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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: JAGStorm
I can't believe you actually authored this thread, I had no idea you were an advocate for eugenics....yowsers
originally posted by: FyreByrd
originally posted by: JAGStorm
Today on a facebook page a local lady that helps people in need posted a bunch of needs/wants for some families.
Two of the three families are expecting a baby in addition to many other children. They have zero money, zero anything.
How on earth is this ok? In this day and age, birth control is everywhere, and it's free. I'd like to say it's rare, but it isn't.
Every day there are requests like this. Another friend asking for fresh fruits for people. Many working folks can't afford fresh fruit for their
I'm not some kind of cruel person. I know the desire for a women to have a child. I just don't think that their desire overrides
the responsibility of having one. Then that burden falls on everyone else. It falls on people that have been responsible their entire lives.
You ask how on earth is it okay? IT ISN"T.
My question to you - why are you opposed to Caring for others? I don't think these people you distain intended to be in this situation as you seem to imply.
....you say birth control is everywhere. That you wished it wasn't (REALLY) but it is.
I suppose you are anti-choice as well.
Who are you to decide who can and cannot have children? Who are you to decide who is worthy of charity?
Look to your own life before looking down on another's (paraphased from bible)
originally posted by: Vroomfondel
I have thought about this issue before. Should prospective parents have to meet specific minimum standards in order to have children?
You have to pass a test and prove financial responsibility (insurance) to drive a car. If you fail to provide the minimum required insurance or prove to be inadequate as a driver you can be fined or lose the privilege altogether.
Anyone capable of having children can do so with no demonstration of the ability or desire to care for them properly. Yet you can have your children taken away from you if you fail to provide basic necessities or for them.
Why are we proactive on driving a car but reactive on protecting children? Why do we wait until after the children are suffering before we act?
If we treated having children and driving a car the same, we would wait until after a driver had an accident to make sure they had insurance. That doesn't make sense, does it? Of course not. So why do we do it with children?
originally posted by: starviego
Passing on one's genes to another generation is a biological imperative. God/MotherNature doesn't care if you do it by being superior or if you do it by scamming your way through. Success is what counts.
On the other hand, you don't have any special obligation to help another being pass his/her genes on.
originally posted by: surfer_soul
a reply to: SeaWorthy
Right so only the wealthy care for their kids then? Being poor means you don’t have the ability to care for and bring up your child/children healthy and happy?
Tell that to 99% of the worlds population.
I ask everyone, at what point does it not become OK?
originally posted by: sine.nomine
Some of the most brilliant, talented, innovative, and driven people to ever grace this Earth were born poor. There is opportunity everywhere. Where there's a will there's a way.
To be quite honest, I don't mind sharing what little I have to help others out.
originally posted by: interupt42
a reply to: JAGStorm
Anyone can and should have the right to have a child as long as they don't ask others to pay.
If you can't pay for the child and you chose to take welfare then you should be on mandatory birth control.
Kind of like when I take a job and they make me take drug tests it's a choice
How happy can a hungry kid with no health, dental care not proper cloths be?
Telling a woman she cant have children is not only riding close to the ethics edge, but rather unconstitutional by US standards.
The same "Right" that I have to pound 20 beers at a bar and drive home.