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Analyzing "The Gimbal" US Navy footage released along with 2 other videos

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posted on Sep, 26 2019 @ 01:10 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: 1point92AU

Personal attacks.
Cool.


LOL...dude you are the single biggest hypocrite on ATS.

Your contribution to this thread (and most threads) is to come in with your typical smart ass comments that have nothing to do with the topic then you cry when someone gives it right back to you.

Where's the personal attack?




posted on Sep, 26 2019 @ 02:26 PM
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originally posted by: 1point92AU

His video assessment has already been debunked as garbage. His claim for the rotation doesn't explain why the background does not also rotate at the same angle and degree he claims is making the craft appear to rotate. The debunker gets debunked.


Mick and others on the Metabunk thread have already discussed this. Other footage from an F/A-18 sensor also shows the flare rotating and the background not rotating. The thread is lengthy but one contributor has made the following video to sum up the the 'rotation' question.

See from 1:00 for the relevant portion.



Mick updates the thread in the initial post with the theory on the rotation.


I think the combination of factors all point very strong towards the rotation of the object being an artifact of the forward gimbal-mounted camera, which is probably why the video was titled "Gimbal"


Metabunk Gimbal Thread Link

Note the flare rotating independent of the background.




posted on Sep, 26 2019 @ 02:54 PM
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originally posted by: 1point92AU

Your contribution to this thread (and most threads) is to come in with your typical smart ass comments.


I've only ever seen Phage enter a thread with a sackful of common sense to impart.

YES, it can be frustrating (as I have learned over the past year after I began as a starry-eyed Believer in most of the Big Cases), but it is also educational. And also a vital balance for the forum - if Phage should ever leave ATS, it would be a dark day for us all.

If he pops a few party balloons along the way, feel free to inflate new ones. But drop the anger and angst, it's getting repetitive now.




edit on 26-9-2019 by ConfusedBrit because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 26 2019 @ 03:05 PM
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originally posted by: A51Watcher
Unfortunately all video of these encounters are highly compressed but my team has done it's best to analyze this footage using the latest forensic imaging filters to remove the noise and see what details can be recovered from the film.


I don't know. How is it that all the filtering and stacking is supposed to create a more accurate image of the craft, but those same filters make the clouds look like total garbage? Shouldn't it also make the background clouds super clear and accurate, also?



posted on Sep, 26 2019 @ 04:01 PM
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originally posted by: ConfusedBrit

originally posted by: 1point92AU

Your contribution to this thread (and most threads) is to come in with your typical smart ass comments.


I've only ever seen Phage enter a thread with a sackful of common sense to impart.



This is not true. He along with you, Mirage Men, and a few others are hands down some of the most rude, impolite, and disrespectful "holier than thou" posters on ATS. The lot of you make condescending posts to other posters on a frequent basis.

And each and every time any of you propose to insert some smart ass, irrelevant comment, rest assured I am going to be there to give it right back to you.

As I said to you in one of your hypocritical posts about politeness. If you want to be treated politely then treat others politely.

I'm more than capable of being polite but only when I am treated politely. Otherwise I have no problem being a dick.



posted on Sep, 27 2019 @ 02:06 AM
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originally posted by: Blue Shift

I don't know. How is it that all the filtering and stacking is supposed to create a more accurate image of the craft, but those same filters make the clouds look like total garbage? Shouldn't it also make the background clouds super clear and accurate, also?



What we see here in the Gimbal video is a locally stabilized target:

In short: Stabilization systems generally work as follows: First a tracking region is created, manually or automatically. The system (tracker) creates a smaller region around the target; the initiation box.
Around the initiation box a bigger box is created; the manouvre box. Within the manouvre box a series of smaller correlation boxes is placed 360 degrees around the initiation box.

The application starts to track movement within the initiation box and waits till the target arrives in a correlation box. When it detects arrival in a correlation box, the tracked object is shifted back to the center of the screen. The correlation box becomes the new initiation box and a new manouvre box is created and within the manouvre box a series of smaller correlation boxes is placed 360 degrees around the initiation box ... and so on.

"How is it that all the filtering and stacking is supposed to create a more accurate image of the craft, but those same filters make the clouds look like total garbage?"

The tracking system only follows the target (UAP). The target moves faster than its background (clouds). The craft is centered and the pixels are stabilized in their movement so there is only a minimal pixel shift. The clouds are not stabilized. While the UAP remains centered in a series of consecutive frames, the clouds constantly change position on the screen. By stacking a series of consecutive frames we see in the full image that the clouds (and their shadows) look like garbage but to the eye the centered UAP appears not to be affected and looks clean. However, when a target moves too fast for the tracker, like the Gimbal, both angle and pixel shift of the moving object has to be corrected. In this case utilizing motion stabilization for angle correction and an optical deblur for the pixel shift. In the Gimbal video the measured maximimum shift is only 3 pixels, which is extremely good and something you may expect from military equipment.


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