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originally posted by: FlyInTheOintment
This is a sensible & keen-eyed observation regarding the 'program' which seems to be in operation. 'Someone' is manipulating the conspiracy community - those who are somewhat more 'awake' than the general populace - into believing that there is an all-powerful alien threat which is seeking to cause chaos - but somehow our primitive government is able to keep them at bay, and frequently declares that UFOs are 'not a threat to national security'..??? When in actual fact there would seem to be nothing more directly threatening to our existence than mysterious & powerful craft which can enter our airspace & travel around at will, interfering with the populace & evading our air defences & best fast jet pilots with ease.. Nothing would seem to be more threatening!
But somehow, we can keep them at bay, such that they operate only in the shadows, affecting the lives of people that society would generally not care to listen to or take seriously in any way whatsoever. Could it be that there is an agreement in place?? That our governmental operatives at the highest level have been in communication with the entities which pilot these craft, and have made an agreement which ensures that the craft do not interfere with the mainstream operation of society & citizens who are living in the friend zone, as regards their high tax bracket & so on - instead focusing on those on welfare, on the rednecks in the outback that nobody would ever take seriously.
Did our world governing powers sell out to these mysterious, powerful, de facto 'magical' creatures? Are we pawns in their mysterious, unknown game plan? Or is there a more complex play in operation? Are there rules which bind their activities, such that they can only operate within certain 'channels' of societal structure? With certain bloodlines, families which have a history so dark that they can never come into the light? Are the rules of Dharma manipulated so thet some of our children are shimmied into lifestyles which make them a target for the dark machinations of these nightmare creatures? Are they the dark elves of Germanic folklore? Do they intend to eat us all up, body & soul together, just like in the darkest of fairy tales? I believe this to be the case, and I believe that our governmental structures have 'surfaces of connection' with these beings - ways that they can communicate which are outside of normal considerattion, perhaps also fulfilling magical lore regarding the need to gain consent - even unconscious consent - by putting the nefarious plans they have devised in full public view, yet in a form which only those at the top of the pyramid will be able to interpret... My personal belief is that just like the film 'Arrival', these beings are communicating by meaningful picture language - crop circles - which is encoded with the mystic/pragmatic language, a form of geomancy, which inserts their magical operation into the collective unconscious of the human race, in some way giving them permission to rape & abuse those unfortunates who are channelled into positions in which they can be taken, observed, manipulated, damaged, controlled, and ultimately, if they are unfortunate enough, destroyed in the service of the refinement of the goals & plans these creatures have crafted in the shadows.
For the Truth & the Light, for those who are trapped in terrifying servitude, we all should seek to be more aware of what is happening, and to pray for those that are suffering in chains through the will of the monsters which we have always been told did not exist. Those that are 'dead but dreaming', those that are worshipped by a human cult which helps to craft the circumstances by which abused & tortured unfortunates are put under the will of the Enemy.
originally posted by: Hunkadinka
originally posted by: moebius
originally posted by: standingwave
... just talk, talk , and more talk.
Likie almost every thread about UFOs?
You make statements like "inter dimensionals" and "plasmic". But you don't explain what exactly you mean by them. Neither do you provide any proof for your claims.
And that is exactly what I hate about UFOlogy, people making things up, instead of just sticking with what is objectively known.
I was going to provide a similar reply but I'm glad you beat me to it. I know that participating in this forum is questionable in terms of one's own intelligence and once in a while something posted is worth the effort. But when you see worthless threads such as this one where the OP is operating without common sense and trying to sound hip while coming across as uneducated about UFOlogy. The OP is simply ignorant. Of course he didn't explain exactly what he mean, he doesn't have the knowledge to do so. And there is no way he can offer proof. You are correct, he is making things up as he goes along. In a debate he would automatically be a loser.
There is so much about UFOlogy that would make interesting reading but this thread doesn't come close to it.
originally posted by: Blue Shift
originally posted by: InTheLight
Very interesting theory if gravitational waves distort time and sound (waves?).
Well, if gravity is essentially the same as acceleration, then a person might experience a kind of "Doppler Shift" near an area of spacetime that has a distorted localized gravity. Then (if you thought of time as having a kind of frequency like light or EM waves) the closer you got to the object, the more time might seem to slow down.
Maybe. Acceleration without motion. Traveling without moving. Like the Holtzman Effect from "Dune."
originally posted by: Ellie Sagan
a reply to: InTheLight
Your post immediately struck a cord with me. When I was a kid, I saw what looked like a spaceship/rocketship sort of thing. As a kid, I wondered what the heck it was, it was my first sighting. To my kid mind, I thought it was a translucent craft that was brightly lit on the inside. The way you put it seems like it might be the same type thing. After that, I started being more interested in UFO stuff and began reading what I could on it.
I have no idea why some people see them and some don't. I don't presume that I'm so special as to be "chosen", but I started having experiences with unexplained things before I was even old enough to have been influenced. I truly didn't understand stuff. It was after the experiences that I would try to learn more, trying to make sense of it. Could it be that (someone) something wants to draw us in, to know, about them?
originally posted by: Oldhabits
No evidence to support this of course but a monkey could see it from a mile off.
originally posted by: charlyv
a reply to: standingwave
Having respect for the opinions of others is an ATS golden rule, but is more like an ideal. The ability to shrug off the negativity of some is hard, and thus the conflicts.
That is unlikely to change, so you need a good helmet AND as much whit as you can muster to deal with it.
That is how this place survives!
originally posted by: Erno86
a reply to: standingwave
The otherworlders use lighted fiery orbs during nighttime for a number of reasons: Besides scaring the hell out of everybody --- Use of fiery fusion plasma as a source of fuel for their nuts an bolts starships, that are safely encased inside it; in places that lack other sources of photons --- A magnetically contained fusion plasma shield that protects the starship for any weapons that we can throw at them --- Burning away any brush and sterilizing the landing spot.
Offensively? A weapon of mass destruction...
Use of thousand of tons of generated electrified fusion plasma on targets that deserve it.
originally posted by: Oldhabits
a reply to: standingwave
If by Rock Star intel you mean Tom Delonge, I wouldn't lean too much faith on that angle. The guy is a fraud as are those he is involved in. They know how to squeeze a penny out of adoring fans. He pays them to be allowed to use their names as his associates. No evidence to support this of course but a monkey could see it from a mile off.
However, I dont think that merging with material elements is a problem for these "travel containers" or whatever they are. They have no problem traveling into and out of water with no impediment at all.
originally posted by: LambertSimnel
This is a very good point. What seems to have been lost on our sci fi is that if you used a time machine...taking you to the exact point but deep in the past...you would be floating in space or worse.
The earth is always moving. Unless you can get it just....right..you're f***ed. Easier to time travel in a space craft and then scoot over to where the planet is at the time you travelled to.