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How do you Unite a fractured nation?

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posted on Oct, 1 2019 @ 01:52 AM
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originally posted by: Advantage

a reply to: harold223


This is straight out of the academic textbooks mate, not my opinion.

Well, after the great new civil war Im sure toilet tissue will be scarce, but I wont be at a loss of material for arse patting. Universities are full of "academic textbooks" and I will be sure that those will be my TP. It will be very self satisfying to use those books of nonsense as they are intended.


I see, an anti intellectual. Intellectuals are one of the first to be attacked by tyrants, always. You'd no doubt like to burn said books. I'm out.
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posted on Oct, 1 2019 @ 02:03 AM
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originally posted by: harold223

originally posted by: Advantage

a reply to: harold223


This is straight out of the academic textbooks mate, not my opinion.

Well, after the great new civil war Im sure toilet tissue will be scarce, but I wont be at a loss of material for arse patting. Universities are full of "academic textbooks" and I will be sure that those will be my TP. It will be very self satisfying to use those books of nonsense as they are intended.


I see, an anti intellectual. Intellectuals are one of the first to be attacked by tyrants, always. You'd no doubt like to burn said books. I'm out.


Holy cow.. you sure got me all figured out!
..and yes, Id definitely burn those textbooks after being used. No trash pick up after the civil war Id imagine. Only polite to burn the refuse.


P.S.
For an intellectual, your flounce was very weak.



posted on Oct, 1 2019 @ 03:06 AM
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So amongst this pompous diatribe what do we do about an infected hegemony of delusional consequences?



posted on Oct, 1 2019 @ 04:22 AM
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The answer to the question in the title of this thread is the same as for world unity, and further elaborated on in the videos, or songs, at the end of this comment. So a little background information regarding world unity may be in order first.

Whatever Happened to World Unity? (2005)

“For the first time since World War II the international community is united. . . . The world can therefore seize this opportunity to fulfill the long-held promise of a new world order.”

SO SAID a president of the United States in the last decade of the 20th century. At that time, international events seemed to suggest that world unity was on the horizon. Totalitarian governments fell one after another. The Berlin Wall came down, signaling a new era for Europe. The Soviet Union, viewed by many in the West as an instigator of global conflicts, disappeared before the eyes of an astonished world. The Cold War came to an end, and there was optimistic talk about disarmament, including nuclear disarmament. Granted, war broke out in the Persian Gulf, but that seemed to be just a momentary blip that left much of the world more determined to pursue a peaceful order.

Positive signs could be seen not only on the political front but also in other areas of life. ...

Today, not many years later, we cannot help but ask: ‘What happened? Where is the promised world unity?’ If anything, the world seems to be moving in the opposite direction. Suicide bombings, terrorist attacks, the reported proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, and other disturbing developments have become regular features of published news. Such events appear to be pushing the world further and further away from unity. One prominent financier recently said: “We are becoming enmeshed in a vicious circle of escalating violence.”

World Unity or Global Fragmentation?

... There is no doubt that many of the efforts for peace have been sincere and well-meant. In spite of this, world unity seems unattainable. Many are left wondering: ‘Why does world unity remain so elusive? Where is the world heading?’

Next page: Where Is the World Heading?

In October 2003, world security issues were discussed by Pacific Rim nations at the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) summit held in Thailand. The 21 nations present pledged to dismantle terrorist groups and agreed on ways to increase global security. Yet, during the conference several representatives grumbled about one prime minister’s remarks, which were said to be a hate-filled attack on the Jews.

Though there is a lot of talk about unifying the world, we see few concrete results. Despite the sincere efforts of many, why has world unity continued to elude mankind into the 21st century?

Part of the answer is reflected in the comments of one of the prime ministers who attended the APEC conference. He said, “There is this thing called national pride.” Yes, human society is steeped in nationalism. Each nation and ethnic group is driven by the desire for self-determination. National sovereignty combined with the spirit of competition and greed has produced a volatile mix. In one case after another, when national interests conflict with global interests, national interests win out.

Nationalism is well described by the psalmist’s expression, “the pestilence causing adversities.” (Psalm 91:3) It has been like a plague on humanity, leading to untold suffering. Nationalism with its resultant hatred of other peoples has existed for centuries. Today, nationalism continues to fan the flames of divisiveness, and human rulers have not been able to stop it.

Many authorities recognize that nationalism and self-interest are the root of the world’s problems. For example, former United Nations Secretary-General U Thant observed: “So many of the problems that we face today are due to, or the result of, false attitudes . . . Among these is the concept of narrow nationalism​—‘my country, right or wrong.’” Still, nations today, engrossed in self-interest, are clamoring more and more for their own sovereignty. Those who have the advantage do not wish to give up even a little of it. For example, the International Herald Tribune made this observation about the European Union: “Rivalry and mistrust remain basic patterns of European politics. For most EU member states, it is still unacceptable for one of their peers to gain greater influence and take the lead.”

God’s Word, the Bible, correctly describes the result of all human rule, saying: “Man has dominated man to his injury.” (Ecclesiastes 8:9) By breaking the world up into their own separate dominions and political movements, groups of men as well as individuals have experienced the fulfillment of this Bible principle: “One isolating himself will seek his own selfish longing; against all practical wisdom he will break forth.”​—Proverbs 18:1.

Our Creator, who knows what is best for us, never purposed for humans to set up their own governments and rule themselves. By doing so, men have ignored God’s purpose and the fact that everything belongs to him. God is the rightful Sovereign to whom all should look for rulership. By pursuing their own sovereignties and political advancements for their respective movements, the nations and politicians are working against his will.​—Psalm 2:2; 95:3-5. And they are falling right into the trap of God's adversary, who frequently uses the 'divide and conquer'-tactic to get what he wants from mankind. Ignore him, his influence and his tactics at your own peril.




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posted on Oct, 1 2019 @ 07:16 PM
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originally posted by: thedigirati
the only way this is resolved is with blood, sorry but it's true.

think about Kent State and the 60's war movement, with out that blood, the country as a whole would not have changed and come together.


without a blood sacrifice, this does not end, do I like it, hell no

it's just the facts.


LoL.. this site is a never ending source of amusement.

Trump has riled you folks into a lather. It's amusing to hear Trump supporter start and then chime in about a united nation, when Trump has been the catalyst for much of the division. You must be blind to not see it. The degradation, the insults, creating enemies for his followers - basically anyone who doesn't kiss Trump's butt. Don't even start that others bring Trump to that point. He ha been doing it for decades, it's his personality.

Trump is -the- reason the nation is as divided as it is right now. Talk about blinders.. wow.



posted on Oct, 1 2019 @ 07:26 PM
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a reply to: fleabit

So the nation was united under Obama?



posted on Oct, 1 2019 @ 07:57 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy
More united than now?..as an outsider looking in, I would say yes!


edit on 1-10-2019 by vonclod because: Im an outsider looking in, not an insider..doh



posted on Oct, 1 2019 @ 08:04 PM
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originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: DBCowboy
More united than now?..as an insider looking in, I would say yes!



Really.

How would you measure it?

I hope not based on the media.



posted on Oct, 1 2019 @ 08:37 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy
Hmm, no doubt the media has amped things up, but I take the media with a grain of salt..always have. I agree it's hard to quantify, I just don't feel I have ever seen people so divided. I'm sure though, there were times it was worse, the civil rights movement, Vietnam..etc.

With Obama's 1st term..I believe that there was some sense of "hope and change" by the 2nd term..well, you know.


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posted on Oct, 1 2019 @ 08:46 PM
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originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: DBCowboy
More united than now?..as an insider looking in, I would say yes!



you would be sorta correct too, the Republicans and Conservatives and Independants did not lose there

"stuff" over Obama like the the Left/Democrats/Progressives have lost there "stuff" over Trump.

It's not Trump that is the problem.

It's the reaction to President Trump. the left/democrats/progressives took it personal this time.

they didn't win nor get a participation trophy.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



posted on Oct, 1 2019 @ 08:48 PM
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In just 38 seconds, President Trump tells us why he left a life of luxury and fun, to help all Americans and our future generations.
Donald John Trump is THE CHOSEN ONE.



posted on Oct, 2 2019 @ 12:12 AM
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originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: DBCowboy
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With Obama's 1st term..I believe that there was some sense of "hope and change" by the 2nd term..well, you know.

It's probably a good idea to work on not being so susceptible to slogans like that.

The Manipulation of Information: Awake!—2000

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Slogans and Symbols

Slogans are vague statements that are typically used to express positions or goals. Because of their vagueness, they are easy to agree with.

For example, in times of national crisis or conflict, demagogues may use such slogans as “My country, right or wrong,” “Fatherland, Religion, Family,” or “Freedom or Death.” But do most people carefully analyze the real issues involved in the crisis or conflict? Or do they just accept what they are told?

In writing about World War I, Winston Churchill observed: “Only a signal is needed to transform these multitudes of peaceful peasants and workmen into the mighty hosts which will tear each other to pieces.” He further observed that when told what to do, most people responded unthinkingly.

The propagandist also has a very wide range of symbols and signs with which to convey his message—a 21-gun salvo, a military salute, a flag. Love of parents can also be exploited. Thus, such symbolisms as the fatherland, the mother country, or the mother church are valuable tools in the hands of the shrewd persuader.

So the sly art of propaganda can paralyze thought, prevent clear thinking and discernment, and condition individuals to act en masse. How can you protect yourself?
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Next page: Do Not Be a Victim of Propaganda! Awake!—2000
Which discusses how you can protect yourself from the types of people that the Bible calls “profitless talkers” and “deceivers of the mind”? (Titus 1:10) Which would include any politician (or media lobbyist usually referred to as a news reporter, both at Fox News or CNN for example).
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posted on Oct, 2 2019 @ 12:28 AM
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originally posted by: carewemust
In just 38 seconds, President Trump tells us why he left a life of luxury and fun, to help all Americans and our future generations.
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Donald John Trump is THE CHOSEN ONE.

Sarcasm? I can't tell anymore because some people actually do seem to believe both statements, but it remains so unreal even with millions of people believing that or expressing such beliefs/opinions. It's hard to believe that anyone could fall for such notions, but I guess it's a bit similar to the way that many Chinese or North Koreans have fallen for the notion that their political leader or government has their best interests in mind rather than their own. Propaganda also being such a key-factor in this in these countries.

Propaganda encourages this by agitating the emotions, by exploiting insecurities, by capitalizing on the ambiguity of language, and by bending rules of logic. As history bears out, such tactics can prove all too effective.



posted on Oct, 2 2019 @ 05:12 AM
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You commit a huge false flag. Bombing or something big that takes alot of American lives to make people have a common ground and a common enemy. It Really brings us all together everytime.....



posted on Oct, 2 2019 @ 05:22 AM
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originally posted by: SheThang81
You commit a huge false flag. Bombing or something big that takes alot of American lives to make people have a common ground and a common enemy. It Really brings us all together everytime.....




Wisdom ,well that's seldom seen on ats these days.

War brings people togethor, nothing like a common enemy to invigorate and unite the plebs.



posted on Oct, 2 2019 @ 05:25 AM
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originally posted by: carewemust
In just 38 seconds, President Trump tells us why he left a life of luxury and fun, to help all Americans and our future generations.
Donald John Trump is THE CHOSEN ONE.




If you really believe what you just posted, can you show us just what luxuries and fun he's given up to make our lives better



posted on Oct, 3 2019 @ 04:03 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

IMO it is nearly impossible. Short of the far left agreeing to stop attacking enumerated Constitutional rights and some among the right agreeing to stop seeking to impose their personal values/opinions through force of law, I would hazard a guess that it is quite impossible

The sad part is, what comes next? Peaceful dissolution? Violent? Either way, those of us with the most to lose do so and instantly become a sh#hole country over night. All because the far left is jealous, bitter, petty and petulant about losing an election fair and square.

I only hope the history books serve as a stark reminder to those in the future who even consider flirting with that moronic and self-destructive ideology (mob rule democracy, socialism, leftism, etc) that has killed more than cancer.



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