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Trump-Giuliani has Ukraine Investigating former V.P. Joe Biden for Illegal Coercion.

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posted on Sep, 23 2019 @ 07:21 PM
If true it should outrage all of us... but after 3 years of dont look behind the curtain just trust us Russian collusion … I cant be bothered to care, the democrats opened pandoras box and have made every excuse under the sun and as usual the republicans will come in and do it more effectively and to greater longer lasting harm.

posted on Sep, 23 2019 @ 08:29 PM
a reply to: xuenchen

I will say this looks bad for Biden. His son goes with him to china next thing you know Hunter has a billion dollar deal with China. Obama puts Biden in charge of Ukrainian policy and his son is offered a position on a board. And Hunter had no experience in the gas industry yet managed to get on the board of a billion dollar company. Got a salary of 50000 a month for 2 years when his only prior experience is the navy and hedge fund operator.

So why would they hire him in fact put him on their board? Only thing i can think of is they knew dad was in charge of Ukrainian aid.

posted on Sep, 23 2019 @ 10:26 PM

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: mtnshredder

Shokin was appointed General Prosecutor of Ukraine on 10 February 2015. He became deeply unpopular and was accused of blocking major cases against allies and influential figures and hindering the fight against corruption in Ukraine. Various street protests demanding Shokin's resignation were held and his Deputy Prosecutor, Vitaly Kasko, resigned on 15 February 2016 denouncing the corruption and lawlessness of the Prosecutor's office. US Vice-President Joe Biden lobbied for Shokin resignation and the Obama Administration withheld a billion dollars in loan guarantees for the time Shokin held office.

Prosecutor General Shokin on 16 February 2016 submitted a letter of resignation. Although the next day an official of the prosecution office stated "As far as I know he has taken a paid leave". On 19 February 2016 presidential press secretary Sviatoslav Tsegolko wrote on Twitter that the presidential administration had received an official letter of resignation from Shokin. On 16 March 2016 an official of the prosecution office stated that Shokin had resumed his work. On 16 March 2016 Shokin had not been formally dismissed. Shokin was formally dismissed in a parliamentary vote on 29 March 2016. Following his dismissal Shokin went into retirement.


The European Union has welcomed the dismissal of Ukraine’s scandal-ridden prosecutor general and called for a crackdown on corruption, even as the country’s political crisis deepened over efforts to form a new ruling coalition and appoint a new prime minister.

Ukraine’s parliament voted overwhelmingly to fire Viktor Shokin, ridding the beleaguered prosecutor’s office of a figure who is accused of blocking major cases against allies and influential figures and stymying moves to root out graft.

“This decision creates an opportunity to make a fresh start in the prosecutor general’s office. I hope that the new prosecutor general will ensure that [his] office . . . becomes independent from political influence and pressure and enjoys public trust,” said Jan Tombinski, the EU’s envoy to Ukraine.

“There is still a lack of tangible results of investigations into serious cases . . . as well as investigations of high-level officials within the prosecutor general’s office,” he added.

Well let’s not forget about this lil tidbit you left out.....

But then, as Biden's 2020 campaign ramped up over the past year, Lutsenko - the Ukrainian prosecutor that Biden once hailed as a "solid" replacement for Shokin - began looking into what happened with the Burisma case that had been shut down.

Lutsenko told me that, while reviewing the Burisma investigative files, he discovered "members of the Board obtained funds as well as another U.S.-based legal entity, Rosemont Seneca Partners LLC, for consulting services." Lutsenko said some of the evidence he knows about in the Burisma case may interest U.S. authorities and he'd like to present that information to new U.S. Attorney General William Barr, particularly the vice president's intervention. "Unfortunately, Mr. Biden had correlated and connected this aid with some of the HR (personnel) issues and changes in the prosecutor's office," Lutsenko said.

Nazar Kholodnytskyi, the lead anti-corruption prosecutor in Lutsenko's office, confirmed to me in an interview that part of the Burisma investigation was reopened in 2018, after Joe Biden made his remarks. "We were able to start this case again," Kholodnytskyi said.


But what makes Lutsenko's account compelling is that federal authorities in America, in an entirely different case, uncovered financial records showing just how much Hunter Biden's and Archer's company received from Burisma while Joe Biden acted as Obama's point man on Ukraine. Between April 2014 and October 2015, more than $3 million was paid out of Burisma accounts to an account linked to Biden's and Archer's Rosemont Seneca firm, according to the financial records placed in a federal court file in Manhattan in an unrelated case against Archer. The bank records show that, on most months when Burisma money flowed, two wire transfers of $83,333.33 each were sent to the Rosemont Seneca-connected account on the same day. The same Rosemont Seneca-linked account typically then would pay Hunter Biden one or more payments ranging from $5,000 to $25,000 each. Prosecutors reviewed internal company documents and wanted to interview Hunter Biden and Archer about why they had received such payments, according to interviews.

And this......

As for Joe Biden's intervention in getting Lutsenko's predecessor fired in the midst of the Burisma investigation, Lutsenko suggested that was a matter to discuss with Attorney General Barr: "Of course, I would be happy to have a conversation with him about this issue."

Nonetheless, some hard questions should be answered by Biden as he prepares, potentially, to run for president in 2020: Was it appropriate for your son and his firm to cash in on Ukraine while you served as point man for Ukraine policy? What work was performed for the money Hunter Biden's firm received? Did you know about the Burisma probe? And when it was publicly announced that your son worked for Burisma, should you have recused yourself from leveraging a U.S. policy to pressure the prosecutor who very publicly pursued Burisma?

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So yeah there’s that too.

posted on Sep, 23 2019 @ 11:19 PM
If the Ukraine investigates and there’s nothing to implicate Biden(s) then no problem.

I would love to watch MSM if the Ukraine Govt had Barr prepare a summary of the investigation findings. That would be the ultimate trigger.

posted on Sep, 24 2019 @ 12:04 AM
Biden's son did something wrong and Biden used the influence of our government to cover it up. How come Trump waited so long to start an investigation into this and how come our intelligence agencies did not start an investigation of their own.

How come we only get to choose from dishonest deceitful people to run for president? I guess an honest person would never get elected.
edit on 24-9-2019 by rickymouse because: (no reason given)

posted on Sep, 24 2019 @ 07:27 AM
a reply to: mtnshredder

And? What is your point?


Was it appropriate for your son and his firm to cash in on Ukraine while you served as point man for Ukraine policy?

Was it appropriate for Jared Kushner to obtain a $1 billion dollar personal bailout from middle east financers? Was it appropriate for Ivanka Trump to accept dozens of Trademark licenses from China while serving as her father's advisor on China trade? Or to accept $100 Million for her "woman's" project from Saudi Arabia? Was it appropriate for Don Jr and Eric to globe trot and influence peddle from their position on the Trump Org? Or to make arrangements for the Scottish airport to send US Airforce staff to Trump's Hotel in Turnberry?

Glass houses and bad timing.

posted on Sep, 24 2019 @ 07:32 AM
a reply to: Sookiechacha

so you spread falsehoods to make your point sookie??

OBAMA allowed the miltary stays

Maybe you should update your screed a bit there darling.

(look it up)

posted on Sep, 24 2019 @ 08:24 AM
a reply to: thedigirati

OBAMA allowed the miltary stays

After all this, that's all you got?

And, BTW, Turnberry was closed for renovations when the airport deal during the Obama Administration was negotiated. So, no he didn't. Turnberry didn't open until June 24th, 2016.

The Obama Administration had nothing to do with the Trump Org negotiating with the airport officials Airforce stopover referrals at Turnberry, and the US government stays at Turnberry has exponentially sky rocketed since Trump's election.

posted on Sep, 24 2019 @ 09:56 AM
a reply to: Sookiechacha
I guess you need to refer back to my first post in thread.

posted on Sep, 29 2019 @ 10:46 AM
The Obama-Biden White House chastised the liberal media in 2014 for having the audacity to report on Joe Biden's corrupt methods of helping his son, Hunter Biden.

From October 2014:

Hillary Clinton used the "dirt" on Joe as leverage, to keep him from running against her in the 2015/2016 election cycle.

posted on Sep, 29 2019 @ 04:16 PM

"We are writing today with grave concern that you continue to book Rudy Giuliani on your air to spread false, debunked conspiracy theories on behalf of Donald Trump,” Biden campaign advisers wrote to networks.

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