This photo hasn't been seen anywhere else but here on ATS. Nobody had any chance to edit/conceal/flatten or otherwise manipulate it. It wasn't
indexed. Had to use automated means to request this and thousands of others and just so happened to get lucky and come across this
Next, I'll show you how many roads/tracks/trails lead up to the anomaly.
For comparison, the US government recently accused Iran of having a secret underground installation (buried in a mountain) based on far fewer
observables. In this case, we not only have tracks/paths/roads/etc but the clear line of hangars exactly where Bob said they would be. We don't need
absolute proof of something, only that the evidence Pro-argument outweighs the evidence Con-argument. That is called "high confidence" and wars have
been fought with far less evidence. S4 Papoose Lake is real. It is there and it is real.
If we operated on the "absolute proof" standard, well.... easy to see why it wouldn't work out. Science doesn't understand everything. For instance,
do you believe Einstein is lying about "Spooky action at a distance" ? Science doesn't understand why/how entangled pairs can act on each other at FTL
speeds but they do
Anyhow, enjoyed your parody image Best findings yet!
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originally posted by: JBurns
Anyhow, enjoyed your parody image Best findings yet!
When I first started reading your post, I was worried and thought you were coming for me when all I was doing was something that struck me as funny. I
wasn't mocking or making fun of anyone or anything. I find this whole thing fascinating and love reading about all this stuff.
Keep up the good work! For sure things are going on they don't want us to know about.
Here is a graphic showing some size comparisons between the area surrounding Papoose and common items/locations from Groom Lake and one is even from
Las Vegas (showing cars and semi's). This helps with determining size and scale
I'd downvote this if I could. There's no reason to be flippant.
Read the room.
ETA: and further, in my opinion, OP was being nice by laughing at your joke and appreciating you even took a look at it. You have to understand, by
now, that the degree of ridicule this subject has received, even after that ridicule has been outed as an overt dis-info tactic(if you didn't know
that, read the Robertson Panel, et al). If I had found something I thought was interesting enough to share, and you photoshopped the product of my
work to make a hilarious meme, my response would not have been nearly as kind.
Why don't you try contributing to the thread, using your clearly well-advised graphics arts degree, to either prove or disprove the assertions of the
OP, in good faith.
And you probably don't deserve this tirade, you probably just managed to be the one to hit the pressure-relief valve.
originally posted by: Xeven
a reply to: JBurns
It is obvious something is out there that is either alien or from the future and maybe both.
We are not alone and we have the proof now.
Or it's from the present and the science behind it is classified deeper than deep, just like every other project coming out of the Nellis range.
I remember an anecdote about the SR-71, I believe, that involved mounting the airframe up on a post so we could test it's radar cross-section in a
controlled fashion. We knew when the USSR spy satellites were within view, so during those times we'd have to put a tarp over it. The Russians managed
to infer the shape of the thing up on the mast by analyzing the heat signature of it's shadow on the desert surface, over many iterations.
These "ufos" that come up in tabloid reporting, I think, are largely fully terrestrial contraptions. I believe the mechanism of their propulsion has
been public knowledge for decades(nearly a century now), but is considered "fringe" and discounted by pop-science reporting. I think poor Bob was used
as a conduit for disinformation. You don't need an antimatter reaction to achieve gravitic propulsion, I think a small nuclear reactor would suffice.
One of the aneutronic fusion reactors Philo Farnsworth broke ground on(yes, the inventor of television,) I think, would do nicely. At first,
especially for the little "sport models" Lazar was describing, I think the gigawatt range of discretionary power would suffice. But that was back in
the '50s-'60s. Imagine what we can do now! Phoenix lights ring a bell?
These public demonstrations are meant to reinforce this notion that this deep, dark, secret part of what used to be termed as the MIC, but now is more
like the Military, Industrial, Computational, Financial, Intelligence Complex(MICFIC) needs more power and influence in order to combat this "alien
threat," thus the phased disclosure of Navy footage of their own test flights, yada yada. I'm sure this has been pointed out before, but the 'Gimbal'
footage is named as such because it was filmed on a gimbal, which is a type of camera mount. In other words, they classified the footage by the means
by which it was filmed. Doesn't that raise any eyebrows? As if the filmed object was less important than the type of camera mount used...
I know, I know, for some reason Google Earth in all of its accuracy can't be counted on due to some obscure feature of terrain stretching. Very
complicated. That's why I did the runaround on GE and found this unlisted/uncategorized decade-old gem on NASA.gov
Closer examination reveals:
S-4 @ Papoose Lake, shown above
This isn't a natural feature, nor does any part of the lake share these anomalies. Additionally, dozens+ sets of tracks lead directly to the entrance
of this facility. The same facility Bob Lazar revealed without the help of satellite imagery and such. No possible way he just so happened to draw a
bead on the precise location sporting these very unusual anomalies (consistent with hidden hangar doors, in fact)
Care to refute those findings? Can you show me another natural formation sporting 9 indentations precisely as Bob said there would be?
For the record, without the DEM data this location shows up relatively flat on GE despite the anomalies still being present.
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Furthermore, we have a credible eye-witness to more than one claim by Lazar. There is just too much there, and the efforts against him reak of
Bob is a credible, genuine guy. The government? Proven liars with a corrupt agenda who are never trustworthy. Bob has presented fact after fact, while
the government has never taken a single step to address the story that put GL on the map and revealed (IMO) the innermost details of our government's
illegal activities (up to and including the crime of hiding these craft, suppression of science, etc)
If there's nothing at Papoose, why not simply escort George Knapp and others out there to see it themselves? In my experience, folks only hide things
when they are lying about something and don't want to get spanked for it.
Can anybody help me locate the name of the Air Force service member's testimony RE: S-4 from the latest episode of the TV program "Ancient Aliens"
Yes, very tabloid-esque show. Still, great research/researchers and this guy was no different
In fact, an indepedent witness (confirmed to work at Groom) stated that a small group did in fact board the blacked-out bus and head south.
Additionally he claimed to have known about "S-4" itself (at least in passing) despite not knowing its purpose.
First off stuff in overheads can look like alot of stuff and at the resolution commercial images are its easy to see one thing when its another
Back in like 2005 here on ATS we had a research groom looking into Groom Lake and we also looks a bit at Papoose. One fo the things we noted when we
pulled the USGS 7.5 minute topos for the area there are quite a few uranium mines in and around the Papoose Range and Groom. Those hanger doors could
very well be tailing piles.
If you interested in a deeper dive and analysis Tom Mahood's primer is an excellent start. Its a bit dated but its not like there is a ton of new
stuff out there anyway www.otherhand.org...
Fair warning both Mr. Mahood and myself think Lazars claims and the possibility that S4 (FYI the whole Site 4 stuff is actually a spot at the TTR) is
the alien hanger is nonsense
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