Is Iran the next Vietnam

originally posted by: midicon


Be nice if someone just neutralized yours.

Awww, then who would protect your pansy euro-trashy behind every 50 years or so?

Doria nSoran

originally posted by: DorianSoran

originally posted by: midicon


Be nice if someone just neutralized yours.

Awww, then who would protect your pansy euro-trashy behind every 50 years or so?

Doria nSoran

Still running that same old mafia protection racket...some things never change.

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter

originally posted by: JON666

Why live in the past and not today?
When it comes to Iran it's bombs away

Yes and as I said Iran will be the unraveling of the world and the start of ww3. When that starts do you think the USA will be insulated like the last 2 world wars? Can we fight a war on what 4-5 fronts?

a reply to: Bluntone22

"They weren't allowed to win".

You don't have to just win the war, you have to win the peace after. As we have seen with the last 2 wars, that's not so easy. Its not our quarrel, do we really want American kids dying for this?

a reply to: Xtrozero
Yes, they were and STILL ARE evil.

originally posted by: Bluntone22
The military during the Vietnam years had terrible leadership.
They also had no clear mission.
They weren't allowed to win.

I do not think the US was trying to win in Vietnam.
I think they were there to make money.

That is part of why they killed Kennedy, they wanted the money that war would have brought them. Helicopters, planes, bombs, etcetera; all are big money makers in war for the companies who produce them.

Then there is the CIA who makes most of their money through selling drugs.

The Airforce leaders have said that they could have carpet bombed Hanoi and Haiphong back to the stone age in a few days, before China and Russia even had a chance to react. With those two cities already out of existence, and no US ground presence on northern soil, does anyone really think China or Russia would have entered the war?

originally posted by: nOraKat

Iran is no Vietnam. They are developed with a formidable military and nukes.

Well Iran better have their act together, because they fought Iraq for 8 years and got nowhere.
The US coalition fought Iraq for 1 month and took over the country.

a reply to: Bluntone22

. Socialist in the north, capitalists in the south.

Samsung agrees.

a reply to: JAGStorm
MAD DOG MATTIS WAS THE MAN!!! TRUMP SHOULD GET HIM BACK.

I don't think Trump is a war president. Talks it up but carries out no action.

a reply to: JAGStorm

No we are not going to war with Iran, they are terrorists and we are sanctioning them until they stop funding terrorists.

originally posted by: midicon

originally posted by: schuyler
No boots on the ground. Just neutralize their military.

Be nice if someone just neutralized yours.

Oh, really. And what nation are you from? Will it replace America as the only nation willing to prevent the Chinese and Russians from realizing their ancient imperialist ambitions? We’ve made many mistakes in the years since WWII, but what would this world be like if the USA hadn’t spent trillions of dollars and sacrificed more than 100,000 young Americans?

I’ll tell you what it would be like. There wouldn’t be a free Europe, Japan, South Korea or Taiwan. Very possibly no free Australia, New Zealand or Singapore without utterly kowtowing to Beijing. India might be communist instead of the world’s largest democracy. On a positive note, Islamic fundamentalism would likely be brutally repressed. Be careful what you wish for.

I hope we don’t go to war with Iran, but if they continue their aggression it might be unavoidable.

If we do go to war, there’s absolutely no reason to use our ground forces, aside from special operations forces if the payoff justifies it.

How many key targets must be destroyed to reduce Iran to a medieval-era society? Ten thousand at most? We could do that in a week or less I suspect, using nothing but stealth aircraft and cruise missiles at first, then conventional aircraft once Iran’s air defense and command and control systems are mostly neutralized. Our aircraft — even 50-year-old B-52s — could then fly at altitudes high enough to avoid AAA and drop cheap JDAMs and laser-guided bombs 24/7.

If we mine and blockade their ports and destroy: their air defense system (first priority), command and control centers (also first priority), military and civilian leadership, TV and radio stations, nuclear R&D and production facilities, naval and merchant ships, fighter aircraft, helicopters, armored vehicles, refineries, oil and gas pipelines, power plants, water treatment plants, sewage treatment plants, major factories, airfield control towers, runways, dams, railway marshalling yards, key railway and highway bridges and tunnels, major banks and a few other targets I can’t think of at the moment, Iran will have too many problems to support Hamas, Hezbollah, the Assads or Houthis, or mess with oil refineries and tankers in the Persian Gulf.

I doubt we’d be so ruthless as to do most of the above, but it’s all quite doable, and with minimal U.S. casualties. And if we give Israel the green light to do what they’ve been wanting to do, it’s good night Iran and no more crazy ayatollahs creating mischief.

a reply to: Scapegrace
Our objective should to establish control over Qeshm as a hedge towards preventing a shutdown of the straight of Hormuz. Taking out critical infrastructure in Bandar Abbas is a given. Bandar Bushehr is another port that must be neutralized swiftly. They already have domestic issue with militias around Ahvaz close to the Iraq border. Clandestine financial support of these groups could help prevent the IRGC sabotage and seditious activities in the Basrah Iraq area.

All in all, I think it would be a productive operation that would see the Regime seeking parlay in about six weeks. Of course it will be several years before they accept the loss of Qeshm, kinda of like Assad having some denial issues about the sovereignty of Rojava a year later.

Rojava is the new Israel, even Israel has base of operations there now.