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How do you Unite a fractured nation?

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posted on Sep, 27 2019 @ 04:11 PM
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A very wise mod made a comment in another thread about looking for an actual "uniter" and not more dividers.

My premise is that back in the olden days, we had two parties that had different ideas on how to get to the same destination.

Now?

We have a population that doesn't even want the same destination.

So how do you unite?

We all hear, "We need uniters, not dividers"! All the current dem contenders say that they are uniters!

HOW???

Usually you unite by compromise. But who wants to compromise on the Bill of Rights? Or who wants to compromise on higher taxes or UBI?

Have we reached a point where we cannot unite? Are we so different now, in uniting impossible?

I humbly ask the gentle readers on ATS. . . . . . .




posted on Sep, 27 2019 @ 04:16 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

I don't believe it's possible to unite people that want different goals.
So yeah, it's impossible in my opinion.



posted on Sep, 27 2019 @ 04:16 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Perhaps a civil war is the answer. Let the inner cities burn and start over from scratch. A great cleansing of the population. Destroy the infrastructure and let chaos and anarchy have it's day. If this is what you want for your children, so be it....

Glad I don't have kids....and blessed to have options to sit this one out.

A mini Armageddon and precursor to the American Apocalypse.

I prefer to watch it on TV from some tropical paradise where love is in the air, the shore breaks have a green room, the fishin is good, the beer is cold and the obsession with the hatred of others doesn't exist.





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posted on Sep, 27 2019 @ 04:16 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

You do what India did and split (Pakistan).

You make 3 countries, one is Democratistan and one is Republic of America and then you have a moderate more neutral one called Middle-Earth and then everyone moves to where they feel the ideas fit their personal values. lol



posted on Sep, 27 2019 @ 04:21 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

I must admit it was sad that early in the Trump admin...he wanted a wall...Dems wanted to help DACA dreamers. It would've been the perfect start to unite and negotiate. Trump discovered compromise was no longer available in DC.

Both parties would have had a win just with that first negotiation and have an actual platform and progress to share with Americans during election time.



Sadly the extremist know from history that a dictator cannot take control unless a country is in chaos. Sadly, if they get their way...America may be doomed for fascism or communism. Those are the extremes at battle...using all those in between as pawns.



posted on Sep, 27 2019 @ 04:22 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

There is no longer any hope of uniting. I don't believe there was ever (last 100 yrs or so) a common goal, they, the globalists, just hid it much better and had the masses fooled (the Fed etc)

There is no fix unless it is separate Countries.

IMHO this is a cold war ATM that has the real possibility to turn hot in the future. How do you win wars? Not the PC way with rules of engagement. The progressives get this.

It will be(I believe it is now) scorched earth, winner take all. Do you want freedom and self responsibility or do you want the government in total control of your life? (I know your answer DB)



posted on Sep, 27 2019 @ 04:25 PM
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a reply to: CynConcepts

Are extremists growing in number?

What is an extremist?

Antifa would label me a fascist. So by their definition, I am the extremist.



posted on Sep, 27 2019 @ 04:28 PM
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originally posted by: chris_stibrany
a reply to: DBCowboy

You do what India did and split (Pakistan).

You make 3 countries, one is Democratistan and one is Republic of America and then you have a moderate more neutral one called Middle-Earth and then everyone moves to where they feel the ideas fit their personal values. lol


Impossible! When people get tired of the crap from the people in the area they live in, they move and start the same crap in another area. Texas for example.



posted on Sep, 27 2019 @ 04:29 PM
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How do we unite, when everyone at the top — wants us divided.

I’m never in the mud pit. So take this from someone who doesn’t take sides.
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posted on Sep, 27 2019 @ 04:32 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

I actually don't think we have a divided nation, what we a have is a corrupt media that is owned by the old deep state that has controlled our government for the last 50+ years....



posted on Sep, 27 2019 @ 04:32 PM
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I think that we are dealing with a situation where our Culture was not sufficiently advanced to handle our technology.

Thats tough to deal with, especially when its abused according to generations old practices. We could start talking about actually advancing our society and culture in the same way as computers or cell phones.

Thats "pretty unlikely..."

Another option is to use the same manipulation vectors that have exacerbated all this to work towards the above, or at the very least stall the spread of the pathogen. Also "pretty unlikely," since those who control those vectors are infected. The situation there is even places like the New York Times are hiring openly identitarian and racist staff. The defense is they "are using the language of their oppressors."

From the general publics end (us), we can focus on discussions based in actual policies, ideas, etc. instead of feeding the illness through interaction. The vast majority of online interactions are now revolving around this virus and the more those are infected interact with those who disagree, in any way whatsoever, the more deeply the pathogen sinks its tentacles. But, there are folks in actual positions of power too, so voting also needs to be a priority.


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posted on Sep, 27 2019 @ 04:36 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Outlaw the democrat party.

Until there is justice pertaining to the high crimes of Hillary, Obama and their infiltrated politically weaponized intelligence communities, there will be no peace.

Dems calling for unity is like Satan praying to Christ - diametrically opposed to their core values.

Sad, that a simpleton on the other side of the planet can see, as clear as day, how divided the democrats have made the US and her citizens - just like how the anti-brexiters have made the current state of London and other areas that used to be referred to as the UK.



posted on Sep, 27 2019 @ 04:41 PM
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a reply to: Sublimecraft

With all due respect, that's not uniting. That's eliminating the opposition.



posted on Sep, 27 2019 @ 04:44 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Sublimecraft

With all due respect, that's not uniting. That's eliminating the opposition.
Survival of the fittest?? 🤔🤔



posted on Sep, 27 2019 @ 04:44 PM
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the only way this is resolved is with blood, sorry but it's true.

think about Kent State and the 60's war movement, with out that blood, the country as a whole would not have changed and come together.


without a blood sacrifice, this does not end, do I like it, hell no

it's just the facts.



posted on Sep, 27 2019 @ 04:45 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Sublimecraft

With all due respect, that's not uniting. That's eliminating the opposition.


From the democrats playbook:

#BAMN

Plenty of other political parties my friend, plenty of moderates and centrists, plenty of libertarians - once upon a time the democrats may have been the 'opposition' - today they are a clear and present danger.



posted on Sep, 27 2019 @ 04:46 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

The more I think about this, the more I believe it's not a matter of agreeing as much as it is a matter of civility and respecting each other.

We need to learn to communicate differently instead of the Internet born venom that's infected our leaders and us.

That the Mud Pit even needs to exist now, and it does, is a sign of how much the way we communicate has changed. Perhaps the real onus is on the voters to change, so our leaders will change. Perhaps the answer lies with us and we need to stop using our bad leaders as a cop out, since they are simply giving us what they think we want.



posted on Sep, 27 2019 @ 04:48 PM
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Based on the conversations I've had with people all over the country, most people like where our economy is even if they don't like (or hate) Trump. They don't agree with the Dem's divisive behavior and lies, and they especially don't want socialism. The problem is, the Left has been emboldened for years and no one has stood in their way until now. Trump alone isn't enough, as we see daily, but I don't know how to get lazy Republicans off their butts and help vote out the socialists. There are people in congress that steal, lie, cheat, obstruct and do unthinkable things but they've been there for years, or decades because of "free stuff". People just don't care enough anymore and that's extremely sad.



posted on Sep, 27 2019 @ 04:50 PM
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Aside from internetville usa, I don't see it on the streets.
There is a war on our minds being funded with taxes.
It's either an attempt at a fear motivated votes to make one party run, or a dipshhlit think tank telling the gov they will be caught up with and keep the people fighting each other.

No way out other than ending the voting system, taxation and every other thing that's been corrupted.
Good luck, it will get bloody, tok many people enjoy dictating instead of producing.

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posted on Sep, 27 2019 @ 04:53 PM
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a reply to: Blaine91555

As an aside, I placed this in the 'Pit but wanted to show that even though we have more freedom to be contentious, we also can be just as reasoned.



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