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NASA and GE imagery of Papoose lake show anomalies

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posted on Sep, 17 2019 @ 07:05 PM
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(Warning, some of these photos are very high resolution and load slow on old connections)


An edit of the NASA image, showing what is to me clearly some sort of structure in precisely the location pointed to by Lazar.


Nice shot of the Groom/NTS/Nellis Range complex. Nothing anomalous in this photo, just a nice overview of that area's geography


High quality shot of Groom with Papoose in the background.


Take a look at the "teardrop" and suspected hangar area. Doesn't necessarily look at all like the other areas in the photo, and it even appears to have contrasting straight lines. Any photoshop magic that can be used here? To clean the picture up some


Lots of tracks in this area, zooms in pretty far too at decent quality









Unsure what to make of it, but plenty of straight lines and unusual looking areas directly where Lazar's coordinates point to. Thoughts?
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posted on Sep, 17 2019 @ 07:48 PM
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OK! Whatever you say boss.
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posted on Sep, 17 2019 @ 08:01 PM
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I'm not sure what we are looking at, or where we are supposed to focus on these images. Could you please mark them in some way and tell us what to look for?



posted on Sep, 17 2019 @ 08:15 PM
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a reply to: snrRog
If there were any tracks to be seen, what I saw must have been made by a drunken antelope or 2, or 10.



posted on Sep, 17 2019 @ 08:36 PM
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a reply to: JBurns

Not sure what you see.

Does this help?




posted on Sep, 17 2019 @ 09:52 PM
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Hello friends, allow me to walk you through what I am convinced is the S-4 facility Bob Lazar described.



files.abovetopsecret.com...

In this image, I drew a box around the installation and adjusted contrast/brightness/etc. This is an image from one of the NASA satellites, unsure which one but I got it by typing in "JSC NASA satellite earth view" and geographically searching that region. The photos had to be "requested" which tells me they were not indexed and possibly yet unseen. The contrasted photo is from NASA's picture: files.abovetopsecret.com...

Look at the base of the jag marked inside the box. You will see what I believe are the hangar doors facing one of the two large circular-like areas just adjacent to the lake bed. This stands in stark contrast to the surrounding hills/jags.

I will go through each photo individually to prevent information from becoming cluttered



posted on Sep, 17 2019 @ 10:10 PM
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google maps

For anyone interested, this is the area in question to search at your own discretion. Some of the forced perspectives from OP's photos make some interesting features but Google's imagery is pretty sharp in this area and there just isn't anything there other than normal rock features similar to the surrounding area.

Was kinda curious given the, um, strangeness and lack of information of OPs post but alas, desert.
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posted on Sep, 17 2019 @ 10:22 PM
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a reply to: JBurns

Hey, first I say good effort.

I, for one, just don't see anything other than natural erosion patterns.

Totally cool pics however, thank you for those, I looked very closely over them.

cheers



posted on Sep, 17 2019 @ 10:23 PM
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a reply to: CharlesT

You mean like the unmarked tracks splitting off from the North access road directly toward S-4?




Or the dozen+ tracks made around the installation? I have poor vision and can make them out just fine. Even did a measurement confirming their width is consistent with a Blue Bird school bus





Or the countless examples of those "naturally occurring" geometric shapes & straight lines that generally do not occur in nature (and certainly not so many times in just one place)



Or when Google shills do things like this. There is imagery before and after this date.



And of course, the one that matters...



No red herrings, please. Any individual here can reproduce the image above and a concerted look at that area will show anomalies with tracks leading to and around those anomalies.
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posted on Sep, 17 2019 @ 10:28 PM
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a reply to: CalibratedZeus

eol.jsc.nasa.gov...



That didn't come from Google Earth.

Came directly from NASA's JSC. The image wasn't even indexed on their website until I used an automated means to request it. It is quite possible the image (still available on NASA.gov domain) is just now being seen for the first time.

Someone care to confirm this via Google image search or elsewise?
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posted on Sep, 17 2019 @ 10:28 PM
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originally posted by: CalibratedZeus
google maps

For anyone interested, this is the area in question to search at your own discretion. Some of the forced perspectives from OP's photos make some interesting features but Google's imagery is pretty sharp in this area and there just isn't anything there other than normal rock features similar to the surrounding area.

Was kinda curious given the, um, strangeness and lack of information of OPs post but alas, desert.


Looking closely, there is a distinct road leading form Area 51 to this particular teardrop shape on Papoose Lake. So, there must be something there for a distinct road to exist in this desert location.



posted on Sep, 17 2019 @ 10:30 PM
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a reply to: Lr103

Thank you Lr103


I appreciate your time and effort



posted on Sep, 17 2019 @ 10:44 PM
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Looks like the my contrast image is based on a photo that doesn't exist on the web outside the NASA.gov domain



Here are the zoomed in versions of the contrasted image I made from the NASA image in question





No other part of the Papoose area/range show this anomaly. Don't take my word for it, zoom the image, play with the contrast/colors, see what you can find. Looks like a facility to me
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posted on Sep, 17 2019 @ 11:04 PM
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a reply to: JBurns

Thank you for your post.
And I'm just going to come right out and say it...I believe Bob Lazar, always have.



posted on Sep, 17 2019 @ 11:32 PM
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a reply to: MissSmartypants

Thank you!

I believe Bob Lazar as well

I have no doubt that at one point (possibly even still) no less than 9 ETV's were housed in the NV desert at Papoose Dry Lake

This is the closest I've ever come to tangible evidence. There is no logical explanation for these shapes to appear in the precise location Lazar pointed to, nor is there any logical reason (outside of a facility) for their to be roads and tracks leading to these anomalies

I am working diligently to get these NASA.gov photos indexed to prove they are legitimately sourced. I don't want them erasing the evidence like they did that time we exposed the White House bunker using Truman library photos (which have since disappeared)


www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.trumanlibrary.gov...

www.trumanlibrary.gov...

files.abovetopsecret.com... ^Photo they scrubbed off the net

"Page not found"

Happened a few months after I posted that thread in RATS... so believe it folks, the Gov does censor these things in cooperation with their own agencies and private corps. ATS thankfully didn't censor it though, the thread is still available here and so are my ATS uploads/personal backups. But the Truman library itself has scrubbed any reference to the photo and apparently they weren't archived by archive.org. And anyone who thinks this public imagery isn't useful for finding hidden FACS should get the details straight, open source intelligence is used in 80%+ of intelligence community work

Please download or archive this before it disappears
eol.jsc.nasa.gov...

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posted on Sep, 18 2019 @ 11:39 AM
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Here's the large overview properly noted





Again, this was another image pulled down from the NASA domain showing the area. Since I couldn't find it elsewhere, I decided to include it because you never know what will be useful to whom and when

Great overview of the area in question



posted on Sep, 18 2019 @ 03:47 PM
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source 1: www.abovetopsecret.com... - The Navy Says Those UFO Videos Are Real

source 2: www.popularmechanics.com... - ""



youtu.be... - Same video, indexed to "Gimbal".. video starts at 3:32



This is the UAP seen in the Gimbal video, the same video authenticated by the Navy. It operates the same way Lazar described, including the description of the "belly first" flight, extremely low temperature around the craft and so on.

I would be interested to see standard physics as known today describe this craft and how it does what it does. The other videos are equally interesting, but the resemblance to Lazar's information is uncanny.

Has anyone other than Lazar described "belly first" flight characteristics? That was always a part that stood out to me as unique. He simply has known too many details that turned out to be factual or otherwise proven since his claims, which were made at a time Area 51 was not well known outside very specific circles and when the Internet was in its infancy. I don't recall, but I remember high resolution satellite imagery was a tool reserved only for government and big dollar companies.

In my opinion Bob is telling the truth. I will go with the experienced polygraph examiner who, along with several other of his colleagues, evaluated Lazar and determined No Deception Indicated as the result. It is actually not 100% accurate to say a polygraph is inadmissible as evidence in a court of law. In fact, it is only generally inadmissible when an individual scores Deception Indicated on the test. Frequently, when subjects pass a polygraph exam, it is entered into evidence. When the individual is a subject in an investigation and voluntarily takes/subsequently passes a polygraph and especially more than one, the investigative inquiry into that person is going to die down quick if not outright end unless there is something concrete. So marginalizing his polygraph examinations is in my opinion another red herring
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posted on Sep, 18 2019 @ 07:13 PM
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Better view of suspected entrance. Again this matches Lazar's description, something he stated long before he had ready access to usable satellite imagery.





It is certainly an anomalous finding.

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posted on Sep, 18 2019 @ 10:22 PM
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a reply to: JBurns
It is obvious something is out there that is either alien or from the future and maybe both.
We are not alone and we have the proof now.



posted on Sep, 20 2019 @ 11:54 PM
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a reply to: CalibratedZeus




Full size

Thanks for posting this CS


I would retort with the following question: Why is it that both access roads from Groom lake converge on the hillside showing anomalies? This location is exactly where Lazar pointed out as being S4.
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