It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

Blasey Ford’s witness and best friend didn’t believe her; was threatened to change story

page: 2
49
<< 1    3 >>

log in

join
share:

posted on Sep, 16 2019 @ 03:59 PM
link   
a reply to: Grambler


What makes this a huge story is that the leadership of one of the major parties is demanding the end of the presumption of innocence, and that people be removed from public office over allegations with no proof...


I don't want to discount the implications here. What Justice Kavanaugh personally does or doesn't do is his personal business. But for we the people, unless and until a proper criminal investigation is conducted, this is just gossip and playing the people for dollars and votes.

We have much bigger fish to fry.

For example, in the grand scheme of things, it is far far more sinister that the leadership of one of the major parties was involved in withholding exculpatory evidence from defense attorneys in criminal cases, and that potentially innocent parties were tried, prosecuted and convicted in kangaroo courts.

I am far more concerned by the latter than the former.




posted on Sep, 16 2019 @ 04:06 PM
link   

originally posted by: DJMSN
a reply to: Boadicea

I am even more bothered that the book is written but their is no interview of the alleged victim as she has refused to discuss the allegations with anyone, going so far as allegedly telling close friends she has no recollection of the incident.

Its was implied in the NY Times article that she was inebriated and thus the reason for her recollection problems. How can two alleged authors some 30 years later make that determination without ever spoken to the main character in the story?


All excellent observations. And we only know that much third hand? Technically fourth- or maybe even fifth-hand, depending on how many middle men?

We're basically trying to figure out the whole by what this particular author tells us about what the two book authors wrote (but we can't see it for ourselves unless we buy the book), according to what someone told the book authors that the original victim told them. Purple-monkey-dishwasher anyone???

All purportedly for the purposes of impeaching Kavanaugh?

Perhaps this is a pre-emptive distraction for something else -- much bigger -- about to break?



posted on Sep, 16 2019 @ 04:13 PM
link   
a reply to: Boadicea

Both stories are big in their own way, but are connected

Both involve the establishment being unethical to gain power

I think if you know anything about me I have been quite clear that the Russian coup investigation is the biggest political scandal in the history of the country

I say that all the time and focus on it with most of my posts

That doesn’t mean there can’t be other huge stories

If we out the deep state who committed crimes against trump under Obama, but we allow the democrats to change tactics and use the media, entertainment industry, academia, and Silicon Valley to maintain power by merely ruing lives over any accusation

Nothing will change for the better in this country

The deep state will go from illegal surveillance of trump to manufacturing allegations against him and others they dislike

That’s why it’s hugely important to discuss both situations

I feel a real media could certainly find time to cover both; instead they overwhelmingly don’t cover either



posted on Sep, 16 2019 @ 04:59 PM
link   
a reply to: Grambler


The deep state will go from illegal surveillance of trump to manufacturing allegations against him and others they dislike

That’s why it’s hugely important to discuss both situations

I feel a real media could certainly find time to cover both; instead they overwhelmingly don’t cover either


Yes, the lack of quality reporting is a big problem. But isn't that by design? What else can we expect when truth is criminal and lies are legal? Classified documents, confidential documents, sealed documents, whistleblower laws, gag orders, nondisclosure clauses and non-disparagement clauses, secret courts with secret orders... Can't tell the truth. No. No. No.

But government can plant whatever propaganda they choose -- half-truths, mis-truths, un-truths -- it's all fair game. Anonymous "federal officials" can make whatever claims they choose with virtual impunity and media will run with it.

And those reporters who dare report outside the box are subject to surveillance, threats, prosecution and persecution. Attkisson, Rosen, Risen... they know what happens when reporters deviate from the government approved script. Likewise for government whistleblowers.

Give us the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, and we'll figure it out. We'll figure it ALL out. That's why we don't get it. And both sides like it that way, want it that way and play it that way.



posted on Sep, 16 2019 @ 05:01 PM
link   
a reply to: Grambler

I'm really not trying to argue with you... I'm sorry I'm being difficult. If it's any consolation, I'm "arguing" with myself too. These are just all the thoughts I'm having as I'm reading about this and thinking about it.



posted on Sep, 16 2019 @ 05:03 PM
link   

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: Grambler

I'm really not trying to argue with you... I'm sorry I'm being difficult. If it's any consolation, I'm "arguing" with myself too. These are just all the thoughts I'm having as I'm reading about this and thinking about it.


I don’t mind arguments and I didn’t think we were arguing anyways

Threads would be boring if we all just agreed with everything



posted on Sep, 16 2019 @ 05:05 PM
link   
a reply to: Grambler


I don’t mind arguments and I didn’t think we were arguing anyways Threads would be boring if we all just agreed with everything


And this ^^^ is why you are an ATS gem and why I always appreciate your posts! Thanks for being awesome.




posted on Sep, 16 2019 @ 05:20 PM
link   

originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: Grambler



How anyone could still support democrats is beyond me. I've never seen this much corruption in real life, I'd only ever seen it in Hollywood movies.


To add along to your train of thought. I have a question for the members of the Democrat Party on this site. We’ve been witnessing some of the most deceitful and corrupt practices of a political party in the history of this country. The outright blatant and manufactured lies and deception the dems have been employing to do one thing and one thing only, which is to gain full and complete power over all things government, ie; Legislative, Judicial and Executive branches.

Does this not scare the living hell out of you, does it not bother you?

As an American citizen it scares the chit out of me. It’s not the fact of them possibly achieving this but the manner and lengths in which they’re going to in order to obtain it.

I’m honestly very baffled as to how anyone could support a party that’s going about its business by lying, manipulating and deceiving the American people the way they are. They’re literally changing or trying to change laws as well as articles of the Constitution to oust one person from government, let me repeat that ONE PERSON. Who’s actually doing one the best jobs for this country we’ve ever seen. It’s absurd as it gets at least to me anyways

I know some of you think he’s a racist misogynistic nazi but to each his own I suppose. I don’t agree with you though. I find those labels a bit superfluous to say the least.

But once again, does this not bother the Democratic supporters of this board?



posted on Sep, 16 2019 @ 05:37 PM
link   
I read all of the posts, but in the midst of hellish seasonal allergies and asthma attack, so forgive if I overlooked anyone mentioning the interesting fact that Leland Keyser was once married to Bob Beckel...well-known Democrat talking head. It is really saying something that she couldn’t bring herself to support Blasey-Ford’s lies.



posted on Sep, 16 2019 @ 06:07 PM
link   
Ford's "friends" sound more like a bunch of handlers group texting. Say, you don't suppose the DNC sends people out to "handle" potential victims coming forward, sorta like how an official DNC lawyer represented Seth Rich's family, do you?

This is the real "Metoo" movement.



posted on Sep, 16 2019 @ 09:44 PM
link   
Where are all of the women supporters on ats who were concerned kavanaugh was guilty and said believe all women?

Apparently they don’t care a woman was threatened to try to make her lie to take down a man for sexual assault

I have not seen one person, whether it be a dem politician a media member or even person on ats that pushed the kavanaugh accusations comment in this woman being threatened to try to make her change her story

remember this in the future

These moral crusaders that claim to support all women are frauds, they don’t care if a woman is attacked and her life ruined for not lying

All they care about is power; and they have have shame and will use false allegations of sexual assault to gain it while pretending to care about assault victims

As soon as women or victims can’t help them political, they are discarded without a second thought



posted on Sep, 16 2019 @ 09:51 PM
link   
a reply to: Grambler

The emails are not getting through apparently 😃



posted on Sep, 17 2019 @ 05:32 AM
link   
a reply to: Grambler

The broken down old Ford with the noisy muffler needs to be in the junkyard



posted on Sep, 17 2019 @ 08:22 AM
link   
a reply to: Grambler




All they care about is power; and they have have shame and will use false allegations


It's because at least 50% fold under that level of pressure, but the Trump era is stopping that if he takes your side.
A million attacks later, Trump is now a pro in advising people how to deal with it, and hang in there.
edit on 17-9-2019 by Blue_Jay33 because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 17 2019 @ 10:04 AM
link   

originally posted by: dfnj2015

originally posted by: Grambler

It’s iust a guy saying he saw kavanaughs junk with no one else, even the alleged victim confirming it



So then you will agree some effing guy making stuff up doesn't mean the Democrat leadership is behind it!


No they just took it and ran with it. There's been a lot of "Ready, Fire, Aim" from the Democrat leadership and it has been blowing up in their faces.



posted on Sep, 17 2019 @ 04:42 PM
link   
a reply to: Grambler

How about this


The attorney who represented Christine Blasey Ford during Brett Kavanaugh's Supreme Court contentious confirmation hearings said in a speech earlier this year that Ford was motivated to come forward in part by a desire to tag Kavanaugh's reputation with an "asterisk" before he could start ruling on abortion-related cases.The high-powered progressive lawyer, Debra Katz, made the remarks at the University of Baltimore’s 11th Feminist Legal Theory Conference, entitled "Applied Feminism and #MeToo." Her comments were first quoted in the book "Search and Destroy: Inside the Campaign Against Brett Kavanaugh" by Ryan Lovelace, which Fox News has obtained.



“In the aftermath of these hearings, I believe that Christine’s testimony brought about more good than the harm misogynist Republicans caused by allowing Kavanaugh on the court,” Katz said in the video. “He will always have an asterisk next to his name. When he takes a scalpel to Roe v. Wade, we will know who he is, we know his character, and we know what motivates him, and that is important.



So it was purely political all along and they knew they had no chance to stop him, but rather smear him for all time.
Now every time he votes against lefty policies, they will bring it up...pathetic.



posted on Sep, 17 2019 @ 04:45 PM
link   
a reply to: Blue_Jay33


Exactly.

remember those threads on ats about Kvanaugh and fords accusation?

Where are all those that were calling Kavanaugh a rapist?

Now we know fords own best friend and witness doesn't believe her claims, AND fords other friends threatened her to try to get her to lie.

Yet all of the sudden all of the people on ats that were certain Fords story was true are no where to be found.


But trust those people; they really are better than you and they care about sexual assault victims more than you.



posted on Sep, 17 2019 @ 04:54 PM
link   

originally posted by: dfnj2015

originally posted by: Grambler

It’s iust a guy saying he saw kavanaughs junk with no one else, even the alleged victim confirming it



So then you will agree some effing guy making stuff up doesn't mean the Democrat leadership is behind it!


Actually the Lawfare group, and their left leaning activists were completely behind it. The inconsistencies were also there to see... so maybe Dems didn't "pull the trigger"... but I sure have no recollection on their part of them reminding the general public, about the principle of "presumed innocence".

In other words... yeah... the Democrats were very much behind the whole thing. End of story.

The ENTIRE fiasco, was the very essence of congruency with the axiom "You are entitled to your own opinions, but you are not entitled to your own facts."
edit on 17-9-2019 by dasman888 because: Edit



posted on Sep, 17 2019 @ 04:55 PM
link   

originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
a reply to: Grambler

How about this


The attorney who represented Christine Blasey Ford during Brett Kavanaugh's Supreme Court contentious confirmation hearings said in a speech earlier this year that Ford was motivated to come forward in part by a desire to tag Kavanaugh's reputation with an "asterisk" before he could start ruling on abortion-related cases.The high-powered progressive lawyer, Debra Katz, made the remarks at the University of Baltimore’s 11th Feminist Legal Theory Conference, entitled "Applied Feminism and #MeToo." Her comments were first quoted in the book "Search and Destroy: Inside the Campaign Against Brett Kavanaugh" by Ryan Lovelace, which Fox News has obtained.



“In the aftermath of these hearings, I believe that Christine’s testimony brought about more good than the harm misogynist Republicans caused by allowing Kavanaugh on the court,” Katz said in the video. “He will always have an asterisk next to his name. When he takes a scalpel to Roe v. Wade, we will know who he is, we know his character, and we know what motivates him, and that is important.



So it was purely political all along and they knew they had no chance to stop him, but rather smear him for all time.
Now every time he votes against lefty policies, they will bring it up...pathetic.


Democrats love an "insurance policy"



posted on Sep, 17 2019 @ 08:56 PM
link   
a reply to: Grambler

I reported this as it was happening, meanwhile demonrats and their left-wing demonrat/socialist media and drones kept claiming "WE HAVE TO BELIEVE HER..." It didn't matter that she couldn't keep her claims up as we learned that Ford didn't really feel "scared to fly in planes because of the FAKE rape accusation..." We also learned that Ford had even trained on how to beat a polygraph test the friend of hers whom was about to join the FBI, meanwhile she claimed that "she had never taken a polygraph" and the left kept claiming" SEE? SHE DIDN'T LIE..."

Ford and most of her friends are nothing more than political hacks whom LIED to try to stop Kavanaugh from joining the SCOTUS... They should all serve time in jail for defamation of character, fraud and perjury...

I see now, so the news is that the NYT actually left out the statement of Ford's friend whom said she didn't believe Ford. They left out exculpatory evidence to simply ruin the life of a man whom was INNOCENT ALL ALONG...

This seems to be the mondus operatum of the left for at least the past 3 years now... Use lies to try to ruin people and get the demoncrat/socialist candidates the win...



edit on 17-9-2019 by ElectricUniverse because: add and correct comment.




top topics



 
49
<< 1    3 >>

log in

join