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Eleusinian and Isis mysteries beliefs hidden in Modern Olympics.

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posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 12:13 PM
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originally posted by: Astronomer62
a reply to: purplemer

There was a merger of Al Queda and Isis shown on link below:-
since911.com...
On 15th October 2005 or 2015, Sirius rose at midnight day marker, i think this took place in Al Fallujah in Iraq, but i'm not completely sure, i'll start a thread later in the year about the Arab Spring Movement.
It would be ironic if ISIS aligned under the Isis star!



How about the death of the ISIS leader October 27, a US North Syria. Funny how the dog is the hero even though he blew himself up.



[qedition.cnn.com...]
The US military operation that targeted ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi got underway on the ground in northwest Syria at 5:01 p.m. ET Saturday, according to a senior US defense official.




posted on Nov, 13 2019 @ 04:05 AM
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a reply to: purplemer
I have looked at North West Syria at time and day starts and can find no alignments, however if these alignments are deliberate, they didn't have the time for it, as military intelligence of the whereabouts of Abu Bakr al Baghdadi was up to the minute, so was impractical, they just needed to kill him.
When i have finished with other threads, i will get back to ISIS as i have a lot more to say.
I thought i would leave some information regarding the Independence of Syria on 1st January 1944, link below, i'll be back with graph later.

www.heritageforpeace.org...

As this is 1st January 1944, you need to re-read what i have to say about when the Gregorian Calendar was formed, long before rounded off to the hour, time zones were introduced, which means that Damascus, Syria doesn't have Sirius culminating at the start of New Year at that location.
Near top of page:-
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Please note that a Muslim calendar day begins at sunset of previous day, from start of link, read 3 paragraphs down:-
en.wikipedia.org...

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posted on Nov, 13 2019 @ 06:35 AM
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So if we look at 1st January 1944 from previous Sunset we get a time of 16:22 PM on 31st December 1943, as Sun set, Alnilam, Belt of Orion and Osiris star was rising!
Astronomy graph below in the Capital Damascus:-



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posted on Nov, 13 2019 @ 07:51 AM
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The reason that Sirius doesn't culminate at True South at midnight in Damascus, Syria on 1st January 1944 is because of time zone application that come in long after the Gregorian calendar in 1582.

Your location now to see this has to be approx. every 15 degrees of longitude from Greenwich mean time at 00* 00' , Damascus is at 36*E18' longitude being six degrees out of synch, if it had been 15+15= 30 degrees longitude approx, then Sirius would have culminated at midnight.



posted on Nov, 15 2019 @ 09:41 AM
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originally posted by: Astronomer62
It must be noted it has always been rare that both Winter and Summer Olympics occur in the same country as happened in 1936 in Germany, it has only happened four times.
The 1936 Summer Olympics were held in Berlin and the 1936 Winter Olympics were held in Garmisch-Partenkirchen, Germany.
Hitler wanted to use the Olympics as a propaganda tool to show Aryan racial superiority, it didn't turn out that way, the star of the Summer Olympics was Jesse Owens.
As both Winter and Summer Olympics happened in Germany, Hitler marked the earlier Winter one, link below:-
en.wikipedia.org...
Ancient Greek day marker was applied to opening ceremony on 6th February 1936, which is sunset of previous day on 5th February at location, as the Sun set, Sirius was rising!
Astronomy graph below:-




To continue with the Nazi Olympics, there aren't any alignments to the Summer Olympics that started on 1st August and finished on 16th August, however i'm still research the actual time of opening and closing ceremonies.
The closing ceremony has a near miss with Sirius but is 3 degrees out of synch not one degree margin that i use.
Links below:-
encyclopedia.ushmm.org...
en.wikipedia.org...

Some people at the time thought there was symbolism in the day that Hitler chose to open the Olympics, being 1st August, as it corresponded to when Germany declared war in 1914:-
en.wikipedia.org...

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posted on Nov, 18 2019 @ 12:05 PM
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the alignment is now slipping in Greenwich now for some years and will fall out of one degree margin by middle of the century.


can you re-explain that please.. I have a thread nearly ready on Sirius. I will let you know when I post it. Hope you are keeping well.



posted on Nov, 19 2019 @ 04:35 AM
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Hi, yes i'm keeping well.
Firstly you need an App for your Phone, a compass isn't good at showing True South:-
www.youtube.com...

I'm guessing you may live in the Scottish Isles so i'm going to pick a location being Portree in Skye, the longitude there is 06*W12'.

A Degree is equal to 4 minutes of time, so the location is 6 degrees West, so 6 multiply 4 is 24 but also there is 12' which is nearly a quarter of a degree so then add another minute, so we get 25 minutes which you would have to add from Greenwich, UK being 00:00 Longitude to get local time which we followed 150 years ago.
So if you were in Portree, Skye on 1st January 2020 at midnight and looking up in the sky from Due South, you would have to wait till 25 minutes past midnight to see the same Sky with Sirius culminating, to what i see from London which is the only place left in the world now that has real local time from Greenwich, UK.



posted on Nov, 19 2019 @ 05:09 AM
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Now how our calendar was aligned to Sirius comes from Rome roughly 438 years ago, when Papal astrologers picked Sirius to culminate at New Year, firstly it was by the inaccurate belief in astrology by one degree being "Projected onto the ecliptic measure, that stays in place for approx. 200 years, soon after this the real astronomy measure kicked in by actually showing Sirius culminating, but during this time we all changed from local time to rounded off hour time zones.
So in the Northern Hemisphere the sky will always show the same every 15 degrees Longitude away from Greenwich UK at 00:00, but if you don't live exactly on every 15 degrees, (15+15=30 etc), then you have to work out how many minutes to add, like i described.

If you do live in Scotland, you may not experience light pollution, which darkens the sky so you don't see the stars, however you probably will not escape Clouds, which will stop you seeing Sirius culminate.
Astrologers use a one degree margin on stars and because of procession of the Equinox's and Axial tilt, these alignments don't stay in place forever, slowly the one degree margin gets out of sync with True South culmination, the alignment is better in 2021 and 2022, which is due to our year being approx. 365 and a quarter days long and adding a leap day every four years.



posted on Nov, 19 2019 @ 05:36 AM
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I'm only guessing you live on islands off Scotland, and the alignments only apply to Northern Hemisphere (Europe and United States), if you lived in the Southern hemisphere being Australia etc. there are other rules that need to be explained including Summer Time, so ask if this is so!
So as an example i'm leaving a astronomy graph for Portree, Isle of Sky, Scotland at 25 minutes after midnight on January 1st 2020, it is the same sky that will be seen at midnight on 1st January 2020 in Greenwich UK.
It is slipping for some years, as with graph which is outside one degree culmination point:-



posted on Nov, 19 2019 @ 05:44 AM
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I love the Isle of Skye, it is where my favourite Whisky comes from being Talisker, i'm going to buy myself a 12 year old bottle this Christmas!
i might have a "Merry Christmas", which i wish for all ATS members on the forums here!



posted on Nov, 20 2019 @ 03:55 PM
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Glad your good. Have stopped with the whisky here but I enjoy making flower wines and beer!

Isle of Sky is a lovely magical place. I live one island further (Lewis) out the the North Western tip of the isle of the isle. We are very lucky with the sky here. The village I live in might get a dark sky status because of the lack of light pollution and in the winter get a real show of the stars.

I read the stuff a couple of times The Ecliptic and Nothing Else. I now have an understanding now that fixed stars are sometimes fixed to the ecliptic and that there is a more accurate model for this.

I will fix my phone to true north too. I know this is an alignment used in a lot of ancient buildings.

Have you heard of this person. Cyril Fagan. Says something along the same lines.




According to researcher and historian Cyril Fagan, “For Egypt and Babylonia, the length of Sirius’ heliacal year is almost exactly the same as the Julian year (see J.K. Fotheringham’s The Calendar, British Nautical Almanac, 1935) with the result that Sirius rose heliacally on almost the same Julian date for 4000 years (see Zodiacs, Old and New, table X, p.78).” He then provides us with the dates of the heliacal rising in Egypt (in Heliopolis), based on the calendar established by Julius Caesar in 45 BC, which has 365.25 days in a year.


www.ancient-origins.net...


Is the big year and the earth wobble an orbit of Sirius.



posted on Nov, 21 2019 @ 05:57 AM
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a reply to: purplemer
I envy you living on Lewis, for an archaeoastronomer it is an island rich in ancient mystery, i wish i was mobile, i would love to investigate the Callanish stones, at the Equinox's and Solstices, sigh!
en.wikipedia.org...
I'm also interested in Skara Brae in the Orkney Isles that pre-dates the pyramids, and obviously the tomb of Maeshowe where the setting Sun shines into the door on the Winter Solstice!
en.wikipedia.org...
For your location at New Year add 1 more minute after midnight on 1st January, and if you can't find Sirius, look for the Orion Constellation, as the 3 stars of the Belt of Orion point at Sirius, look at the astronomy graph for Skye.
I'm very interested in Cyril Fagan,....in time i can see you being an astronomer, Ha Ha!



posted on Nov, 21 2019 @ 06:22 AM
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Solunars forum is interested in Cyril Fagan, but be careful of joining, there are many mystery school members there, including Jim Eshelman who belongs to the A.A. which is like O.T.O.

www.solunars.com...

www.lashtal.com...

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posted on Nov, 21 2019 @ 10:32 AM
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What you are asking is bound up in what is called the Sothic Cycle, which i will explain :-
en.wikipedia.org...

This is largely true by the Julian Calendar, on 0001 year Sirius rose with the Sun on 7th July in Cairo Egypt, 1460 years later, it rose with the Sun on 10 July!
So there was a rough cycle with the Julian Calendar, that was out of sync of a year by three leap days that needed taking out, every 400 years.
Sadly we can't work out when the ancient Egyptian calendar had New Year as they worked it out by when the sky was still dark, for you cant actually see the Sun rising with Sirius, so the problem is "How long before Sunrise did they estimate?"
The ancient Greeks were able to estimate an exact alignment along horizon by astrology that they were the masters of, so only exact measures we get from the Greeks, who were there in Alexandria like Sosigenes in 0045 BC, when the Julian Calendar started, but that doesn't help us going further back in the ancient Egyptian Calendar.


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posted on Nov, 21 2019 @ 12:23 PM
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Cleopatra was a Greek dynasty pharaoh, she probably started the Julian Calendar in Thebes which is near present day Luxor, the ancient Greeks used sunset previous to date, so for the first year of Julian Calendar being 1st January 0045 BC, we find as Sun set, Sirius was rising in Thebes!



posted on Nov, 22 2019 @ 04:30 AM
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I need to get back on track with the Olympic Games, below i have left a brief history of the Torch relay team and origin in 1936:-

news.bbc.co.uk...

A lot more can be read about the Nazi Party, if you scroll down link below:-
www.abovetopsecret.com...

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posted on Nov, 26 2019 @ 10:23 AM
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The 1932 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles didn't have any alignments.
en.wikipedia.org...
But it was one of those Olympics that the Summer and Winter Olympics were held in the same Nation, so the earlier 1932 Winter Olympics was aligned to the stars.
The Opening Ceremony was on 4th February 1932, Sunset ancient Greek day marker was used in Lake Placid, New York, as the Sun set in the West, Sirius was rising in the East!
en.wikipedia.org...
Astronomy Graph below, the was only 3 Olympics that both Winter and Summer Olympics were in the same Nation and all of them were marked by earlier Winter Olympics:-




posted on Nov, 26 2019 @ 11:08 AM
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Franklin D. Roosevelt was Governor of New York in 1932, he later become a 32 degree Freemason, he opened the 1932 Winter Olympics.
Lake Placid, New York won its bid to host the Winter Olympics in Lausanne, Switzerland on 10th April 1929, link below:-
en.wikipedia.org...
At location ancient Egyptian day marker was used, being sunrise, as Sirius was aligned to True North or Nadir, astronomy graph below:-




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