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Australia brings in cashless welfare card.

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posted on Sep, 24 2019 @ 09:28 AM
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Yet here we have a whistleblower who unraveled a 230 BILLION DOLLAR Russian laundering scheme.

www.cbsnews.com...


The OP,s thread is just s to keep the little peeps down.




posted on Sep, 24 2019 @ 09:53 AM
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a reply to: lakenheath24

I had no idea Australian welfare recipients could do such things.

Inerdasting, if not at least.



posted on Sep, 24 2019 @ 10:23 AM
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a reply to: Bluntone22


Dealer didn't think it was a big deal to string it out. He deposits $10G one day and $0 the next. For a dealership it wasn't an issue at all. The cash hadn't seen a bank while I had it. Just gets stacked up in the safe for a year or two till I have enough to get what I want. Wrote a check too.






posted on Sep, 24 2019 @ 10:36 AM
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a reply to: mikell

Not so much a big deal but it does get reported.
It's for tracking drug money and human trafficking.

They likely look for patterns.



posted on Sep, 24 2019 @ 01:08 PM
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originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: lordcomac

Don't get pulled over on your way to buy that dump truck. Anything over $1,000 can legally be seized by the police and held for up to a year while you fight them in court. It's just another way the revenue collectors that masquerade as police fund themselves.

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An unfortunate reality, but yes.
More importantly, don't take all that cash out of the bank and head out to buy that dump truck- because now there are people who work at the bank who know you're walking around with more than 20k in your pocket.



posted on Sep, 24 2019 @ 01:48 PM
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originally posted by: mikell
In the US it can be a pain to buy stuff in cash but we manage. Bought a truck with $20 k down last year and took the dealer the down payment over 3 business days to save us both a lot of paperwork.



When the card reader refuses to read, or the 'internets' is out.

Cash is all that's left.



posted on Sep, 24 2019 @ 04:39 PM
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a reply to: anonentity

They've had these cashless centrelink cards in some Aboriginal communities for years now. From memory, 80% of their newstart payments are quarantined... which basically just means 80% of their fortnightly payment can't be spent on alcohol, drugs or gambling.

I kind of understand the logic behind it for people that have been on newstart for a long period (over 2 years), or people who are constantly violating the conditions set by their job network providers and seemingly have no interest in finding employment.

But for some really unfortunate person who's lost their job and genuinely needs assistance, just even applying for newstart can be an extremely humiliating experience... so to me it just seems needlessly cruel and extremely petty to force a person in that position to pull their dole card out in front of everyone every time they go to the shop to buy some groceries.



posted on Sep, 25 2019 @ 02:02 AM
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There was a family I used to know. The mother and father would spend all their welfare money on drugs, beer and smokes. If there was $20 left over they bought food with it. As you can imagine, every time they ran out of money, which was quite often, they would come over to my house, hang out for days, and then the moment they got paid, they left.

I started knowing when they would come and freezing my food, packaging it up and taking it to my parents' house to keep for a few days. When this family left, I'd go and get my food and restock my fridge and shelves.

I did feel bad as they had two kids that were constantly hungry. But...they had more than enough money for the kids. The welfare payment was very generous. I was always hungry and didn't have the money or the extra food. When they realised that I had no food in my house, they went to the local bakery for a pie and ate it before they got back. I would just have a couple of frozen meals for myself in the freezer.

But I heard the mother ring up her cousin one day and say they had no money, the kids were starving (all true), and this cousin gave her $50. She spent it on a carton of beer and a packet of smokes and bought her 2 kids one small packet of smith's original chips.

Then they partied. I just couldn't believe it.

In some ways I understand why this cashless card is being rolled out, but I think the 80% quarantine is far too high. There are problems with the Indue company going down so people can't pay for their food and some shops won't accept the card. I think 50% would be fine to quarantine, and the rest to be cash. That way kids will always have food.

Many parents also take money from teenagers who are on austudy etc. Because the parent's payment will drop.

I agree that there will be stigma, which is unfortunate, but I remember these people getting $1500 a fortnight, spending $800 a fortnight on drugs, alcohol and smokes at least, then they had to pay rent, electricity etc. The kids had white bread, cheap bacon, noodles, rice and pasta. They were not the healthiest kids around. One fortnight I fed the kids and I had no food for myself, basically starved.



posted on Sep, 25 2019 @ 04:06 AM
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originally posted by: pacific
There was a family I used to know. The mother and father would spend all their welfare money on drugs, beer and smokes. If there was $20 left over they bought food with it. As you can imagine, every time they ran out of money, which was quite often, they would come over to my house, hang out for days, and then the moment they got paid, they left.

I started knowing when they would come and freezing my food, packaging it up and taking it to my parents' house to keep for a few days. When this family left, I'd go and get my food and restock my fridge and shelves.

I did feel bad as they had two kids that were constantly hungry. But...they had more than enough money for the kids. The welfare payment was very generous. I was always hungry and didn't have the money or the extra food. When they realised that I had no food in my house, they went to the local bakery for a pie and ate it before they got back. I would just have a couple of frozen meals for myself in the freezer.

But I heard the mother ring up her cousin one day and say they had no money, the kids were starving (all true), and this cousin gave her $50. She spent it on a carton of beer and a packet of smokes and bought her 2 kids one small packet of smith's original chips.

Then they partied. I just couldn't believe it.

In some ways I understand why this cashless card is being rolled out, but I think the 80% quarantine is far too high. There are problems with the Indue company going down so people can't pay for their food and some shops won't accept the card. I think 50% would be fine to quarantine, and the rest to be cash. That way kids will always have food.

Many parents also take money from teenagers who are on austudy etc. Because the parent's payment will drop.

I agree that there will be stigma, which is unfortunate, but I remember these people getting $1500 a fortnight, spending $800 a fortnight on drugs, alcohol and smokes at least, then they had to pay rent, electricity etc. The kids had white bread, cheap bacon, noodles, rice and pasta. They were not the healthiest kids around. One fortnight I fed the kids and I had no food for myself, basically starved.


As of today the Australian government just announced that from January 2020 cannibis will be legal for possession and personal use in of all places the capital - Canberra where parliament resides.

What is going on in Australia - so heres a card so you can't buy drugs if your on welfare but hey we'll legalise it for everyone else who cares to indulge. Not only that but the only state it's legalised is where the laws are actually made.



posted on Sep, 25 2019 @ 05:03 AM
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originally posted by: CthruU

originally posted by: pacific
There was a family I used to know. The mother and father would spend all their welfare money on drugs, beer and smokes. If there was $20 left over they bought food with it. As you can imagine, every time they ran out of money, which was quite often, they would come over to my house, hang out for days, and then the moment they got paid, they left.

I started knowing when they would come and freezing my food, packaging it up and taking it to my parents' house to keep for a few days. When this family left, I'd go and get my food and restock my fridge and shelves.

I did feel bad as they had two kids that were constantly hungry. But...they had more than enough money for the kids. The welfare payment was very generous. I was always hungry and didn't have the money or the extra food. When they realised that I had no food in my house, they went to the local bakery for a pie and ate it before they got back. I would just have a couple of frozen meals for myself in the freezer.

But I heard the mother ring up her cousin one day and say they had no money, the kids were starving (all true), and this cousin gave her $50. She spent it on a carton of beer and a packet of smokes and bought her 2 kids one small packet of smith's original chips.

Then they partied. I just couldn't believe it.

In some ways I understand why this cashless card is being rolled out, but I think the 80% quarantine is far too high. There are problems with the Indue company going down so people can't pay for their food and some shops won't accept the card. I think 50% would be fine to quarantine, and the rest to be cash. That way kids will always have food.

Many parents also take money from teenagers who are on austudy etc. Because the parent's payment will drop.

I agree that there will be stigma, which is unfortunate, but I remember these people getting $1500 a fortnight, spending $800 a fortnight on drugs, alcohol and smokes at least, then they had to pay rent, electricity etc. The kids had white bread, cheap bacon, noodles, rice and pasta. They were not the healthiest kids around. One fortnight I fed the kids and I had no food for myself, basically starved.


As of today the Australian government just announced that from January 2020 cannibis will be legal for possession and personal use in of all places the capital - Canberra where parliament resides.

What is going on in Australia - so heres a card so you can't buy drugs if your on welfare but hey we'll legalise it for everyone else who cares to indulge. Not only that but the only state it's legalised is where the laws are actually made.





They have those laws in the capitol because politicians want their kids to follow in their footsteps, if they have drug charges they cannot. It's fairly simple logic if you think about it.



posted on Sep, 25 2019 @ 05:59 AM
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These are the things that happen to a country AFTER you all turn in your guns or have them confiscated.
edit on 25-9-2019 by NoCorruptionAllowed because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 25 2019 @ 06:10 AM
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originally posted by: CthruU

originally posted by: pacific
There was a family I used to know. The mother and father would spend all their welfare money on drugs, beer and smokes. If there was $20 left over they bought food with it. As you can imagine, every time they ran out of money, which was quite often, they would come over to my house, hang out for days, and then the moment they got paid, they left.

I started knowing when they would come and freezing my food, packaging it up and taking it to my parents' house to keep for a few days. When this family left, I'd go and get my food and restock my fridge and shelves.

I did feel bad as they had two kids that were constantly hungry. But...they had more than enough money for the kids. The welfare payment was very generous. I was always hungry and didn't have the money or the extra food. When they realised that I had no food in my house, they went to the local bakery for a pie and ate it before they got back. I would just have a couple of frozen meals for myself in the freezer.

But I heard the mother ring up her cousin one day and say they had no money, the kids were starving (all true), and this cousin gave her $50. She spent it on a carton of beer and a packet of smokes and bought her 2 kids one small packet of smith's original chips.

Then they partied. I just couldn't believe it.

In some ways I understand why this cashless card is being rolled out, but I think the 80% quarantine is far too high. There are problems with the Indue company going down so people can't pay for their food and some shops won't accept the card. I think 50% would be fine to quarantine, and the rest to be cash. That way kids will always have food.

Many parents also take money from teenagers who are on austudy etc. Because the parent's payment will drop.

I agree that there will be stigma, which is unfortunate, but I remember these people getting $1500 a fortnight, spending $800 a fortnight on drugs, alcohol and smokes at least, then they had to pay rent, electricity etc. The kids had white bread, cheap bacon, noodles, rice and pasta. They were not the healthiest kids around. One fortnight I fed the kids and I had no food for myself, basically starved.


As of today the Australian government just announced that from January 2020 cannibis will be legal for possession and personal use in of all places the capital - Canberra where parliament resides.

What is going on in Australia - so heres a card so you can't buy drugs if your on welfare but hey we'll legalise it for everyone else who cares to indulge. Not only that but the only state it's legalised is where the laws are actually made.



Hmm, can't smoke or vape in many public places but here, "personal use of cannabis is permitted for personal use in of all places the capital - Canberra where parliament resides?" Sarcasm from me - Bit of parliamentary privilege methinks.

That's what's going on in Australia.

Kind regards,

bally



posted on Sep, 25 2019 @ 06:19 AM
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originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
These are the things that happen to a country AFTER you all turn in your guns or have them confiscated.


If that's the case how do we have EBT cards here in the United States?



posted on Sep, 25 2019 @ 07:06 AM
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Australia is a Maoist-Marxist-Leninist-Communist state. Come to the big cities and you'd think you're in Shanghai, Bombay or Calcutta. Not worth living in this 3rd world nation anymore. All the wealthy Europeans will leave and leave it to the 3rd worlders. That's what's happening and escalating exponentially too. A culture-less vacuum at the best of times, a communist culture-less vacuum now.



posted on Sep, 25 2019 @ 07:16 AM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: CthruU

originally posted by: pacific
There was a family I used to know. The mother and father would spend all their welfare money on drugs, beer and smokes. If there was $20 left over they bought food with it. As you can imagine, every time they ran out of money, which was quite often, they would come over to my house, hang out for days, and then the moment they got paid, they left.

I started knowing when they would come and freezing my food, packaging it up and taking it to my parents' house to keep for a few days. When this family left, I'd go and get my food and restock my fridge and shelves.

I did feel bad as they had two kids that were constantly hungry. But...they had more than enough money for the kids. The welfare payment was very generous. I was always hungry and didn't have the money or the extra food. When they realised that I had no food in my house, they went to the local bakery for a pie and ate it before they got back. I would just have a couple of frozen meals for myself in the freezer.

But I heard the mother ring up her cousin one day and say they had no money, the kids were starving (all true), and this cousin gave her $50. She spent it on a carton of beer and a packet of smokes and bought her 2 kids one small packet of smith's original chips.

Then they partied. I just couldn't believe it.

In some ways I understand why this cashless card is being rolled out, but I think the 80% quarantine is far too high. There are problems with the Indue company going down so people can't pay for their food and some shops won't accept the card. I think 50% would be fine to quarantine, and the rest to be cash. That way kids will always have food.

Many parents also take money from teenagers who are on austudy etc. Because the parent's payment will drop.

I agree that there will be stigma, which is unfortunate, but I remember these people getting $1500 a fortnight, spending $800 a fortnight on drugs, alcohol and smokes at least, then they had to pay rent, electricity etc. The kids had white bread, cheap bacon, noodles, rice and pasta. They were not the healthiest kids around. One fortnight I fed the kids and I had no food for myself, basically starved.


As of today the Australian government just announced that from January 2020 cannibis will be legal for possession and personal use in of all places the capital - Canberra where parliament resides.

What is going on in Australia - so heres a card so you can't buy drugs if your on welfare but hey we'll legalise it for everyone else who cares to indulge. Not only that but the only state it's legalised is where the laws are actually made.





They have those laws in the capitol because politicians want their kids to follow in their footsteps, if they have drug charges they cannot. It's fairly simple logic if you think about it.


Tell you what, that's a fantastic answer. Perhaps even partly true.
Gr8 wrk



posted on Sep, 25 2019 @ 07:19 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
These are the things that happen to a country AFTER you all turn in your guns or have them confiscated.


If that's the case how do we have EBT cards here in the United States?


I was referring to "They are moving fast to make cash transactions over ten thousand dollars illegal."

Less freedoms and more suspicions levied against the common citizen when no crime has been committed. More control of YOUR money given to government.

Less control over your life and the lives of your family.

These things happen at a quickened pace when the populace is disarmed.

They happen more slowly and subtle to an armed populace.



posted on Sep, 25 2019 @ 07:20 AM
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a reply to: sine.nomine

In the US any cash transaction over ten thousand dollars even if spread out over a year within the same retailer must be reported to the federal government.
I had an issue with a local who thought if he spread out his purchase over a few months it would not be reported and I hated to do it because that dude spent on quality rugs. But he bought three rugs over four thousand dollars each and I had to report the transactions as the business owner.



posted on Sep, 25 2019 @ 07:23 AM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Where is that happening?



posted on Sep, 25 2019 @ 07:26 AM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: sine.nomine

In the US any cash transaction over ten thousand dollars even if spread out over a year within the same retailer must be reported to the federal government.
I had an issue with a local who thought if he spread out his purchase over a few months it would not be reported and I hated to do it because that dude spent on quality rugs. But he bought three rugs over four thousand dollars each and I had to report the transactions as the business owner.


Please dont make any rugs with the constitution printed on them.

As-

It is getting walked all over enough already.

Cheers in advance for your co- operation.



posted on Sep, 25 2019 @ 07:29 AM
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Ah yes, 1 more step to dystopia. Cash is king, and the fact people are trying to topple a king should tell you a lot about where we're heading.


Get ready for the Social Credit System, don't screw up or you'll pay a cashless fine to the government.




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