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originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: oldcarpy
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: oldcarpy
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: ScepticScot
Lets see what the traitors do if boris gets a deal.
Watch this space!
The traitors will reject it... because what they want is delay after delay leading to Remain.
If I were in Boris' shoes I would call a referendum with 2 options
1 Leave with his deal
2) Leave without a deal.
Leave the remain question out of it because it has already been answered by the People.
Pity poor Boris doesn't have enough support in parliament to call a referendum on anything.
Then why does Steptoe not want a GE?
Clue - could be cos according to polls he'd get slaughtered?
If fought on a 'brexit' manifesto polls show clear lead for remain. Result would depend on what agreements , if any, made between Tory/Brexit and labour/Libs/Green.
Er, no
Most people want to leave the EU according to the biggest Brexit poll since the 2016 referendum. Some 54% back the UK honouring the result and quitting the bloc, regardless of the way they voted three years ago.
The ComRes/Channel 5 survey of 26,000 voters showed 50% wanted out compared with just 42% who support Remain - a drop of 6% since the referendum. And when “don’t knows” are excluded, 54% say their preferred outcome is to leave against 46% who want to stay. The poll came as a group of cross party MPs travelled to Brussels to urge the EU to extend the Brexit deadline to give time for a second referendum.
See that last sentence - they're the hard core traitors... negotiating with the EU to extend at the same time we're trying to get a deal to leave.
As for an election. the Tories are surging. Now 15 points ahead of Labour.
Recent polls are not encouraging for opponents of Boris Johnson, and Brexit. A survey from Opinium, released at the weekend, gave the Conservatives 38%, a 15-point lead over Labour, who were on 23%, with the Liberal Democrats relegated to their comfort zone of 15%. Johnson, meanwhile, leads Jeremy Corbyn in the best leader stakes by a whopping 36% to 16%.
This poll?
www.theneweuropean.co.uk...
No, not that pile of wombat's doos, proper ones.
Is there a 'proper one' showing leave ahead?
Yeah - the one you found.
Know this : I find it truly hilarious that remainers (traitors), such as your traitor friendly NEwEuropena site, think they can spin the largest poll since the referendum with
"Oh look:
30% LEAVE with a deal
20% LEAVE without a deal
42% REMAIN
...ooooh remain wins!"
Thanks for the laugh.
Classic.
Only 20 % want no deal. Guess we should take that off the table.
...and LEAVE have an 8% lead over REMAIN.
Like I said, a 2nd referendum should be deal vs no deal. Leave vs Remain has already been answered and as the largest poll done since the 2016 referendum shows, LEAVE has even bigger support.
Only if you assume that second choice for the leave options is the other leave option.
Hilarious.
So you have three options - including one to remain and two to leave(with a deal or without a deal) and you think one of the two leave options is not really LEAVE???
Crikey, you really do spout some bullsh*t.
Leave WON fella, and the majority STILL want to leave. It's why the Tories are surging in the polls too. The British people are fed up with the traitors.
Every poll bar one I can find shows remain ahead. Suddenly you now believe the polls?
Many people will accept leaving with a deal but not leaving without. Unless you have a poll of second choice you can share?
Yes many people want to leave with a deal and they chose that option OVER Remain which was also an option in the poll.
In the poll, the largest we'd had:
50% chose LEAVE
42% chose REMAIN.
8% lead for LEAVE - a bigger margin than the 2016 Referendum.
Simple really.
And when asked a straight leave/remain remain consistently come out top.
That would suggest that many selecting leave with a deal would pick remain over leave without a deal.
It's not a binary choice and unless you have evidence of people second preference the popular option remains remain.
originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
And the DUP has just told Boris to naff off.
Looks like a Saturday sitting for a 'deal' that most MPs have not seen and do not approve of. So, in other words, same old same old. If I was a betting man (which I'm not) I would say that there's a very good chance that the Government will have to ask for another Article 50 extension beyond October 31.
originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
Deal just been done Barnier been briefing
UK and EU agree on new Brexit deal, Boris Johnson says
Negotiators from the U.K. and EU have reached a draft Brexit deal in the eleventh hour of talks and ahead of a crucial EU summit on Thursday. Sterling rose on news after the U.K. made concessions over the Irish border, an issue that had proven to be the biggest obstacle to a deal up to that point. Discussions to hammer out a “Withdrawal Agreement” — that will now be put before EU leaders at their summit on Thursday and Friday, and then U.K. lawmakers at the weekend — had continued late into the night Tuesday and into Wednesday.
originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
Question about this Eileen Foster and the DUP. Can someone explain in a couple of sentences to my simple brain what this lot have got issues with a deal being sorted as we can get on with our futures then?
originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
Question about this Eileen Foster and the DUP. Can someone explain in a couple of sentences to my simple brain what this lot have got issues with a deal being sorted as we can get on with our futures then?
.....now he can turn round and say when it comes to a general election that its parliament who are blocking any kind of progress. ...
We have concluded a deal. So there is not an argument for delay. It has to be done now
originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: stosh64
Boris is playing a bit of a blinder here I have to give it to him, he knows that the deal will never pass parliament, now he can turn round and say when it comes to a general election that its parliament who are blocking any kind of progress. He has put his opponents in a very difficult situation thats going to make it very difficult to argue in a General Election.
Will be interesting to see how it all plays out.