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How do you Unite a fractured nation?

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posted on Sep, 29 2019 @ 10:07 PM
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a reply to: TheRedneck

You’re harshing the fantasy Civil War buzz by telling them the truth.




posted on Sep, 29 2019 @ 10:09 PM
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a reply to: Ahabstar

Somebody has to.

TheRedneck



posted on Sep, 29 2019 @ 10:24 PM
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a reply to: TheRedneck

The South will rise.

Again?


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posted on Sep, 29 2019 @ 10:41 PM
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a reply to: TheRedneck

That's the great tragedy. It's always worse than people think it will be because the great mass of people lack real imagination which is why they are also so easily led.

Most folks lack either the ability or fortitude to think in depth about something and really grasp what it would mean in more than a few shallow facets.

As Thomas Sowell says, they think from A to B in two dimensions without being able to extrapolate beyond from B to C and further, seeing the ripples as nothing more than separate problems in their own right rather than direct consequences of A and caused by it, connected to it.

So, yeah, there actually are people who think a Second Civil War would be easy peezey lemon squeezy with the cities triumphing over those dumb yokels in the sticks in a matter of hours or days. The reality would be a lot more complicated and messy and far less cut and dried than they think, likely much longer too.



posted on Sep, 29 2019 @ 10:59 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

This has been obvious since the 2016 election. There will be no uniting. There will be blood. Hopefully only a little. But it's the only way.

Think about it. Do you believe you can convince a modern day millennial socialist that they're wrong about 90% of what they believe? Will you ever be convinced they're right?

So I guess there are two paths forward:
1) attempt to preserve freedom and liberty at the cost of a bloody civil war.
2) accept socialism and becoming slaves to the globalist elite.

The only possible 3rd option is a complete overhaul of the education system in the US and some sort of anti-socialist constitutional amendment.



posted on Sep, 29 2019 @ 11:59 PM
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a reply to: olaru12
Ah. You all are exaggerating. All of this blue team and red team, or liberal and republican. Civil war? Are you kidding me. You cut off these pretentious full grown children with to much time on there hands and all highly opinionated and all wanting to be the center of attention and all trying to fit the triangle piece into the round hole.

Do you know what would happen in a civil war, there paychecks would stop for one, and they may actually have to get up and do some actual work, there cushy do nothing jobs will be over, instead of bitching about this or that and tit for tat. # MacDonalds or shipping goods from china may even close for a week or two, and half of them will starve to death.

If anything Civil War may be a good thing. But anybody that even thinks on it for a second knows its just redundant, and whats worse, half these people up in arms or so opinionated don't have the balls or the fortitude to even put a toe over that line, its all just a bunch of hot air. That's what this whole thing is, hot air, and its not even enough to fill a balloon.


And if your so influenced by words on a screen or people talking into a boob box. You got bigger issues. You can play pretend, or you can pretend to play. Either way the game is stupid, and the prizes are also stupid. I for one dont even have time to waste on thinking about it. As far as I can see. Just more none issues, from a whole sleuth and groups of people who have no real issues, and to much time and are to well feed.

If anything, they can all benefit from having more issues, give them something to do. This is the sum part of this unconscious need for uniting. As if, maybe you all can unite on the next Americas idol over who is the bestest host ever, Ryan Seacrest or that other guy. Maybe everybody can unite over that.

Or if not, pretty sure every group and corp out there has there own idea on what you all should unite over. Anything from war in Iran, to vaccines, to the magic underpants people and there ideas for global utopia, to? well? To tell the truth, Likley they will run out of ideas on things that would make them a few million to billion dollars, long long before the one true uniter arrives to save the day for you all.

Or hell maybe we can go to the moon again, maybe that will unite people or whatever. But you know, just as soon as NASA remembers how to do it again since they forgot and lost all data from the first time around, everybody always give then gripe over that. But I say, # happens.

Or hell maybe we can go to Mars, maybe that will unite people. But considering that maybe, they still haven't figured out how to pass the van allen belt safely, may not be as great an idea as the magic underpants people have and may actually kill less people.

Or excuse me, the latter day saints. Forgot they changed there name and brand a while ago. About time they upgraded, even coke and pepsi changed there brand to catch up with the times like ages ago.

So whats uniting, and how many do you need? As it can be arranged, and in a snip. Pretty sure there is a long list stretching miles of people and groups and interests, who will have it down to a T on how it should go down and what it is everybody should do from the moment they wake up till they go to sleep.

Because thats what uniting is in reality. Its what every side is clamoring about, uniting everybody under there banner and ways, and profit margins. Lets at the least be a little bit real here.

And the truth is that any one of them would be equally as inept as the other at even doing that. May a well flip a coin on it, even if they had the ultimate power of making legislature and putting non stop boring shows on medias all day and all night for 10 thousand years. Even at that they would fail. Like a gagle of retarted ducks who think they have it all figured out. And they all have at the least a 10 lines of dialogue before they cap off and enter the repeat system.

There's freaking videogames from the Atari that has NPC with more dialogue lines then that. Now how pathetic is that?

You know not one of them has even lasted but a few generations at most, and not even that. Once again, more people and groups and interests, with extremely bad resumes at global domination.

Now what you all are talking about is something that is not really reality, more like an idea, or ideology, or utopia. Or as I like to call it...A theory. The theory that everybody is united. An interesting theory. But still just a theory.

What are you a commie? Sounds like commie ideology to me. Get out here with that #. The only thing people should be uniting over is there favorite American idol winner. If that show is still around. Because on everything else its an illogical fallacy, some people like pepsi and some people like coke, and that aint going to change.

And so, till everybody becomes one borg body and one borg mind, under the impetus of the gray hive queen or whoever.

Till then. Its a complete and impossible fallacy.

Besides, not to sure that civilization is a good idea in the first place. So? Meh, let the chips fall were they may. And if the world comes to an end over what is essentially a gopher farting in the wind? Oh well, sure there were some things I would miss. But meh! Not really. Ain't exactly something that I will miss. And I think a whole lot of people would feel the same way.

Much ado about nothing. But like I said. A lot of hot air and you all know it. May as well watch a documentary on the finer points of how fast grass grows, all brought to you and filmed in real time. As it would be time better spent.



posted on Sep, 30 2019 @ 12:00 AM
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a reply to: ketsuko

I know several people around here who harbor that same fantasy. Sure, if I am given warning that an approaching army is coming, I can hole up and pick them off easily enough. But that's not going to happen, and it seems to be difficult for some to understand that.

I blame the fact that the United States has been protected by geographic borders from the rest of the world; 911 was the first attack on American soil since Pearl Harbor, and that was not only a long, long time ago, but far, far away from the mainland. We have forgotten what war is. We only remember war through romanticized movies and video games.

That's why I make the statement that I will be sitting this one out when it comes. Anyone who steps foot on my land that I don't recognize as friendly is foe and will be treated as such. I can cover the entire visible valley area from my treeline, and I have structures inside that treeline. I also know how to booby-trap the mountain to prevent entry through it. And even then, I know well that I could be one of the first casualties... there are no guarantees.

I find myself wishing there was a way to take the mental engrams from the last moments of those who have died in war and integrate them into the consciousness of the living... maybe then people would understand.

TheRedneck



posted on Sep, 30 2019 @ 12:18 AM
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a reply to: TheRedneck

It will certainly be a much different civil war from the past. I don't think guns will be the weapon of choice either. Sure, they'll get used plenty, but I think poison and other forms of murder will be the prominent methods.
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posted on Sep, 30 2019 @ 12:23 AM
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a reply to: Dfairlite

Juul?

It's begun?

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posted on Sep, 30 2019 @ 12:30 AM
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a reply to: Phage

Sure.



posted on Sep, 30 2019 @ 01:36 AM
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Mend a fractured populace? Unite them into having one common goal?? When I asked my husband this, he said he was taught that the best way to do this is bomb it into them.


As far as a civil war, what a horrible thing to fantasize about. I want to loot big box stores, shoot things and eat GORP'n'Skittles while running to or from an enemy. The Zombie Apocalypse or Invasion fantasies are much better. The civil war thing isnt any fun cause people will be shooting AKs and handguns and etc at MRAPS driven by your local officer friendlies and whatever side gets the goodies/whatever side gets the PTB nod. Its like playing a game you can only lose. Then you have to consider the majority of the young fighters that need cry rooms and woobies. Woobies are cool, but not in classrooms for anyone over elementary. Those little monsters will turn you in for a latte or some wifi.



posted on Sep, 30 2019 @ 02:25 AM
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Before the interwebs most people didn't interact with people of other political parties much. Most people were surrounded by like minded people.

I'm from Detroit and I have a strong accent. 20 years ago I was in Florida with my mom visiting my grandmother. My mom and I were at a bar. She was having a couple drinks and I was playing pool.

Some guy called us Yankee's. I was kinda perplexed. I thought to myself what is this the 1800's? are we still fighting the civil war?

I traveled the south a bit as a kid and there is still a lot of resentment over the civil war. In the north no one cares we don't drive around union flags on our license plates. Or fly them at our state capitals.

No one here is worried the government is coming after our guns or bibles. I know a lot liberal sportsmen that hunt and own guns.



posted on Sep, 30 2019 @ 02:51 AM
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Some guy called us Yankee's. I was kinda perplexed. I thought to myself what is this the 1800's? are we still fighting the civil war?

I traveled the south a bit as a kid and there is still a lot of resentment over the civil war. In the north no one cares we don't drive around union flags on our license plates. Or fly them at our state capitals.

I don't think any Confederate Generals made marches through the North, destroying families, entire communities, even trying to destroy entire cities. I also don't think our people went up there after the war and tried to literally steal land from the wounded soldiers for pennies on the dollar.

That takes a long, long time to get over. But it's not so much hate any more but distrust. Just don't mention your last name if it is Sherman.


No one here is worried the government is coming after our guns or bibles. I know a lot liberal sportsmen that hunt and own guns.

I thought y'all had TV up there? Did no one watch the Democratic Debates?

TheRedneck



posted on Sep, 30 2019 @ 04:35 AM
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originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: DBCowboy



The only possible 3rd option is a complete overhaul of the education system in the US and some sort of anti-socialist constitutional amendment.


Serious question (despite the fact that I do not believe there are any actual socialist parties standing for textbook socialism in the US)

Hypothetically speaking, what if the majority (say... 51%) democratically votes for socialism. Are you saying that that should not be allowed, even if it is what people vote for?
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posted on Sep, 30 2019 @ 04:36 AM
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posted on Sep, 30 2019 @ 05:01 AM
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originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: wantsome


Some guy called us Yankee's. I was kinda perplexed. I thought to myself what is this the 1800's? are we still fighting the civil war?

I traveled the south a bit as a kid and there is still a lot of resentment over the civil war. In the north no one cares we don't drive around union flags on our license plates. Or fly them at our state capitals.

I don't think any Confederate Generals made marches through the North, destroying families, entire communities, even trying to destroy entire cities. I also don't think our people went up there after the war and tried to literally steal land from the wounded soldiers for pennies on the dollar.

That takes a long, long time to get over. But it's not so much hate any more but distrust. Just don't mention your last name if it is Sherman.


No one here is worried the government is coming after our guns or bibles. I know a lot liberal sportsmen that hunt and own guns.

I thought y'all had TV up there? Did no one watch the Democratic Debates?

TheRedneck
So what it was 100 years ago. Maybe we should give Texas back to Mexico.
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posted on Sep, 30 2019 @ 05:46 AM
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Hypothetically speaking, what if the majority (say... 51%) democratically votes for socialism. Are you saying that that should not be allowed, even if it is what people vote for?


Well that depends on what you mean. What do they vote for? A socialist program (say, government run healthcare)? Or a full overhaul of the US government to meet the requirements of implementing full on socialist principles?

The former, it could maybe be allowed. The latter, absolutely not allowed. They'd need a lot more than 51% to fulfill the requirements set forth in our constitution for such a change. They'd need a number of constitutional amendments (requiring ratification in both the senate and 2/3's of the states) and for good reason.



posted on Sep, 30 2019 @ 05:57 AM
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a reply to: wantsome

Well, now I understand why you were called Yankee...

TheRedneck



posted on Sep, 30 2019 @ 06:24 AM
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This is a conspiracy theory forum, right?

America is being run into the ground on purpose, to bring about the New World Order. They've been telling us straight to our faces for decades and have been foreshadowing the events leading up to it in movies and TV. I think it's pointless to sit here and speculate about civil war, when the bigger picture is staring us in the face. Civil unrest is just another step in the process, a means to an end. It's going to happen and there's nothing we can do to stop it.

If you don't have faith, you might want to look into that, because what's coming is going to test you to the very core.



posted on Sep, 30 2019 @ 06:30 AM
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I just recall scenes from I think it was North and South (or the Blue and the Gray) where the elites from high society were stupid enough to treat the Battle of Bull Run like spectator sport. They all came out in their fancy clothes with picnic hampers packed up like they were tailgating for a football game.

The reality was far more gruesome than they bargained for, and I believe the course of the battle shifted right into their pretty little day too.

But half the people who think a Civil War would be a great thing are like those people -- ready to sit it out and read or hear santized news reports over their avocado toast.



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