It's the Guns

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“I’m not gonna say that there’s no connection, but every other country on the planet has social media, video games, online harassment, hate groups, crime, and mental health issues. But they don’t have mass shootings like we do,” Senator Tammy Duckworth said this morning. “Nothing highlights the absurdity of Congress’s inability to solve the gun violence crisis like seeing 318 mass shootings in 260 days and then holding a hearing on extremism in social media.”

Americans do not spend an exceptional amount of time on social media Americans do spend a comparatively greater amount of time playing video games, but that... Neither of those numbers are remotely proportionate with the number of gun deaths—a figure which tracks most closely with (and now might be a good time to feign shock if you’ve looked at the news at any point since Columbine) the number of guns people own in the U.S.

Common sense eludes the American public.

In a Democracy (or Republic or whatever you want to call it), if you have to raise arms against a tyrannical government, YOU HAVE ALREADY LOST.

“A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
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How does the USA handling of mental illness compare against those other countries in comparison?

There are many causes in each shooting. Blaming hundreds of millions of people for the actions of the few bad ones is supposed to be wrong these days, right?

Or does that not apply to our rights here in the USA?

Are we banning cars next since it's also a tool that when operated incorrectly or illegally kills millions a year?

originally posted by: ErEhWoN
gizmodo.com...

“I’m not gonna say that there’s no connection, but every other country on the planet has social media, video games, online harassment, hate groups, crime, and mental health issues. But they don’t have mass shootings like we do,” Senator Tammy Duckworth said this morning. “Nothing highlights the absurdity of Congress’s inability to solve the gun violence crisis like seeing 318 mass shootings in 260 days and then holding a hearing on extremism in social media.”

Americans do not spend an exceptional amount of time on social media Americans do spend a comparatively greater amount of time playing video games, but that... Neither of those numbers are remotely proportionate with the number of gun deaths—a figure which tracks most closely with (and now might be a good time to feign shock if you’ve looked at the news at any point since Columbine) the number of guns people own in the U.S.

Common sense eludes the American public.

In a Democracy (or Republic or whatever you want to call it), if you have to raise arms against a tyrannical government, YOU HAVE ALREADY LOST.

First off, there weren't 318 "mass shootings". The vast majority of those shooting are gang related, not the random nut job shooting up a movie theatre or school that the media likes to sensationalize.

Those are exceedingly rare.

Gun violence in the US is largely a gang problem and highly concentrated in urban black communities.

Other countries generally don't have large black underclass populations or a street gang culture. If you strip these two factors out of the data, I'd bet you see the US is no different that Europe in regards to gun violence.

a reply to: shooterbrody
Yep, well-regulated...

Got it

Are we banning cars next since it's also a tool that when operated incorrectly or illegally kills millions a year?

a reply to: Middleoftheroad

Are you implying we should register and insure ALL firearms?

I think thats a great idea!

Glad you thought of it!

a reply to: ErEhWoN

Well America has more people in jail than any other country and blacks make up a very large number of those in jail...

So it's the blacks...

And why does everyone seem to forget that columbine was a failed bombing?
The guns were the backup plan...

a reply to: ErEhWoN

It’s a Constutional Right.

*shrugs*

Can’t just take that away because “much feels”.

originally posted by: ErEhWoN
a reply to: shooterbrody
Yep, well-regulated...

Got it

You do understand what "well regulated" means in that context of the 18th Century. right? Hint, it does NOT mean more restrictive laws.

What does it mean you may ask?
Well, it actually means well trained, in good order, as in ensuring the firearms are in working order, cleaned and the people well trained in their use.

I can provide a link to an 18th Century dictionary to back this all up if needed.


DENY IGNORANCE

a reply to: Edumakated

Also look at legal definitions of Mass Shooting. In the US, four wounded or killed or any combination (which can include the shooter) is a mass shooting. In Australia, five dead (not counting the shooter) or it is not a mass shooting.

So 75,000 wounded and two dead is NOT a mass shooting in Australia. Father takes out wife and two kids before turning the gun on himself IS a mass shooting even if no one died.

a reply to: ErEhWoN

So the US has never had guns? If it's the guns explain why this is a recent phenomenon.

What if it isnt the guns?

Serious question.

Especially considering the consequences for going after firearms on what is essentially an ideological whim.

Dismantling the constitution wont end well, even if you personally believe guns are the whole kit'n'kaboodle of the problem.

That said, most of the time these topics tend to come from individuals who have either been sheltered by urban life, or live in a different country. Neither is "bad," necessarily, but they can be indicative of a disconnect and ignorance. Especially when it comes pacakaged in arrogance and a lack of self-awareness.. Which is all too frequently the case.

What s your point exactly? And why arent you concerned about ...say....Mexico? Mass shootings every day there....12000 peeps dead last year. Or dont you care about brown people? Are you racist or something?

originally posted by: Ahabstar
a reply to: Edumakated

Also look at legal definitions of Mass Shooting. In the US, four wounded or killed or any combination (which can include the shooter) is a mass shooting. In Australia, five dead (not counting the shooter) or it is not a mass shooting.

So 75,000 wounded and two dead is NOT a mass shooting in Australia. Father takes out wife and two kids before turning the gun on himself IS a mass shooting even if no one died.

Exactly, that is my point.

A block party here in Chicago gets shot up by gang members trying to shoot their rivals it gets classified as a "mass shooting" if 4 are wounded the same as Sandy Hook. The two are not remotely related in the way the public thinks of "mass shootings".

Mass shootings are exceedingly rare statistically. This is not to say they aren't tragic, but they also are nearly as common as the media would have everyone believe. The 24 hour news cycle and coverage makes rare things look common.

a reply to: Edumakated

You are spot on.

But, the gun control/confiscation bunch will never explain it truthfully. They are either complicit in the weakening of the American people, or too dumb and naive to see the bigger long term picture.

This is a battle We The People will fight over and over...the right to Keep and Bear Arms shall not be infringed.

Don't give up. Don't give in. The day Americans are disarmed, the entire world will change for the worse. This is the one battle that has to be fought relentlessly, firmly, passionately, and uncompromisingly.

Confiscating guns will cause the largest concentration of mass shootings the US has ever seen and the death toll will be unimaginable.

is not the US the most over medicated country in the world? Maybe we should look into that before talking about limiting the constitution. Also crime has dropped across the board in everything except mass shooting it seems, makes one wonder if some nefarious entity is involved. Was it not a day or so after Epsteins suicide (murder?) we had two mass shootings, all of the sudden no one spoke of Epsteins friends and it was back on about mass shootings.

originally posted by: Serdgiam
What if it isnt the guns?

Serious question.

Especially considering the consequences for going after firearms on what is essentially an ideological whim.

Dismantling the constitution wont end well, even if you personally believe guns are the whole kit'n'kaboodle of the problem.

That said, most of the time these topics tend to come from individuals who have either been sheltered by urban life, or live in a different country. Neither is "bad," necessarily, but they can be indicative of a disconnect and ignorance. Especially when it comes pacakaged in arrogance and a lack of self-awareness.. Which is all too frequently the case.

A big problem is that the side arguing for gun control is completely ignorant of the facts, data, and terminology. It is almost impossible to have a reasoned discussion on solutions when one side can't even educate themselves on basic terminology and facts. Just the fact we have the media constantly talking about "Assault Weapons" should be a clue. There is NO SUCH THING.

Here is a video of Ted Cruz having a discussion with Alyssa Milano who doesn't know guns from her elbow. Ted is trying to educate her on some very basic facts. Notice how he explains that for all intents and purposes, AK-47s are illegal and have been since the like 1936. Yet, you have politicians and pundits running around talking like Ak-47s can be bought at Wal-Mart. Most recently we had Pres. Candidate Beto making an absurd claim that peopel will need to turn in their AKs as if the general public can buy one!

While we're at it, let's ban drugs too!!.
That'll work great!

.....Oh wait

Sarcasm aside...meh. Another gun grabbers wet dream that's going nowhere.I
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