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Tulsi Turns And Backs Trump Impeachment - How She Lost My Respect And Democrats My Loyalty

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posted on Sep, 27 2019 @ 08:52 PM
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a reply to: Bone75

Obviously we have very different sources of information here. Up until now I respected Tulsi, donated, and spoke on here behalf to attempt to gain her more traction. You can even look in the other thread I started today about the Ukraine and Biden story and see that I was defending her, was even vegging for the DNC to give her a chance. I'm not some Trump lover, the guy IS an as**ole and everyone knows it but no, he isn't the boogeyman, he hasn't done anything wrong, how can you say Trump is in the wrong here but in the same breath condone Biden's actions who's actions where far worse, manipulative, and could very well have caused long lasting damage to the country of Ukraine. If that money was withheld all of Ukraine could be occupied by Russia right now, on top of the the prosecutor he got fired, turns out he wasn't corrupt and was actually running a anti-corruption campaign to stop the massive amount of corruption that still plagues Ukraine today, this could've ended very different for that country if he hadn't done what he did. How many untold lives where taken away or run into ruin in the country due to the corruption that could've been stopped if it wasn't for Biden's son? This type of hypocrisy is what is driving moderates like myself from the Democrats. I hold a lot of liberal values but the brainwashing that's ongoing with the Democrats right now, the DNC itself and most of all manipulation of their constituents is beyond the pale. I beg you friend, stop and do some real unbiased digging, and I'm not saying try to find unbiased sources at this point because almost impossible in today's age, but just pay attention to the other side and what they are saying, the proof they provide counter to what our side is telling us, i promise your going to get really po'd when you realize the # they are feeding us, don't get me wrong you'll still get po'd at how the right manipulates their own as well but at the very least, I can say without question they are lieing less than our side now a days and it's a truly sad situation. Where did the morals, the ethical code, where on earth did our overriding compassion of the democrats for the forgotten people go? I feel like the Democrat party has reverted back to the the 1960's to the time where they lied, cheated, and threatened people because they still wanted segregation, they where still racists, this is what I feel like our party is coming to again they have just changed whom they direct it at and because it's not those whom we have spent so long protecting we just let it slide, slide past the point of no return and now we are only left with this hysteria.




posted on Sep, 27 2019 @ 08:57 PM
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I have said all along. Go to her website and read her policies. She's as far left as any of the others. She just has more eye appeal and a softer voice and her eyes don't bulge and she doesn't flail her arms like Beto, and she's not as emotionally impaired as Warren. But she is as left as they come. She milks the military thing.



posted on Sep, 27 2019 @ 09:01 PM
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originally posted by: queenofswords
I have said all along. Go to her website and read her policies. She's as far left as any of the others. She just has more eye appeal and a softer voice and her eyes don't bulge and she doesn't flail her arms like Beto, and she's not as emotionally impaired as Warren. But she is as left as they come. She milks the military thing.


The difference in Tulsi has been her integrity and the respect she has commanded. She has always been far left, but she holds her views honestly and hasn't played dirty politics and worked across the aisle. She isn't a bought corporatist and is against the reigning never-ending war paradigm endorsed by both parties.

This was pretty disappointing though.



posted on Sep, 27 2019 @ 09:13 PM
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originally posted by: stosh64
This is who Tulsi is. She tries to hide it but no one should be surprised. She is a typical progressive.

Support a ban on assault weapons
The Electoral College should be eliminated
Free College
$15 min wage
Reparations need studying
Student Debt-Expand or fix existing debt-relief programs
Support closing down existing nuclear power reactors
Abortion-Few limits, if any
Medicare for All
Slash the defense budget
politico
There are some issues I agree with her on but quite a few of those listed above are deal breakers.


Thank-you for the summary! I had no idea Tulsi was THAT extreme. She's military, and for slashing the defense budget? REALLY?



posted on Sep, 27 2019 @ 09:31 PM
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a reply to: tulsi

The word is probably. Not prolly.



posted on Sep, 27 2019 @ 09:32 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: tulsi

The word is probably. Not prolly.


The word is blackmail 😀



posted on Sep, 27 2019 @ 09:35 PM
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originally posted by: HonorablyTainted
MY RANT

I have been an adamant supporter of Tulsi if for no other reason than she spoke out against big tech censorship, has a respectable hard line non-interventionist view on foreign policy, she is Active Duty as a Major in the armed forces


I wouldn't be to hard on her; she's a small fry and she knows it. Sometimes you just have to do what the boss says so that you can keep on keeping on.

We've all been there at some point or another; lucky for most of us our lives are not in the spot light.

Right now and for the last few years the Democrat party have had a single minded agenda and nothing was going to stand in its way. Not even Tulsi; she could choose to go along with it or go home; she chose to stick around. If you really did believe those things about her before today; than I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss her; because it sounds like the Democrat party needs more people like her not less; than maybe they would get passed the single mindedness that is helping to ruin our country.



posted on Sep, 27 2019 @ 09:38 PM
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a reply to: queenofswords

yeah I noticed that as well.

Like McCain always did as well.


Those that can, do; Those that can't, teach; Those that can't teach, go into politics.

As much physical appeal as Tulsi has, who to say she is not the anti-Christ?

Does the Anti-Christ have to be male? The "mirror" image would be cross gender hence female.



posted on Sep, 27 2019 @ 09:47 PM
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originally posted by: Oraculi
And Sanders is still trucking on, true to his core.

He stated he was old school and will wait for all evidence before making a judgement. He's not perfect, but if there is one thing you can say about him it's consistent.


Or full of sh1t, he proved that when he pissed all over his message of anti corruption by endorsing hillary.

She never really appealed to me and came accross to me as very scripted like hillary. Also besides being a vet she had nothing to offer and being a vet isnt much in the political world. We have had plenty worthless vets as politicians like mcstain
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posted on Sep, 27 2019 @ 10:48 PM
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originally posted by: HonorablyTainted
Tulsi has just come out in favor of the Impeachment of a duly elected President for no other real reason than the far left Democrat vendetta against the will of the American people. You don't have to like the President but you MUST respect the will of the people (eerily similar to what is occurring with our UK neighbors over Brexit), the Democratic system, and the office of the President otherwise what the he'll are we even doing here? What's the point of even discussing things? He'll let's just toss the whole damn country out if this is however are gonna do it, let's not puss foot around it anymore.


By that logic no president should ever be impeached. Ever. Is that what you want?



posted on Sep, 27 2019 @ 11:14 PM
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a reply to: links234

No obviously not. Present REAL undeniable evidence of something substantial enough to warrant it. The criteria for impeachment needs to be exceeded, there should be no denying what occurred, no holes in the story, you should have full partisan support if there is a real need to impeach a president. It was a joke to impeach Clinton, but what is happening with Trump is far, far, far worse. You literally have the Democrats in the house after the Mueller report fell apart didn't even have a reason to be investigating Trump, they didn't care about evidence, they investigated him on a whim because they hate him all in the hopes of possibly finding something to pin on him and that's honestly a slap in the face to every American because that just isn't how due process and judicial system works. Everything they do now is tainted by their stupidity. Because of this even if they ever actually did find something, a real impeachable crime, the majority of the country wouldn't even believe them. Now they are going to try and use a story that incriminate Biden not Trump to impeach Trump. There really is beginning to be a crisis here in the US but it isn't Trumps story per se, it's a crisis of constitutional and ethical integrity of out democratic system and it's only the house democrats and the media to blame. It's disgusting, I don't like him either but this is unethical, immoral, and disastrous for our nation.



posted on Sep, 28 2019 @ 01:10 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen




The best chance goes to HRC. Wait for it.😬


HRC?!?

NFW!!

Let me repeat and emphasize - No. Flocking. Way.

I typically like or at least respect most people - even politicians who's positions I don't agree with. I won't vote for them, but I respect them for trying to do...umm...something.

Not HRC though. I have a visceral dislike for her. She's a corrupt, thieving, morally bankrupt POS. I'll never forget Benghazi, her "missing" personal email servers containing *classified information* or the way HRC and BIll fleeced millions from the Haitian Relief Fund through their "charity" [cough, cough] - the Clinton Foundation.

The kindest thing I can say about her is that she's a complete waste of a pair of shoes.

Although it would be deliciously funny to watch her get her ass handed to her in yet another national election.

Hmm...come to think of it - I believe the DNC *should* put her up as a candidate against Trump. Hell, I'll even buy the popcorn and beer for everyone here on election night!

What's a Tulsi, btw...
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posted on Sep, 28 2019 @ 01:30 AM
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originally posted by: HonorablyTainted
MY RANT

I have been an adamant supporter of Tulsi if for no other reason than she spoke out against big tech censorship, has a respectable hard line non-interventionist view on foreign policy, she is Active Duty as a Major in the Armed Forces, and she always gave the impression she wouldn't just bow to ideologies she didn't actually believe in, unfortunately the last portion was just a lie, an illusion, a #ing farce.
I never cared for her domestic policy, I had hoped that once in the position it might temper her views when she finally witnessed the reality of the world, but unfortunately she has now bought hook line and sinker into the same type of narrative she had previously spoken out against.

Tulsi has just come out in favor of the Impeachment of a duly elected President for no other real reason than the far left Democrat vendetta against the will of the American people. You don't have to like the President but you MUST respect the will of the people (eerily similar to what is occurring with our UK neighbors over Brexit), the Democratic system, and the office of the President otherwise what the he'll are we even doing here? What's the point of even discussing things? He'll let's just toss the whole damn country out if this is however are gonna do it, let's not puss foot around it anymore. The radicals in this party have stolen it from the rest of us. Hijacked the party and they are running it straight into the ground, supporting all out socialist Marxist government, allowing the freedom of speech for Americans to be trounced on, wanting to take away Americans ability to protect themselves, and now on top of all of it they have clearly infected Tulsi with the same virul plague of the political correct socialist bigotry of the radicalized far left. Well it cost you my vote, it's has cost you many others previously and will cost you even more between now and the next election. You crossed a line DNC, you made your bed when you took away the last decent candidate and continue to try and push some ridiculous coup d'etat upon a duly elected president all because you can't accept your previous platforms sucked, your candidates sucked and he won. Well now you just forfeited the next election as well, you'll never get a full impeachment past the Senate and you know it anyways. You took the only half decent candidate you had running in your primary and ruined her. You lost me, you lost this election, you lost your fu**ing minds.

Tulsi Turns And Backs Impeachment


www.foxnews.com...
Excuse me but a Republican news source for Democratic Candidate who oposses Pollution, shows me how deep YOU are All in for the party. The Women took a firehose at Standing Rock in Subzero temperatures to Protect land and water. Her individual preference is not reliant upon the parties approval. Her party didnt even give lip service to the event.



posted on Sep, 28 2019 @ 01:31 AM
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a reply to: HonorablyTainted

These people don't deserve respect or loyalty, they don't offer any in return so why a person would in the first place is interesting to say the least.



posted on Sep, 28 2019 @ 01:46 AM
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a reply to: 2ndTenor




Excuse me but a Republican news source for Democratic Candidate who oposses Pollution, shows me how deep YOU are All in for the party. The Women took a firehose at Standing Rock in Subzero temperatures to Protect land and water. Her individual preference is not reliant upon the parties approval. Her party didnt even give lip service to the event.


Welcome aboard 2ndTenor!

I see you've been a registered member here for 4 days and this is your 3rd post.

In the interest of human kindness, my advice to you is to strap on the armor. You picked a doozy of a thread for your 3rd post to espouse a...ahem...unpopular viewpoint. I hope you're not thin-skinned.


Unless of course you're actually Tulsi herself creating a bogus account to back your position [gasp!]



Let the good times roll...



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posted on Sep, 28 2019 @ 02:26 AM
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i liked tulsi
until i found out she was c--f--r

then, thats it, its over.
unfollowed her on twitter, not that it matters lol.



posted on Sep, 28 2019 @ 07:23 AM
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originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
I respected her opinion before this and respect it now. I have been against impeachment all along but these recent disclosures are pushing me towards it as well. Weighing the balance of positives and negatives is difficult. Do we risk dividing the nation further by impeachment or risk the total destruction of our political structure by allowing this self serving mad man to continue on.


I am still of the opinion that if Trump breaks the law, he needs to be punished. But in this instance, I think Biden's part needs to be understood before we pass judgement on Trump. If Biden was doing what it appeared he and Obama did, then it was self serving on Biden's part and to me, would make what Trump did almost imperative. How would you let that information lay stagnant when he is running for the highest office in the land?

But if Biden was on the Up and Up, then that would make Trump look as bad as the initial report. I wonder how many others think like that?



posted on Sep, 28 2019 @ 09:49 AM
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originally posted by: HonorablyTainted
a reply to: links234

No obviously not. Present REAL undeniable evidence of something substantial enough to warrant it.


I feel as thought the whistleblower's report coupled with the White House, essentially, corroborating the report with their own information seems to be "REAL undeniable evidence".

If we're to believe that what the White House released was the best evidence they have of no wrong-doing then whatever they didn't release could be far worse.



posted on Sep, 28 2019 @ 10:16 AM
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I don't know why this surprises you? This is a political move she was probably advised to do, and to show her support for her party system she has to play along if she is really serious about the nomination this election, or any future ones she enters.

This "IMPEACH" chatter will not go anywhere and is only a defensive position taken by the Democrats before the coming election. When the Russian collusion debacle comes up this will be the defense used. The damage has already been done, there is no need for impeachment and that is why the attempt is so weak. Tulsi probably realizes this as well, and regardless whether she advances or not, the goal is to get Trump out of office any means necessary and put a Democrat in.

Do we really forget how dirty the political system is?



posted on Sep, 28 2019 @ 12:02 PM
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I respect that opinion Dude, both to Biden as well as Trump. If Biden used his clout as VP to secure a position for his son in Ukraine then that is nepotism which should have no place in or government. In a manner that is one of the reasons that I did not like Mrs. Clinton in government service in ANY FORM. Use of not only her husbands name but continuing political clout to me was just wrong. Note is said ''one of the reasons''.

This stance of mine holds with Trump as well. Ivanka and her husband should not be part of his administration nor be working on international affairs for him. As well, this goes back decades and why I never would have supported Ted Kennedy had he run.

But as to Trump and Biden, well, yes I can see Trump making Biden's possible involvement in Ukraine a viable national election point. The voters should know of these allegations. However.....

When this call was made, Biden was not the D nominee, he was one of many running for that nomination. So, had he won that nomination would it not have been smarter on Trump's part to just wait? Wait until the whole of the D Party was locked into Biden? Then at that point make those allegations public and have public pressure move either the msm or the conservative press to investigate it and further tarnish Biden? To me this would have been smarter.

But he didn't. And rather than letting just course make it's way with Biden, Trump made this call to a one time comic and so called pressured him to ''look into Biden''. That, if proved, was crossing the line.

For me though, Biden was never a serious candidate. He has been tarnished to much already. Notice how long it took him to jump in and declare his candidacy? He knows about his baggage and as well knows that his only claim to viability is on Obama's coat tails. To me, Biden was never more than a red herring, drawing attention to himself all the while other candidates scurried around doing grassroots work.

HIs swelling support was transitory at best, that being his name recognition with Obama. And while that ''cover'' worked for a while we can see now that his imperfections have caught up with him and he is falling in the polls. But back when that phone call was made, it was way to early. The only threat that Biden presented at that time was not a threat to the American people but the perceived threat he posed to Trump in Trump's own mind.

Even as I say these things as if it is the way it is, please understand that this is merely how I personally see it all.

And now we have this ''special server'' to which we find that Trump et all have been storing at least the real transcripts of that call. Trump has claimed that that call was perfect and for the most part just pleasantries. If so, why move it to an even more secure server. Just what highly classified information might have been brought up in this phone call that even Trump admits was open to many listeners. It makes no sense to me other than that he is trying to cover up his own errors.

But back to Gabbard. She held out against impeachment inquiries for the good of the nation. At this point I still do not back impeachment even though I have a very poor impression of Trump.

While some may just easily claim that she has been bought out or that she was pressured by the D machine, it is my contention that she has just come to a personal evaluation of just what would be worse for the country, to not impeach or to allow Trump to continue with his skulduggery.




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