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Is Iran the next Vietnam

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posted on Sep, 22 2019 @ 03:36 PM
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originally posted by: midicon

originally posted by: schuyler
No boots on the ground. Just neutralize their military.


Be nice if someone just neutralized yours.


Once that happened then Great Britain would become a target from all those baddies we protect you from now.

It isn't a very smart thing to want to have happen.




posted on Sep, 22 2019 @ 03:36 PM
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originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: midicon

Be nice if someone just neutralized yours.



Too bad isn't it? The only difference between the US and the other 170 countries is we can do it, and they can not, but everyone wishes they could.


Didn't work out to well in Korea did it ?



Why? Is South Korea communist now?



posted on Sep, 22 2019 @ 03:37 PM
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originally posted by: midicon

originally posted by: schuyler
No boots on the ground. Just neutralize their military.


Be nice if someone just neutralized yours.

You mean like Battle of Culloden?



posted on Sep, 22 2019 @ 03:37 PM
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originally posted by: midicon

originally posted by: schuyler
No boots on the ground. Just neutralize their military.


Be nice if someone just neutralized yours.



Yeah, we're tired of protecting other countries. They should take care of their defense themselves. But that would then mean free healthcare goes out the window.



posted on Sep, 22 2019 @ 03:40 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: UpIsNowDown
a reply to: JAGStorm

If a nation is invaded then war is neccesary, wars over finacial benefits are never worthy of a single casulaty from either side, if someones profit is driving a war let the CEO put their own boots on and start shooting, no soldier should be seen as a way to make money, Fcuk the petrol companies and their thirst for wealth.



War is an integral part of the American economy. Just look at how much we spend on the military industrial complex; your tax dollars at work!

We call it Homeland Security now....feel better?





Its been integral to the world as well. GPS system, Internet, Microwave ovens, just to name a few.



posted on Sep, 22 2019 @ 03:41 PM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: midicon

Be nice if someone just neutralized yours.



Too bad isn't it? The only difference between the US and the other 170 countries is we can do it, and they can not, but everyone wishes they could.


Didn't work out to well in Korea did it ?



Why? Is South Korea communist now?


North Korea is.

The idea was to kick the communists out of the north.

Failure.



posted on Sep, 22 2019 @ 03:41 PM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: midicon

Be nice if someone just neutralized yours.



Too bad isn't it? The only difference between the US and the other 170 countries is we can do it, and they can not, but everyone wishes they could.


You can do what? I don't think 170 countries want war with Iran.
The sad truth is that the US is the constant warmonger.
Another sad truth is that a war with Iran won't really be a war, just another turkey shoot like Iraq...and God forbid that you should lose one American life whilst you happily destroy another country and create all the horror that brings.

USA, the land of the gun and by extension the bomb.



posted on Sep, 22 2019 @ 03:42 PM
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Even though their militaries roughly add up equal on paper (Saudi and Iran), and Saudi has U.S. assistance, the Saudis don't want any conflict the most.

The persian gulf isn't very wide and there'd be boots on the ground; Iranian boots on Saudi ground. It'd be a much more fair fight than I think most people realize. Iran is geared for it and has been preparing for it to occur for as long as they've been an Islamic Republic. Saudi never had a reason to plot large scale invasion of Iran, rather simply to defend while getting rich.

Having the U.S. are your big brother has a psychological effect for certain; I doubt their military is as ready for a war. They couldn't even detect and stop cruise missiles and drones from their most prized possession.



posted on Sep, 22 2019 @ 03:42 PM
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originally posted by: LogicalGraphitti
We have no business fighting on behalf of Saudi Arabia. Iran has the Houthi Rebels as their proxy. The US shouldn't be SA's proxy.

What I hope doesn't happen is a strike on an Iranian target by the US military. Iran will retaliate which could mean some strike on our homeland. If that happens, things will escalate very, very quickly.



The only way we would ever go to war is if they went with a full ground assault to take over SA. A few crappy drone missiles mean nothing. If we did then within a day or two we would have full air superiority then after that, it is shooting fish in a barrel.

We are the best at war, but extremely crappy at occupation, so ya we would win rather quickly then what do we do...lol

Hopefully, the younger population gets tired of the extreme Government and has an internal regime change. The young want to live a more western lifestyle with freedom of choices that would bring them and not crippling religious rule, and also they want to get out of the crippling sanctions that they are not dumb to not see their own Government instigates it all. An internal regime change would fix both of those and they could go back to what they once were being more westernized.


edit on 22-9-2019 by Xtrozero because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 22 2019 @ 03:44 PM
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originally posted by: LogicalGraphitti

originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: midicon

originally posted by: schuyler
No boots on the ground. Just neutralize their military.


Be nice if someone just neutralized yours.



You're absolutely right.
The United States military does not belong in the Middle East.
Let them all fight it out among themselves and we can just buy the oil from the winner.

We have our own oil. We just need to keep it here and refine all of it ourselves.


We keep hearing that we are energy independent now, so prove everyones right that has been saying it's a war for oil is why were in the mid east. Pull out of every military base we have in the world and bring them home and protect the US from the US. Pull out of all our non state territorials. If we are the only superpower left we should be able to defend ourselves from our own congenital USA.



posted on Sep, 22 2019 @ 03:46 PM
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Iran is also being backed into an economic corner so much that they're acting out as if to even bait a real conflict to happen; they want one for strategic reasons involving their country. Maybe it'd help with their economy, strangely enough. I read that China just signed a 500 billion dollar deal with them to help em out.

But they stand to gain from it apparently in their eyes because they know the U.S. isn't going to and wont large scale invade; they're just helpers. I also hate to say it but they're calling President Trump's bluff; he hasn't done much militarily anywhere despite previous events all over the world too.

He doesn't want a conflict right before elections.
edit on 22-9-2019 by FlyingSquirrel because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 22 2019 @ 03:46 PM
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originally posted by: midicon

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: midicon

Be nice if someone just neutralized yours.



Too bad isn't it? The only difference between the US and the other 170 countries is we can do it, and they can not, but everyone wishes they could.


You can do what? I don't think 170 countries want war with Iran.
The sad truth is that the US is the constant warmonger.
Another sad truth is that a war with Iran won't really be a war, just another turkey shoot like Iraq...and God forbid that you should lose one American life whilst you happily destroy another country and create all the horror that brings.

USA, the land of the gun and by extension the bomb.


Not disagreeing with you, but none of those wars would have happened without the green light from your leaders, and the leaders of all of GB forming those coalitions required for that "war mongering".



posted on Sep, 22 2019 @ 03:47 PM
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originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: midicon

Be nice if someone just neutralized yours.



Too bad isn't it? The only difference between the US and the other 170 countries is we can do it, and they can not, but everyone wishes they could.


Didn't work out to well in Korea did it ?



Why? Is South Korea communist now?


North Korea is.

The idea was to kick the communists out of the north.

Failure.



Uh no...
The Korean Peninsula was divided into two sovereign states in 1948 as a product of the Cold War. Socialist in the north, capitalists in the south.

In 1950 the north, with soviet help, invaded the south.
The war was fought to keep the communists out of the south, not to liberate the north.



posted on Sep, 22 2019 @ 03:49 PM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: midicon

Be nice if someone just neutralized yours.



Too bad isn't it? The only difference between the US and the other 170 countries is we can do it, and they can not, but everyone wishes they could.


Didn't work out to well in Korea did it ?



Why? Is South Korea communist now?


North Korea is.

The idea was to kick the communists out of the north.

Failure.



Uh no...
The Korean Peninsula was divided into two sovereign states in 1948 as a product of the Cold War. Socialist in the north, capitalists in the south.

In 1950 the north, with soviet help, invaded the south.
The war was fought to keep the communists out of the south, not to liberate the north.



I feel slightly less bad about our education system..



posted on Sep, 22 2019 @ 03:50 PM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: midicon

Be nice if someone just neutralized yours.



Too bad isn't it? The only difference between the US and the other 170 countries is we can do it, and they can not, but everyone wishes they could.


Didn't work out to well in Korea did it ?



Why? Is South Korea communist now?


North Korea is.

The idea was to kick the communists out of the north.

Failure.



Uh no...
The Korean Peninsula was divided into two sovereign states in 1948 as a product of the Cold War. Socialist in the north, capitalists in the south.

In 1950 the north, with soviet help, invaded the south.
The war was fought to keep the communists out of the south, not to liberate the north.



If someone " wins " a war it ends with one side surrendering.

The Korean war ended with a ceasefire. Technically the war has not ended.



posted on Sep, 22 2019 @ 03:50 PM
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originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: midicon

Be nice if someone just neutralized yours.



Too bad isn't it? The only difference between the US and the other 170 countries is we can do it, and they can not, but everyone wishes they could.


Didn't work out to well in Korea did it ?



Why? Is South Korea communist now?


North Korea is.

The idea was to kick the communists out of the north.

Failure.



Uh no...
The Korean Peninsula was divided into two sovereign states in 1948 as a product of the Cold War. Socialist in the north, capitalists in the south.

In 1950 the north, with soviet help, invaded the south.
The war was fought to keep the communists out of the south, not to liberate the north.



I feel slightly less bad about our education system..



Well to be fair....
My dad was a Korean War veteran.
That war has been lost in our history between ww2 and Vietnam.

It's called the forgotten war..



posted on Sep, 22 2019 @ 03:51 PM
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a reply to: Xtrozero


We are the best at war, but extremely crappy at occupation, so ya we would win rather quickly then what do we do...lol


Agreed.

But I'm skeptical we would keep it isolated to an air war with Iran.

They have a good footing in Iraq now, and if we attacked Iran, I'm sure they'd let lose other places in the region provoking a full scale war.



posted on Sep, 22 2019 @ 03:54 PM
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originally posted by: JON666

We keep hearing that we are energy independent now, so prove everyones right that has been saying it's a war for oil is why were in the mid east. Pull out of every military base we have in the world and bring them home and protect the US from the US. Pull out of all our non state territorials. If we are the only superpower left we should be able to defend ourselves from our own congenital USA.


The last time we did that WWII happened.... How did that work out for the world? lol

Fracking needs oil to be around 80 a barrel to be profitable, maybe less now, and many of these countries with socialized systems that are dependant on selling oil, including Canada, need 100 to 140 per barrel. At 50 to 60 per barrel they are hurting, so its not America that would want a war with Iran to raise oil prices.



posted on Sep, 22 2019 @ 03:55 PM
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originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: midicon

Be nice if someone just neutralized yours.



Too bad isn't it? The only difference between the US and the other 170 countries is we can do it, and they can not, but everyone wishes they could.


Didn't work out to well in Korea did it ?



Why? Is South Korea communist now?


North Korea is.

The idea was to kick the communists out of the north.

Failure.



Uh no...
The Korean Peninsula was divided into two sovereign states in 1948 as a product of the Cold War. Socialist in the north, capitalists in the south.

In 1950 the north, with soviet help, invaded the south.
The war was fought to keep the communists out of the south, not to liberate the north.



If someone " wins " a war it ends with one side surrendering.

The Korean war ended with a ceasefire. Technically the war has not ended.



Ok, you want to be technical...

The Korean War was a "police action" not a war.. So no war to win..technically...ha

You should just admit that you don't know what you're talking about before your hole gets any deeper..



posted on Sep, 22 2019 @ 03:58 PM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: midicon

Be nice if someone just neutralized yours.



Too bad isn't it? The only difference between the US and the other 170 countries is we can do it, and they can not, but everyone wishes they could.


Didn't work out to well in Korea did it ?



Why? Is South Korea communist now?


North Korea is.

The idea was to kick the communists out of the north.

Failure.



Uh no...
The Korean Peninsula was divided into two sovereign states in 1948 as a product of the Cold War. Socialist in the north, capitalists in the south.

In 1950 the north, with soviet help, invaded the south.
The war was fought to keep the communists out of the south, not to liberate the north.



If someone " wins " a war it ends with one side surrendering.

The Korean war ended with a ceasefire. Technically the war has not ended.



Ok, you want to be technical...

The Korean War was a "police action" not a war.. So no war to win..technically...ha

You should just admit that you don't know what you're talking about before your hole gets any deeper..


I will leave you with this, on The Korean War that never was ( well according to you any way )




The American intervention turned the tide, and U.S. and South Korean forces marched into North Korea. This action, however, prompted the massive intervention of communist Chinese forces in late 1950. The war in Korea subsequently bogged down into a bloody stalemate. In 1953, the United States and North Korea signed a cease-fire that ended the conflict. The cease-fire agreement also resulted in the continued division of North and South Korea at just about the same geographical point as before the conflict.


www.history.com...



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