around the offshore accounts in numerous tax havens around the globe, and tax the rich accordingly, funding there promises might not be so much of a financial black hole.
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posted on Nov, 22 2019 @ 02:20 AM
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originally posted by: andy06shake

Make no mistake, the NHS is in danger in the hands of Boris Johnson and another Conservative Government.



There has not been one bit of proof of that, rumors started by Corbyn are not

FACTS.



And neither the NHS nor our population can afford a further five years of Tory rule.


If you look at governments since the 1947 you will see the governments rotate and

you will find that labour governments run the economy down, conservatives pick

up the economy with things like 'your' austerity my 'the 'need for stringency.

My policy in life regarding anything is unless you are a magician "you can never take

out more than there is in" of anything.


*Debt is the worst poverty and the borrower becomes the servant of the lender*




Half those working-class everyday British people, or at least a right good significant percentage, will be dead long before they can even draw their pensions under another Tory Government.


Thats always been the case in the 1940's life expectancy was around 70 yrs

so people had less than 10 years retirement. Life expectancy now is over

80 yrs and in the next generation is expected to rise again, approx 25 yrs

retirement is not sustainable.

www.telegraph.co.uk...

So you either have to pay more or retire later stands to reason.





How many promised affordable homes and accommodation have the Tories built since they got back into power?
None!


A better question would be 'How many affordable social housing homes were

built by the last labour Blair/Brown government build' when they were

in power





Boris and his Tory crew are going to kill millions of people whilst lining their own pockets.
I'm inclined to believe a vote for Labour is indeed the lesser of two evils.



/SMH ...... And Corbyn will be the saviour? and he will be doing things from the

goodness of his heart. Although I do believe that the power is more of an incentive

to him ......power greedy.



posted on Nov, 22 2019 @ 03:22 AM
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You are an extraordinary drama queen. Do you really believe what you have written, or just parrot randomly from the Twitter echo chamber?

Perhaps let's wait to see the Conservative manifesto where it says they will raise the ritirement age to 80, eh? Even the "working class" will see through Labour's intent to bankrupt the country, because, as has happened in the past, the working class (whoever they are nowadays) will end up being put out of work when the economy crashes under the national debt.

Edit to add - I think many Labour MPs who occupy the middle ground will now be very worried.
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posted on Nov, 22 2019 @ 04:51 AM
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"A better question would be 'How many affordable social housing homes were

built by the last labour Blair/Brown government build' when they were

in power "



Party politics always looks to the past in order to prove the opposing party isnt fit for purpose.

we cant change the past ,

how many houses did they build ?



posted on Nov, 22 2019 @ 05:04 AM
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Yeah JC is for the many billions of pounds that he would borrow and spend and wreck the economy and leave our children saddled with crippling debt.

Really?, Under the Tories the national debt has risen to just under 2 trillion £, Around double since the Tories came to power under Cameron. I suppose it's all Labours fault though?.



posted on Nov, 22 2019 @ 05:22 AM
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If you look at governments since the 1947 you will see the governments rotate and you will find that labour governments run the economy down, conservatives pick up the economy


Wrong.

If you look at the records, The Tories have presided over nearly all the economic recessions, apart from the mid 1970's and the 2008 Banking Crisis.

en.wikipedia.org...

The Tories where in power between 1979-1997. In that time The UK. had two major recessions. Who can forget Chancellor Norman Lamont raising interest rates on " Black Wednesday " from 10% to 15% in ONE DAY on 16th September 1992.



posted on Nov, 22 2019 @ 05:43 AM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Freeborn

But one of them is going to win.

Make no mistake, the NHS is in danger in the hands of Boris Johnson and another Conservative Government.

And neither the NHS nor our population can afford a further five years of Tory rule.

Half those working-class everyday British people, or at least a right good significant percentage, will be dead long before they can even draw their pensions under another Tory Government.

And god only knows what will happen to the homeless statistics.

How many promised affordable homes and accommodation have the Tories built since they got back into power?

None!

Boris and his Tory crew are going to kill millions of people whilst lining their own pockets.

I'm inclined to believe a vote for Labour is indeed the lesser of two evils.

As to bankrupting the nation, well if they were ever to bring home the trillions of pounds that are kicking around the offshore accounts in numerous tax havens around the globe, and tax the rich accordingly, funding there promises might not be so much of a financial black hole.


Do what? Have you taken leave of your senses.
The Tories are going to "kill millions"?
Where do you get this drivel from?



posted on Nov, 22 2019 @ 05:53 AM
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originally posted by: alldaylong

If you look at the records, The Tories have presided over nearly all the economic recessions, apart from the mid 1970's and the 2008 Banking Crisis.



Of course they have they have always got in on the back of the mess the

labour government has made of the economy.




The Tories where in power between 1979-1997. In that time The UK. had two major recessions. Who can forget Chancellor Norman Lamont raising interest rates on " Black Wednesday " from 10% to 15% in ONE DAY on 16th September 1992.




Black Wednesday September 1992
The UK’s withdrawal from the European Exchange Rate Mechanism on 16 September 1992 meant a rise in the base interest rate from 10 per cent to 12 per cent at 10.30am on that day; later that day there was a promise from John Major’s government to raise the rate further to 15 per cent. These actions were taken to encourage speculators to buy sterling. When this failed to materialise, the government reduced interest rates on
17 September 1992 back to the original rate of 10 per cent.


ALL OF ONE day.......Big impact to the average person,

but hey!! sounds good doesn't it!!!




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posted on Nov, 22 2019 @ 06:03 AM
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Of course they have they have always got in on the back of the mess the labour government has made of the economy.


I think you missed the point.

The Tories where in power for 18 consecutive years between 1979-1997. In that period they oversaw two major economic recessions. What has that got to do with Labour ?

Thatchers goal of turning The UK from manufacturing to service industries was a major cause. She ruined The UK's power to produce goods. And it has never recovered.



posted on Nov, 22 2019 @ 06:14 AM
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Naw mate none of my weans are beasts, that would be way too much of a drama. x

Perhaps let's wait and see???

Have they not already had a decade to fix the state of the place!

You wait and see, ile just attempt to vote Torres out like anyone else whos not a complete and utter bastard.

Not go bankrupt if they tax the rich twats with 8 figure bank accounts.



posted on Nov, 22 2019 @ 06:16 AM
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a reply to: oldcarpy

They have already killed around 120,000 people down to forced austerity with there ATOS and DWP nonsense.

www.independent.co.uk...



posted on Nov, 22 2019 @ 06:17 AM
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Do what? Have you taken leave of your senses. The Tories are going to "kill millions"? Where do you get this drivel from?


Study: 45,000 Deaths Per Year Due to Lack of Health Insurance

Almost 1 in 5 Americans Going Without Health Care



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