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UFO's on the moon?

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posted on Sep, 24 2019 @ 12:19 AM
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a reply to: JimOberg

I have the greatest of respect for you Mr Oberg and know that you have spent a great deal of your life working for NASA and that given the complexity of the contracts keeping many thing's a secret there especially from people like yourself whom are an unofficial spokesperson for the organisation (and whom I do not believe would deliberately be involved in a cover up if you knew about it unless it was for the very best reason) would be nearly - nearly - impossible but NOT impossible.

Remember your government and even your agency work in a compartmentalized fashion and this allows private contractors for example to make parts without ever knowing what they will eventually be used for.


Also there is something that I feel is pertinent.

A lot of peoples in this world had legend's of a lost golden age, of a war in heaven and of humanity being punished and having to atone to the heaven's, some resorted to sacrifice to try to appease these invisible sky deity's and other's had hero's that fought them such as the (asia) Indian's.

But likewise many have legend's of a great flood and a natural catastrophe, a cometary strike on the glaciers during the last ice age causing tidal waves and a rapid sea level rise could be the basis if human oral traditions can be shown to last that long other than the new debunking argument about the flooding of the black sea.

Indeed one of your greatest astronaut's James Irwin was absolutely convinced and spent the latter years of his life searching for this very object.
www.noahsark.it...
(not only a scientist and astronaut but a devout Christian and a very nice guy by all account's, a worthy hero but not the biggest name from the Apollo era)

Then again how does a multi billion dollar organization like yours lose valuable data - degaussing the tapes come on man that simply does not happen unless they needed the old tape reels on an old computer system which by the time they were checked out from your national archives and then lost was absolutely no longer in use at that time, it was the age of floppy discs by that time period and even those early discs help a lot more than a stack of those older tapes.

Hey remember that guy that found a load of old NASA tapes in his basement and how they worked to rebuild one of those old computers to try to read what was on them.

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posted on Sep, 24 2019 @ 09:31 AM
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originally posted by: LABTECH767
Just another thing.



If you want to discuss people telling lies about what's on the moon, then there is a large pack of them in this video.



posted on Sep, 24 2019 @ 11:18 AM
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a reply to: LABTECH767

The Apollo-11 "transcript" you seem to have fallen for is an utterly inane fabrication. What's so hard about believing that?



posted on Sep, 24 2019 @ 02:59 PM
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Mr Oberg if I may pick your brain for a moment what is your interpretation of this.
c8.alamy.com...
I mean is that dust devils of the aftermath of devastation.

And


I mean is this dust devil's or the aftermath of devastation just a lot older - a whole lot older - than Nagasaki.
www.marsruins.com...

But I digress we are very unlikely to see eye to eye on this and in fact neither are any people that should choose to look and to then think for themselves rather than having other people's interpretation taken as gospel.

And there was war in heaven, Michael and his angels waging war with the dragon. The dragon and his angels waged war, and they were not strong enough, and there was no longer a place found for them in heaven.

Though Nagasaki was hit by a single atomic blast rather than carpet bombed so here are some carpet bomb images as well note the relatively even size of the craters and how perhaps more important targets received larger bomb's creating larger craters.
imgc.allpostersimages.com... devastated-city.jpg
timedotcom.files.wordpress.com...
i2.cdn.turner.com...

You may have your own opinion but that mars site sure look's like the ruins of an ancient - modern style - city on the shores of a dead sea that was destroyed at least partially deliberately by what look's like a whole load of carpet bombing.
And of course there is Brandenburg's theory about the planet dying as a result of nuclear war, a conclusion he came to reluctantly due to the isotopic evidence and would have kept silent about fearing for his reputation except that he has a conscience and so decided to offer evidence he felt was too solid to ignore that of the isotopic ratio's being wrong for a natural event and correct for a fission type blast or rather at least two such event's, one perhaps the plant killer having been made by a device which if we built it with today's technology for us to replicate that blast would take a device roughly the size of the empire state building (with our technology - at least in term's of an ordinary nuclear device).

no longer a place found for them in heaven.



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posted on Sep, 24 2019 @ 10:01 PM
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The bomb photo shows smoke plumes all in the same direction, windward. Why wouldn't any kinds of plumes anywhere line up with wind direction?

How many scientists and space engineers from how many different countries have to be liars to make your interpretation viable? 200? 2000? 20,000?



posted on Sep, 25 2019 @ 09:29 AM
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Hi Jim, what's your take on the Lunar Transient Phenomena? Did Vodafone Germany's 4G lunar network project pushed through?

Links: science.nasa.gov
harvard.edu for the LTP catalogue
arxiv.org for a pdf copy or ntrs.nasa.gov

I can't link the space.com article "The Moon Will Get Its Own Mobile Phone Network in 2019" will post it later.
space.com

Could this be the reason behind the OP's recent lunar activity? (Wink, wink)
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posted on Sep, 25 2019 @ 08:36 PM
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That's hilarious they are planning to use the moon for mobile phones, probably a publicity stunt (or to screen something else) since I mean were are the customers.

Still as a multi project mission just to test out the viability of a lunar based microwave communications array I can see it's merit - still think it's probably just a publicity stunt though and more to impress the Asian market than ours by the look of it, that of they want to get in on what may become a lucrative position in future markets - just a tad bit too early perhaps but I suppose you can't blame them for trying to put there foot in the corporate door, however the moon is property of all or none and open only to those that can get there BUT of course there are corporate plans even if they never go any further than plans to extract helium 3 from the surface material as indeed there are for asteroid mining network's and those will indeed need communication's arrays so maybe, just maybe even while likely realistically about 50 or more years too early a very canny move indeed but being first does not necessarily mean they will be the one's that get used if and when that does happen however as a corporate asset a department specialized in this will have potential stock market impact in the future and even earlier as speculative investors may come on board as a result.



posted on Sep, 26 2019 @ 08:50 AM
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Well yet another thread of very poor quality video of objects in our atmsophere and no where near the Moon.

This a REAL HQ Moon video at 2:58 you see something pass in the field of view and not above the Moon surface




posted on Oct, 13 2019 @ 09:03 AM
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What An X-NSA Agent Taught Me About War In the Cosmos


This 17 min report by Dave Hodges talks about a conservation with Vance, an X-NSA agent and part of his NATO training. There has been a war in the cosmos going on forever. God has cast out 1/3 of the fallen angels in the heavens. The rest have set up shop on Earth, been part of our heritage for a long time.




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