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Own a rifle? Got a scope to go with it? The government might soon know who you are, where you live and how to reach you.
That’s because Apple and Google have been ordered by the U.S. government to hand over names, phone numbers and other identifying data of at least 10,000 users of a single gun scope app, Forbes has discovered. It’s an unprecedented move: Never before has a case been disclosed in which American investigators demanded personal data of users of a single app from Apple and Google. And never has an order been made public where the feds have asked the Silicon Valley giants for info on so many thousands of people in one go.
Apple and Google have been told to hand over not just the names of anyone who downloaded the scope app from August 1, 2017 to the current date, but their telephone numbers and IP addresses too, which could be used to determine the location of the user. The government also wants to know when users were operating the app.www.forbes.com... #61fa6c4d6135
originally posted by: crappiekat
I'm on a break, so don't have time to research.
Is this another China thing?
Where are they coming from? We know the Fentanal has been coming from China.
Thank you yes, That was where I was going.
originally posted by: RalagaNarHallas
a reply to: FredT
if i had to guess id assume the member was actually asking about if the scopes were some how ending up in china in violation of the export ban that exists on most night vision and thermal scopes due to fears that less advanced nations will use them to advance their own tech? i know next to nothing on the level of Chinese thermal/night vision but i would assume the tech south of the border is lacking compared to ours at least so that is where id assume they are worried they are ending up
so the company responded and seem to want to keep the data private while attempting to stay in compliance with us law
Following initial reporting on the government demand from Apple and Google of user data for the Obsidian 4 app, ATN stated on Friday that they were not aware of the government’s request for information from the tech giants until a Forbes article broke the story. ATN advised they would not be turning over user information to the DOJ unless required by law. “ATN has not been contacted by the Department of Justice, Apple, or Google,” the company said in a statement to American Military News on Friday. “ATN will protect its customers and their identifying data to the absolute extent possible under U.S. law. And, it will not provide any information regarding the identity of our customers to any third party unless specifically required by law,” the statement continued. The turnover of data could affect up to 10,000 app users who have downloaded the app through the Apple Store and Google Play.
so scopes ended up in Hong Kong Canada and Netherlands and apparently also into the hands of the Taliban , i would assume that its not the streaming capability they are worried about
Before the court documents were sealed, Forbes reported that part of the court order alleges the company’s scopes have been found in shipments to Hong Kong, Canada and The Netherlands but have not had the necessary import licenses required by the International Traffic in Arms Regulation. A report published by the Terrorism Research & Analysis Consortium also claims the scopes in question had made it into the hands of Taliban fighters.