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Islam is Right About Women

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posted on Sep, 20 2019 @ 08:27 PM
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originally posted by: vethumanbeing

originally posted by: Zelun
a reply to: Subaeruginosa


You'd probably be better off asking an Islamic women, they'd probably be able to give you a far more informed opinion than I can.


You're probably right. Assuming, of course, that the particular sect of Islam they adhere to allows them to be educated beyond the age of eight.

Civilized nations keep their women caged.


Can you...uh...I can't make heads or tails from this. What are you saying? To which civilized nations do you refer?




posted on Sep, 20 2019 @ 08:29 PM
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originally posted by: Zelun
a reply to: Raggedyman

Ah...okay. Your point would probably be better served by phrasing it thusly:

"Men stopped restricting women's right to vote..."

And I suppose the King of England gave America the right to autonomy by sending Generals that couldn't find their ass with two hands? You're smarter than this friend.


Seriously?
You are completely wrong
Completely deluded by historical lies
Completely ignorant of suffrage in England at the time

You know, it wasn’t just some women who didn’t have the right to vote (some could). It’s not that black and white
You just talking from ignorance

The suffragette movement are like the sjw movement today, some of their issues are valid, they just act like idiots and demand people change their ways just because they demand

Educate yourself first before thinking you are smart enough to comment on a subject you have no clue about


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posted on Sep, 20 2019 @ 08:36 PM
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That's... actually kindof genius. The irony of people calling this "hate speech" is astounding. Just by getting mad at the sign, they're being forced to admit that Islam ISN'T nice to women. If it was, they'd have no reason to be upset - instead, they would be celebrating it as a positive message being spread on behalf of Muslims everywhere.

Here's a fun fact for everyone: In some Muslim countries rape isn't recognized as a crime. If a woman there gets raped and reports it to the police, she faces being put to death, as it's considered her fault. This exact thing actually made world news just 3 years ago when a British woman was almost executed in Dubai for being gang raped.

The 25-year-old woman was on holiday in the United Arab Emirates (UAE) when she was allegedly attacked by two British men last month. When she reported the rape at a police station in Dubai, she was arrested and charged with “extra-marital sex”, a crime punishable by jail, flogging and stoning to death

Detained in Dubai issued a warning to British tourists and expats this week, urging them not to report incidents of rape
Source

If you want to talk about "rape culture", Islam is pretty much the definition of it.



posted on Sep, 20 2019 @ 08:41 PM
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a reply to: Raggedyman

ooh ooh! I can do you one better:

"General Lee reunited the Nation by inflicting 118 Union casualties at Palmito Ranch, while suffering none himself. This battle would mark the end of the Civil War and the beginning of the reunification of this great and noble land. The passion with which soldiers fought, on both sides, is a testament to the resolve of this Nation to stand as one, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

That's you. That's how you sound.



posted on Sep, 20 2019 @ 08:42 PM
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originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
You'd probably be better off asking an Islamic women, they'd probably be able to give you a far more informed opinion than I can.

Especially the ones who've been executed for being raped or had their faces melted off with acid because they looked at another man.



posted on Sep, 20 2019 @ 08:51 PM
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a reply to: Zelun

Vague? Yes, I am vague, because if I tell you what and why I think the way I do then you may believe me without researching the truth, the history

Your understanding of the suffragettes movement and the women’s suffrage movement is so ignorant it’s beggars belief. You should t comment from ignorance and act like you know anything

I don’t comment on the civil war as it’s irrelevant to me, gosh, wow, I don’t comment on what I don’t know
Was it a war about slavery, maybe, maybe more than that, politics, greed, probably, I don’t know so I won’t comment from ignorance.
Learn something

Here is a tip, search “women’s suffragette caused more harm than good”



posted on Sep, 20 2019 @ 08:54 PM
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originally posted by: JON666
a reply to: visitedbythem

Is your stash as well trimmed as his?



I imagine so, since that is the poster's actual pic. His avatar is his daughter.

I will say I know many females of the Judaic faith. They are quite content. They have knitted sweater on and black long skirts in the heat of summer. I have discovered that it is not as hot as I suspected.

I have discovered I enjoy the freedom of where maga skirts and light sweaters too. My skin is not burned and air actually flows through the woven fabric better than synthetics.



posted on Sep, 20 2019 @ 09:00 PM
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originally posted by: trollz

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
You'd probably be better off asking an Islamic women, they'd probably be able to give you a far more informed opinion than I can.

Especially the ones who've been executed for being raped or had their faces melted off with acid because they looked at another man.


Yeah, living in a 3rd world country, which bases its justice system on ancient tradition would really suck, no matter what religion you adhere too.... no argument their.



posted on Sep, 20 2019 @ 09:03 PM
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originally posted by: gallop

originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: stosh64
Does that mean Christianity is also right about women?

The bible has similar ideologies regarding the female gender.



Dunno, when was the last time you heard, globally, of christians beating their women for showing skin, for disobeying them, for talking to a male who is not a family member, made to sit in the back of the vehicle, walk behind them in public, etc...

Christianity has moved on... But do tell us of how it was years ago, while everyone else talks about how things are today.

Nice try, but either you don't get out much, or you are being intentionally obtuse, because I know you can't be that ignorant of how women are still treated in many denominational and non-denominational Christian churches TODAY. By your own bibles words, women are second class citizens, and always will be.



posted on Sep, 20 2019 @ 09:09 PM
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a reply to: Klassified

Come on Klass, back it up.
Show us the details

So many words but offer nothing of substance



posted on Sep, 20 2019 @ 09:34 PM
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originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: Zelun

Vague? Yes, I am vague, because if I tell you what and why I think the way I do then you may believe me without researching the truth, the history

Your understanding of the suffragettes movement and the women’s suffrage movement is so ignorant it’s beggars belief. You should t comment from ignorance and act like you know anything

I don’t comment on the civil war as it’s irrelevant to me, gosh, wow, I don’t comment on what I don’t know
Was it a war about slavery, maybe, maybe more than that, politics, greed, probably, I don’t know so I won’t comment from ignorance.
Learn something

Here is a tip, search “women’s suffragette caused more harm than good”


I spoke to my great grandmother about it at length because she was involved in it.

So please enlighten us mere dullards with your peals of wisdom about how "stupid" the suffrage movement was in America and how women getting to vote caused more harm then good.

I'm all lady ears about your opinions.

and if you quote something like THIS...


…Up until women’s suffrage, a man was the head of his marriage and his household, and his vote represented not just himself but his entire family, including his wife and his children. When men voted, they were conscious of the fact that they were voting not just for themselves and their own personal interests, but they were also charged with the responsibility of discerning and making the ultimate decision about what was in the best interests of their entire family…

As soon as the 19th amendment was passed, men were effectively castrated, and in many, many cases disenfranchised by their wives. No longer was the man the head of the household. No longer was he responsible for his wife. Now the wife was a “co-husband” at best, or a flat-out adversary at worst. The notion of a man making the final decision about what was best for his wife and family per his God-given vocation as husband and father was now over…

Women are made with a healthy, innate desire to be provided for and protected…women want someone or someTHING to take care of them. For this reason, women tend to lean socialist, and are generally in favor of the expansion of government when the government promises to “provide” for them.


Then I am going to flame you off the thread.




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posted on Sep, 20 2019 @ 09:50 PM
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originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: stosh64

So I guess this is just the latest right-wing circle jerk to go viral then?

Guess ya'll post away ranting on about how the "left" are melting down over this. Meanwhile no one else actually gives a s#... cause it was just a random sign in some random place that doesn't actually make much sense to begin with.


I was thinking the same thing - mind you, I find the vocal left and right wings to be broken wings of a diseased, disfigured bird, but this, for certain, is nothing that anyone thinks much of anything about. Sure, maybe they'll find an outlier or two who makes a big deal about it, but that means nothing.



posted on Sep, 20 2019 @ 10:08 PM
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a reply to: dogstar23


To be Completely Honest here , Islam Considers Women Chattel , to be Bought and Sold by Chauvinist Pigs . That is their REALITY , are you just OK with that > ? ..........Hmm........



At One Time in Mans History , All the Peoples of Earth Worshiped the " Mother Goddess " . Why was that > ?
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posted on Sep, 20 2019 @ 10:15 PM
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a reply to: Raggedyman


Here is a tip, search “women’s suffragette caused more harm than good”


Okay, I'll bite. I was even feeling lucky! So I clicked "I'm feeling lucky" on google's homepage. Here's what came back:

Did the Suffragettes Do More Harm Than Good?



Many opponents at the time actually held up the suffragettes’ more extreme actions as proof women were far too emotional to make important decisions. At the pinnacle of their violence, in 1913, suffragettes tried to blow up the house of David Lloyd George; one of Britain’s most famous politicians, who actually supported their cause. Not exactly the way to make friends and influence people…




By the time the law changed in 1918, Emmeline Pankhurst had called a ceasefire on the main movement, years earlier. It was the older and less exciting suffragists –generally more likely to start a petition than to spit in a policeman’s face – who saw things through to the bitter end. With women’s considerable contribution to the war effort and jurisdictions like Australia setting the precedent years earlier, success was surely inevitable… at some point.



...history tends to be written by the winners (and most of them were male). Without the WSPU’s audacious break with traditional methods, the movement would have been much easier to ignore. Suffragettes’ early non-violent protests have had a huge influence on activism today. And without the WSPU, splinter groups such as the Women’s Freedom League and Sylvia Pankhurst’s Workers’ Socialist Federation, and their huge contributions, would never have followed.

It is impossible to separate later extreme actions from the suffragettes’ considerable legacy. Without this legacy, it is impossible to know how long women in Britain would have had to wait.

French women for instance waited until 1944. Switzerland finally let women have their say in 1971. In Portugal, it was 1976.


Hmm, seems like the more radical elements of the movement seemed to achieve their goals earlier, while more moderate efforts took much longer. This seems contrary to your assertion that the Suffragette movement delayed Women's Suffrage. Grossly. But let's still give you the ol' BotD. I did another search, this time without feeling lucky, and what was the number one hit?

Resolved: Women's Suffrage Caused More Harm Than Good

Oh My God! It's been resolved then! William M. Briggs, self-proclaimed "statistician to the stars!" has so proclaimed it. Finally some certainty in this tipsy-toppy world! This is not cherry-picked, this is the very first paragraph:



If your first reaction upon reading the title was “Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat!” or “Frrrpppkwiliq boahh boahh boahh!” or some variant of “%&*&^%$##!”, then you have discovered the meaning of sacrilegious. Congratulations! You hold an idea that you consider beyond possibility of all discussion—just as ideologues do. But you also hold at least one thing sacred—and this is in your favor. If it’s the right thing.


Okay, sentence fragments aside, this guy has some chutzpah, I mean his by-line reads "BY BRIGGS MAY 6, 2017." I guess that's appropriate for a wordpress blog, for which the only contributor is the statistician to the stars, himself.

So what is the core of his argument?



Many, many married couples quickly found themselves voting against one another. The man would tend to vote for the more conservative platform, and the woman would vote for the more socialist platform. When this happened, the effective result was the nullification of BOTH individuals’ votes. What this did was massively reduce the voting influence of the married household, and magnify the voting influence of the unmarried — and the unmarried tend to be younger, and thus more stupid, and thus vote for big government.


I've been saying it for years, this is why the Mormons have it right! Enough with this "one male to one female" nonsense! Our very Republic is at stake! (Sarcasm is here indicated because the respondee has previously demonstrated a failure in the area of reading comprehension.)

Oh yeah, also women caused Prohibition, so f* them. If only there had been men, REAL men, and I don't mean those limp-wristed, progressive, biscotti-eating, latte-drinking, so-called men, I mean REAL men, the kind of men that ride horses and open doors for people, and have the common goddamn courtesy to spit NOT on the floor, but into the spittoon like a gentleman. Those men. They would NEVER have amended the US Constitution to prohibit alcohol. NEVER!

Okay, so that was fun. Here's the final thought from the Artist formally known as the statistician to the stars!



No. As detailed many times on this blog, suffrage has only expanded, and will continue to expand, both in eligibility and in matters. We recede from the Republic and inch ever closer to a true Democracy. And no small debate on an obscure site at the far edge of the Internet will change this. So do please relax and try not to take any of this personally.


Ah good. You know, I almost feel bad bringing his far edge of the internet here closer to the middle. Just think about that statement: "suffrage has only expanded, and will continue to expand, both in eligibility and in matters. We recede from the Republic and inch ever closer to a true Democracy." But sir, a Constitutional Republic requires democracy in order to function! So the more democracy you can muster(and I'm not talking about voter fraud, I'm talking about true representational democracy) the better, and the Republic functions better when it has better representation from the public! Not just land owners, not just men, or just women over an age disparate from that of men. Everyone.

So I've done my due diligence, I feel, for a free-to-join internet forum. What did I miss?



posted on Sep, 20 2019 @ 10:24 PM
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a reply to: Lumenari

Really, the US had a suffragette movement, probably stole it from the English equivelant
Didn't even know the US had a movement

Please feel free to tell me about the US copy of the Brits suffragettes, who had the right to vote in the US and who didn't, please tell me who changed the people in power to allow women to vote.
Let me guess, men who voted for change, men voted for women to have the right to vote, to let women vote
When were colored people allowed to vote, none land owners, do you know

A reasonable person making a reasonable request will be tolerated, listened to and there argument will be valued over bra burning, ranting, malcontents waving placards and throwing themselves in front of horses

Common sense?

I believe in equality, not ignorance and stupidity

en.m.wikipedia.org...
White men who didn't own land could not vote either

You don't know your own history


As for women voting, in political positions, that's great, proud of the men who went before me and opened the door for their loved ones to have an equal say about government and decisions

Just don't believe that radicals are going to be listened to and considered over rationale






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posted on Sep, 20 2019 @ 10:30 PM
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So a young woman found a couple of paper signs. Paper signs extolling a Muslim vision about women. Is she leftist or rightist. By some accounts, this would be an affront to conservatives, but somehow this woman is labeled a leftist. I don't know that, how can anyone else. She went to the cops and they said it was free speech but took down the signs taped to public property. Are the police the leftists here?

So this town seems a small town and the local news did a spot on it as there seems little more going on in this town. Is the local media leftist here?

Then we see another video of a dude rampaging against leftists and going on and on about leftists this and leftists that with no question in his mind that he could be anything but absolutely right about it all, Meanwhile, this grown man is producing a video from what appears to be a small room that is decorated with fanboy posters of super heroes and stacked with Star Wars toys.

Case closed. Leftists are bad? Must be huh?



posted on Sep, 20 2019 @ 10:34 PM
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a reply to: Zelun

You missed some men not having the right to vote, you missed WW1 and women working, you missed non land owners, you missed everything that counters your argument

Can't help you, I won't, believe what you want
And a lucky Google search, well done you
Exactly what Google wants you to believe

Crazy argumentative people always get what they want? Really?
Common sense out the window, this is ats after all



posted on Sep, 20 2019 @ 10:36 PM
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a reply to: Lumenari


Then I am going to flame you off the thread.


Yeah, you show more restraint than me. I pretty much started flaming immediately.



posted on Sep, 20 2019 @ 10:37 PM
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a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Your Simplistic Pretzel Logic is a bit to Twisted there Monkey Man , Think Again , your First Assumption is True , Leftists are Bad................Logic and Reason Trumps Personal Feelings and Emotions .......



posted on Sep, 20 2019 @ 10:41 PM
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a reply to: stosh64

The radical NPC crowd can think whatever they want. Their thoughts and feeling mean nothing to anyone, but the person they see staring back at them in the mirror.




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