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The Faster Than Light Issue

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posted on Sep, 15 2019 @ 08:33 AM
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No matter how romantic you are space travelling doesn't make sense with our current technology. Communication with Mars is delayed by 3-22 minutes, that's just for information at the speed of light and in our own backyard.
To meet other beings on other habitable planets we would have to go many many lightyears.
Currently the theoretical traveltime for 1 lightyear is a little less than 20.000 years.

The only plausible solution is to not travel at all but instead manipulate spacetime.
Human scientists came up with the idea of wormholes and (this is hilarious) it would take the energy our sun creates in 100 million years to produce one the size of a grapefruit.
This is exemplary of scientific stupidity, all the research done (CERN etc.) is basically just "you don't understand it - shoot it with as much force as you can muster". That's not research, or at least not very elegant.

So the key is to understand what spacetime is. There's already a formula circulating

The GOD equation, you can read more about it here.
The only problem I'm having with it is that behind it is the assumption everything is a particle, even if they call it "entity" it's still the wrong approach. Understandable sure, physics has problems imagining the non-physical.

My suggestion would be that someone starts to put together the GOD equation, with CMBR + Higg's Field - the particle fixation
The other thing is manipulation can be gentle,
pick the string to make it swing
That would take a lot less energy than shooting a hole in it.

And once you've cracked how to play the spacetime strings nothing is impossible, besides I'm sure it includes an eye-opener to what the 95% of the universe really are.
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posted on Sep, 15 2019 @ 08:56 AM
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No matter how romantic you are space travelling doesn't make sense with our current technology. Communication with Mars is delayed by 3-22 minutes, that's just for information at the speed of light and in our own backyard.

Speed of light is only an issue for direct communication. It is not an issue for interstellar or even intergalactic travel.

In a relativistic rocket at a constant 1g acceleration it would take you only 28 years to travel to Andromeda Galaxy, 2 million light years away.


originally posted by: Peeple
The GOD equation, you can read more about it here.

Nonsense



posted on Sep, 15 2019 @ 09:01 AM
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a reply to: Peeple

Maybe God created the universe as large as it is, so there could be no interaction between alien species.

Who knows.



posted on Sep, 15 2019 @ 09:05 AM
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a reply to: Peeple

Forget FTL drives, "Blink Drives" are more practical. I imagine any civilization a million years more technologically advanced that us would have them.

Blink Drives better than FTL

We just discovered water on a planet in another solar system. Any technological advance civilization would be jumping to such systems just for the fun of it and to see how creative the Universe can be.



posted on Sep, 15 2019 @ 09:07 AM
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a reply to: moebius

Why focus science and engineering on only our current understanding of reality.

Im sure in 100 years people will be saying, "can you believe they wanted to send people in rocketships to travel to other galaxies".



posted on Sep, 15 2019 @ 09:19 AM
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Your source is a moonbat.
You can read here several FAR more realistic approaches to the problem of what spacetime is "made of."

Assuming one can understand the points made.

Harte



posted on Sep, 15 2019 @ 09:28 AM
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Maybe God created the universe as large as it is, so there could be no interaction between alien species.



That's the first time I've heard (read) that and it's something to think about.



posted on Sep, 15 2019 @ 10:31 AM
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posted on Sep, 15 2019 @ 10:39 AM
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posted on Sep, 15 2019 @ 10:48 AM
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a reply to: Peeple

It is all quite simple..if you'd ask me. The speed of light is the fastest speed we can measure and have built absolutes around them. Which is of course obstructing your own progress in science. With this discovery of entenglement there is an confirmation of what is possible in nature. Maybe it has nothing to do with speed or time...but with something we are still to understand. We have been practising science for some ...lets say 3500 years.. and now have the arrogance to think we know it all, especially the most valueable equation of physics? Don't think so...it will take us sometime to figure it all out..if we will have to do it all by ourselves. Thats another point which is seldomly discussed when talking about ET having contact with governments of our planet. If so..why are we still learning this old stuff in school. But thats for an other thread..


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posted on Sep, 15 2019 @ 10:56 AM
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posted on Sep, 15 2019 @ 10:57 AM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: Peeple

Forget FTL drives, "Blink Drives" are more practical. I imagine any civilization a million years more technologically advanced that us would have them.

Blink Drives better than FTL

We just discovered water on a planet in another solar system. Any technological advance civilization would be jumping to such systems just for the fun of it and to see how creative the Universe can be.


Your point is exactly why I believe the “why would they stop by here” argument is silly.

If we could go there - we would.

If they have the ability to get here, they probably would.

It’s just curiosity - perhaps mixed in with other agendas.



posted on Sep, 15 2019 @ 11:13 AM
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posted on Sep, 15 2019 @ 11:45 AM
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my NDEs peculiarly sounded and looked a lot like travelling thru 'wormholes'

astral projection travellers detail accounts of interstellar, galactic, and even dimensional transposition

no doubt reincarnation allows also a physical relocation light years away.

our bodies may be anchored in a particular spot,

but where are we really?



posted on Sep, 15 2019 @ 12:21 PM
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I subscribe to The Optimum Theory.

E=c^3 for absolute energy value available across space time.

All of what exists within space time, as matter, is contained within that cubed C value.

When you extract down to the "m" you are deconstructing part of the cubed C, for the mass value.

There is a conversion between light and matter, that really needs to be understood, to nail this down.



posted on Sep, 15 2019 @ 12:29 PM
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What happens if you have a ship that can travel at the speed of light and someone from the back of the spaceship walks to the front.. they would now be exceeding the speed of light . So what would happen to them.? because if it's impossible to exceed the speed of light would you be stopped from walking from the back of the spacecraft to the front whilst travelling at the speed of light ?



posted on Sep, 15 2019 @ 12:39 PM
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The speed of light is a limitation when traveling through spacetime only. Imagine spacetime as an ocean of fluid (spacetime fluid). As you travel in your spacetime "boat" through the water (either on top or subsurface) you create a wake in front of you compressing the fluid in front of you and forcing yourself through it making a wake in your trail.

With spacetime, the speed of light is like the fastest you can travel in this medium since you cannot compress the spacetime fluid ahead of you fast enough. You would need an infinite amount of power to travel faster than that...which is impracticable, if not impossible.

However, this is a 2D model (for the purposes of this discussion) and does not take into account traveling above the surface, through a thinner fluid medium (the air in this example), which means you can travel faster than through the spacetime fluid.

We would need to discover a thinner medium (or change the viscosity of our spacetime medium) to go faster than light can travel through that spacetime medium. This is an area that I think dark energy can be an asset to "thin out" the spacetime medium ahead of a ship to allow it to travel faster than the spacetime around it.



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posted on Sep, 15 2019 @ 06:30 PM
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originally posted by: moebius

No matter how romantic you are space travelling doesn't make sense with our current technology. Communication with Mars is delayed by 3-22 minutes, that's just for information at the speed of light and in our own backyard.

Speed of light is only an issue for direct communication. It is not an issue for interstellar or even intergalactic travel.

In a relativistic rocket at a constant 1g acceleration it would take you only 28 years to travel to Andromeda Galaxy, 2 million light years away.


originally posted by: Peeple
The GOD equation, you can read more about it here.

Nonsense



Your hypothetical 1g acceleration for 28 years is what is nonsense in physical terms. If you meant to say something different, please do.



posted on Sep, 15 2019 @ 07:27 PM
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originally posted by: tarifa37
What happens if you have a ship that can travel at the speed of light and someone from the back of the spaceship walks to the front.. they would now be exceeding the speed of light . So what would happen to them.? because if it's impossible to exceed the speed of light would you be stopped from walking from the back of the spacecraft to the front whilst travelling at the speed of light ?


Umm no. You are still going the same speed because you are inside the ship.




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