Odium: (And everyone else who believes the Germans had an A-Bomb)
BTW, yes, I am aware of the length of my post but please read as I took the time to compile this information and it PROVES that Germany could not
have constructed an Atomic Bomb:
I respect all of your opinions, but you are jumping way too far ahead without any REAL proof. OK, I agree with some statements, Yes, the Telemark
Research Base (widely known since Allied Operations decimated the place) did exist, Yes, they did have Heavy Water and Atomic Piles and yes they did
have the knowledge to build such a weapon, but it was of course another problem of too little, too late,
for the Germans yet again. By the time
all the materials could have even been READY for production of an Atomic Bomb, which I seriously doubt as there is overwhelming evidence that alot of
it was destroyed or stalled or not well funded or even considered, it would have been far too late to start building an Atomic Bomb, and even if they
DID have anything close to an Atomic Bomb, it probably would have been in its very early stages and a very low-yield device and was most likey
Also, the fact that Karlsch claims they tested a Nuclear Device on Ruegen in 1944/45 is load of crap too. By then the Allies had liberated Norway well
and truely from Nazi control and Poland was already liberated by the Russians, plus at this stage of the war, the Allies were pretty much counting the
days 'till the war was over and the Third Reich's collapse was inevitable (this was evident even as far back as 1943, when Hitler and Goebbels
introduced their "Total War"
plan). Almost all of Germany's workforce and resources would have been concentrated on helping the war effort,
and in fact, many operations despite being military, were simply cancelled around 1943/44 when the "Total War" plan was declared, because (to the
best of my memory) Hitler ordered MOST military projects that could not show significant results to help the war effort in least 6 months from
mid-1943 to be stopped. Also, all German infrastructure was literally crumbling, the lack of resources, lack of scientists/physicists, and lack of
secure locations to carry out Nuclear Weapons research meant the Germans made very little progress in this field.
I agree that the Germans did know about the idea of the Atomic Bomb, (of course they had to since Otto Hahn and Fritz Strassman demonstrated
fission in December 1938 and proposed this could be used for a bomb
), but the fact is that the High-Ranking Military Officials especially Hitler
himself, wouldn't advocate such a program because firstly, it would take long to develop, it would be very costly, and it couldn't show results very
quickly, besides most of the Secret Weapons funding went to the Luftwaffe, because Hermann Goering (Head of Luftwaffe) was on good terms with Hitler,
and Hitler had a personal love for aircraft and their potential as weapons. Also, there is alot of evidence to suggest that Werner Heisenberg
intentionally slowed down progress in making Atomic weapons because he understood the capabilities of such a weapon and didn't particularly like the
Nazi Regime. The Germans focused more on producing energy by using fission and tried many experiments to see how viable this would, and also thought
of using fission in medical sciences and such.
Finally, yes they did have an OFFICIAL
nuclear research program around 1942 and onwards, which was started by Albert Speer (Nazi Munitions
and had the approval of Hitler to go ahead. However it made jack-all progress and faced several delays and strokes of bad luck. As I
mentioned before Werner Heisenburg (leading German physicist)
did believe that an Atomic Bomb could be produced but deliberately slowed an
research down as he did not want the Nazi's to possess such a weapon, and when he was asked by Speer how long it would take to produce a weapon,
Hesienburg told him that a bomb could be produced by 1945, and although he didn't advocate it, around 1942 it was seen as feasible, and it was given
the go ahead.
Around late 1942 (even by this time Germany was in no state to produce Atomic Bombs, America entered the war, there-by sealing Germany's fate, war is
tough on any country), Speer set up a single research team with the task of creating a Nuclear Reactor. He assembled a team of scientists and
physicists who requested a budget of 40,000 Reichmarks (less than the cost of one Panzer IV tank, 1/5 of the cost of the Manhattan Project, no
where NEAR enough to produce an A-Bomb)
and this more than anything guaranteed the project would fail. From then on the program focused mainly on
producing a reactor suitable for power-production rather than for weapons production. Two Atomic Piles were eventually built, one near Hechingen and
the other near Erfurt both using deutrium as the moderator (heavy water). No working reactor was ever built, and neither Atomic Pile built enough
fissionable material as a by-product to even consider using it in an Atomic Bomb. By the time the potential and all the neccessary scientific work
about the A-Bomb realised, it was FAR TOO LATE. By 1944, the German industry was in chaos, the project recieved no more funding, and barely any
uranium supplies were viable, the Germans only had two small areas to mine uranium ore from, in the North of Belgium and another area in Bohemia (by
1944 Germany could no longer support any mining operations) and thanks to successful RAF and USAAF raids on the Telemark Research Base, NOTHING TO
DO WITH ATOMIC BOMBS OR NUCLEAR RESEARCH COULD CONTINUE
, Germany simply lacked the MEANS, the RESOURCES, the MANPOWER and the SECURITY AND
INFRASTRUCTURE. The only other project that was related to Atomic Weapons research was a 1943 study by the Scientific Institute of Dahlem in Germany
about the effects of radiation on humans and how radioactive material could be used in war (equivalant of modern dirty bombs basically), however the
project was cancelled on Hitler's direct orders in 1944. Also to add the sheer failure of the German Atomic Research program, the two Atomic Piles
were both researching of different methods of how a reactor should work and the whole project was delayed by Heisenburg himself, as he did not want an
Atomic Bomb to be built.
So there! There is no way in hell Germany could have built anything close to an Atomic Bomb, let alone enough fissionable material or even a FREAKIN'
REACTOR! Personally, the theory that Germany tested a bomb on Ruegen too is complete and utter s***, as I seriously doubt they could have devoted so
much time and effort into producing a bomb so quickly after it was realised that fission could be used to make an Atomic Bomb in 1939! BTW, where does
this great historian Karlsch get the knowledge or information about a Nazi Atomic Bomb test in WW2, even if it did happen, it would have had to have
been ONE OF THE MOST secret operations of the war, and by 1944/45 the Allies would have surely found out, and I'm sure there had to have been some
sort of records or evidence of the bomb elsewhere before it was tested on Ruegen. Besides, Hitler and the Nazi's weren't in any state to be
conducting Atomic R&D and testing in 1944, if he had the bomb, he would have used it, no matter on who or what an impact it would make, he WOULD HAVE
USED IT, no questions. Hell, many secrect weapons programs were sped up just to please Hitler's 1943 "Total War" plan, the King Tiger Tank (Tiger
II) and the V1 rocket are examples. The Nazi's wouldn't have had the time or resources to gamble on such a project like the Atomic Bomb without even
understanding how such a thing would work, if they had anything that made an impact to the war in any way they used it, if any secret weapons program
was near completetion they used it, it was just a matter of TOO LITTLE, TOO LATE!
By the time Germany had all these terrific weapons and had
the means the employ them (alot were without any success), it was already too late, by that time some Russia Partisian was already hoisting a Soviet
flag on the Reichstag and Hitler already had the gun to his head. Even if they had Atomic bomb ready by 1945, they had no real chance to use it by air
or sea, they could have only detonated it on land somewhere in Germany, which would have done more harm than good for them.
Hopefully now you all understand how Germany couldn't have had an Atomic Bomb!
P.S. Chemical and Biological weapons are a different story, to Germany it was case of been there, done that, however stick to the topic!