originally posted by: spf33
a reply to: A51Watcher
Apologies, I guess I was rushing ahead. I completely missed this post.
But, I believe your incorrect usage of PTM images was already fully addressed here:
Oh dear, going to play the Mick West card? Well ok if you insist, but actually you were doing better relying on your own knowledge.
A few quotes from Mick on the link you provided -
"I don't know the steps they used, but Here's some examples:"
His examples were created using Photoshop and do not look anything close to what PTM produces.
We agree he doesn't know the steps we used, because he has never used it, but instead he relies on using Photoshop which as explained before was
designed and is used to enhance photos much like the popular filters used on selfies. Photoshop has no use in Forensic Image Analysis.
The actual steps used were the ones always used and are a standard practice when using this technology.
"The actual "PTM" technique require multiple source images of the same object lit from different directions."
Here again Mick displays his lack of experience and ignorance of PTM technology.
Actually PTM does NOT require "multiple source images of the same object". Anyone who has ever used this software knows this to be false.
But being unfamiliar with a particular software or subject has never stopped Mick. He will take a shot at explaining anything no matter how shallow
his experience and knowledge may be.
Ever heard him say sorry I have no experience in that area?
No, and it is likely you never will. He is always willing to give it his best shot and bluff his way along trying to bamboozle with BS.
No one knows everything about everything, but Mick never lets that stop him.
That is my take on Mick but I will leave it to the actual professionals in this field to respond -
"I never heard of Mick West but he wrote some books about image manipulation. In 2018 he also wrote a piece about the videos of the Image Analysis
Team. Upon request by A51watcher I visited Metabunk.org. At first glance his elaborated comments give an impression of professionalism but having read
the article it casts a totally new light on how Mr. West arrived to his
Mr. West neither has a record of being an officially appointed video- and image forensic analyst nor is he an "official Photoshop expert". Without
these qualifications Mr. West is a Photoshop amateur and this is acknowledged by the way he operates his research methodology. Note that for a
complete data analysis the original file is required. Without an original file there is no analysis and the obtained evidence is unsubstantiated. I
understand that Mr. West tries to prove his point to SPF33 but why is he deliberately faking results? To sell more of his books?
Having read his video analysis in the article on: www.metabunk.org...
This is by no means a broad-based independent investigation and I like to make the following statements as Mr. West is comparing apples and
1. Mr. West does not possess the original file so his video analysis is totally useless.
We could stop here as the rest is irrelevant but for the sake of clarity we continue.
2. Mr. West used a completely irrelevant video. For his comparison he took an already compressed and by Youtube further compressed video.
This means that he used an already manipulated low quality video to be right.
3. You do not have to be an expert to notice that lighting conditions in both videos are uncomparible:
A) The Lazar video was totally dark with a bright shining UFO.
B) The New York at Night 1995 VHS video has light pollution.
There are multiple light sources near-, behind- and in front of the camera.
For proper analysis special attention should also be given to the following factors:
C) Camera angle and inclination?
D) Magnification used?
E) Type of lense?
F) Focus / shutter speed / other settings?
G) Light intensity?
H) Distance to the object?
I) Haze? Dust attenuates and scatters light reaching the lense.
J) Airturbulence at the time of recording?
K) Type of VHS camera was used? Quality? Decay of the tape?
L) Transferdate VHS to digital?
M) VHS original or copy?
O) Video format?
To conduct proper research all of the above items must be considered. Conditions have to be as similar as possible in order to reconstruct or
The only thing I have learned from this so-called video analysis is that Mr. West has absolutely no idea what he is doing but bluffs himself through
it. He uses irrelevant multiple compressed videomaterial from Youtube to proof his statement and therefore Mr. West disqualifies himself as an