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American woman LECTURES Hong Kong protesters…’You value freedom more than safety?’ (Video)

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posted on Sep, 27 2019 @ 01:40 PM
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a reply to: Serdgiam

There's a word for this: Trotskyism. These people are pushing a Trotskyist agenda, I'm surprised that China would allow people like her in, but they did and now the world can see it.

Just to clear the air a little, I believe that she should have the right to speak her mind, but freedoms comes with the responsibility of not impeding the freedoms of others too. She doesn't seem to be doing that, so no harm no foul. She should be a little more respectful in my opinion though, since American rights doesn't mean world rights.




posted on Sep, 27 2019 @ 02:00 PM
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originally posted by: Metallicus

originally posted by: operation mindcrime
a reply to: Metallicus

She's an embarrassment to the United States??

Whahahaha...oh my....whaaaaaaahahahaha.

I'm sorry...didn't mean to be rude but with the circus act that you guys are presenting the world with I don't think you need to worry about this one individual hurting your image.

Peace


You definitely are being rude and acting like a dick, but I can respect that as I also tend to act like a dick more often than I would care to admit.

This woman is a useless, mouth breathing, turd, but I imagine all counties have worthless pieces of crap like this person.



Here's to rude dicks...

Have good weekend!!

Peace



posted on Sep, 27 2019 @ 02:04 PM
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a reply to: Guyfriday

While it has Trotsy-esque flavors, along with other things, I firmly believe this is a modern, novel group and behavior.

Attempting to understand it through historical precedent can have value (we are still dealing with humans afterall), but believing its the same thing might be part of why it has been so successful and infected so readily and rampantly worldwide.

In other words, I think that even self-identified socialists and communists are throwing out a massive red herring. I dont believe they are aware of it either though.

I think what we are seeing is the result of people doing the major portion of their interactions with others through technology. Without things like body language, we are left to our own devices in figuring out "what was meant." We could just, you know.. ask.. but thats, like, so 90s.

This eventually led to folks applying all the stories they have been telling themselves to in-person interactions. Someone saying "thats not what I meant" is eschewed and dismissed outright in favor of whatever story was conjured up long before the conversation even happened.

Doesnt help that those stories are frequently not written by the people that have them running through their head.

And thus, the descent into madness continues..



posted on Sep, 27 2019 @ 02:48 PM
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originally posted by: Serdgiam
a reply to: Guyfriday

While it has Trotsy-esque flavors, along with other things, I firmly believe this is a modern, novel group and behavior.

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IF you think this is a new group "novel" group, then might I suggest looking into the Synarchist movement, and how they have used groups in the past to push their agenda. This Trotskyist group should have been labeled Trotskyist/Synarchist movement like the post 1916 group. This T/S group isn't new by a long shot and were behind the Business Plot here in the US. I outline all this better in my thread: Uranium 1, Human Trafficking, and the Occult



posted on Sep, 27 2019 @ 03:16 PM
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a reply to: CthruU

liberty is a goal, and while sure people can't do or say what they want without consequences, people are more free then they have been at any point in human history. barring anything crazy happening, i only see humanity getting closer to the ideal that we've always dreamed of in the next few hundred years. unless negative thoughts like yours gains traction again and drags everyone down.



posted on Sep, 27 2019 @ 03:40 PM
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a reply to: Guyfriday

Why assume that if I have a different opinion that its because Im ignorant? For me, this has been an area of intense interest for about 20 years now. There is certainly a lot to it.

Im aware of these groups. You are correct that they arent new, and I actually agree their influence has been involved.. At least tangentially.

But, I see a confluence of events that goes far beyond them along with severe backfires of their practices in a modern age.

You did a pretty good job on that thread, by the way, I read it when you posted it.



posted on Sep, 27 2019 @ 04:01 PM
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Yea we screwed the pooch with the patriot act, but this loon is still either wildly wrong or well paid to spout that drivel.

This Yank is completely in awe of the majority of the protestors, even though they have to know how this will end up they still keep at it in the name of freedom.

I wish more americans remembered that our fore fathers believed in liberty over a life of servitude.



posted on Sep, 27 2019 @ 08:16 PM
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a reply to: Serdgiam

I don't assume, I error.

Seriously though, I didn't mean it that way, I was only showing another possibility to the people that left this group, we are now discussing, out to dry.



posted on Sep, 27 2019 @ 09:16 PM
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originally posted by: operation mindcrime
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

OMG.....somebody with an opinion.

A stupid opinion I'll give you that but why is this a thread?

Peace


Why not? do I have to ask you permission to post a thread?... Can people only be allowed to discuss what YOU want to discuss?...

OMG INDEED...



posted on Sep, 27 2019 @ 09:22 PM
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a reply to: thekaboose

It does come from the left in general. After all Liberals/democrats whom own companies like yahoo, google, facebook etc have been working overtime to restrict freedom of speech of people who dare be on the right in the western world, meanwhile these same "liberals/democrats" have been working with China to go after protesters and to introduce more restrictions of people living in countries like China. so yes, it is "left-wing ideology." It is the same "left-wing ideology" of the UN as they have been in favor of for example China's 1 child policy, meanwhile the Chinese government has murdered people, drowned, or beat to dead children hidden by parents whom "dared" to have a second child. Even now that they allow parents to have 2 children the same thing is happening to any third child anyone would dare to have in China...

Left-wing groups throughout the world have been for a long time spoken favorably about China's 1 child policy, and have even stated that we need to implement such policies in western nations...





edit on 27-9-2019 by ElectricUniverse because: add comment.



posted on Sep, 27 2019 @ 09:29 PM
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originally posted by: pexx421
Meh. Hk was brutally oppressed under British rule, no one was complaining or publicizing it then. There are plenty American pseudo colonies today, they are not making it on the news. Everything is politicized. Is the woman’s brainwashing that safety is more important than freedom (which every govt actually stands behind, see McCarthyism, us concentration camps, patriot act etc) any more dangerous than the standard American belief that our profits are more important than other people’s lives? Whatever.


What?... wow...revisionism of history...even though that history is not even that old. Hong Kong under British rule prospered like no part of China had ever done. The Chinese people living in Hong Kong under British rule had more freedom than they have now that it is under Chinese rule. Hence why you have millions of Chinese in Hong Kong protesting against Chinese rule, which has always and will always be dictatorial.



posted on Sep, 28 2019 @ 07:54 AM
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originally posted by: namehere
a reply to: CthruU

liberty is a goal, and while sure people can't do or say what they want without consequences, people are more free then they have been at any point in human history. barring anything crazy happening, i only see humanity getting closer to the ideal that we've always dreamed of in the next few hundred years. unless negative thoughts like yours gains traction again and drags everyone down.


Let me give you an example of how free you are-

They say your free so go buy a car and travel the country, go see your friends, take your family out, get to your job etc.

But before you do -

Go to work pay us taxes, then if you've got any $ left buy that car albeit after paying yet again more tax on it, then pay for petrol (more tax), and registration (more tax), then insurance (more tax), then stick to a particular speed limit, indicate, park a certain way, make sure your lights are all working or we'll pull you over and fine you, maybe even charge and send you to court if officer feels your behaviour is deservant etc etc, i could go on and on and that's just bloody transport let alone anything else.

Theres nothing negitive to my thoughts on this issue but perhaps your ignorance of your true being (or simply for you - your blinkers are on rendering your peripheral vision redundant) is what's actually dragging everyone down.

But

You are right to some degree that we are more free than we've ever been but that's only in relation to recorded historys version of the last 2020 years.




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