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Assault weapons are the devil!

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posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 10:27 AM
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originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: InTheLight


I think you have to earn those rights

A right does not have to be earned. It exists.

TheRedneck


It should not exist for every citizen because every citizen is not capable or worthy of that right.


I see ... so not every citizen is capable or worthy of the right to marry? How about the right to vote? What about the right to speak or redress the government for grievance? What about the right to be free of unreasonable search and seizure?

Cool ...


Violent and/or angry people with guns kill people...that's what we are talking about.




posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 10:28 AM
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a reply to: InTheLight

Need a map?

Alabama is not in Australia.

TheRedneck



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 10:28 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: InTheLight


I though there might have been a Slide Fire add on.

There's that word again... "might." Banning magazines "might" reduce shootings. That mean-looking gun "might" be more dangerous. People "might" go on a shooting spree.

I don't want to hear about your "mights" until you can acknowledge my "rights."

TheRedneck


I think you have to earn those rights and that would be through a mental health background check and references as step two.


A person earns privileges.

Rights are not the property of the state to give out at their discretion. You are desiring a police-state and a total lack of freedoms and rights.


Only to the violent and mentally ill, which is already in place...do you want their right to bear arms given back to them?



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 10:29 AM
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originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: InTheLight

Need a map?

Alabama is not in Australia.

TheRedneck


Look to Australia for guidance regarding stemming mass shootings, if you care.



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 10:30 AM
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a reply to: InTheLight


Violent and/or angry people with guns kill people...that's what we are talking about.

Violent and angry people kill people. Did you miss this or just ignore it?


originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: InTheLight


Ah, those who will not see...

Then see.


No guns used.


No guns used.


TheRedneck



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 10:31 AM
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a reply to: InTheLight


Look to Australia for guidance regarding stemming mass shootings, if you care.

I don't care.

TheRedneck



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 10:31 AM
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originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: InTheLight


Violent and/or angry people with guns kill people...that's what we are talking about.

Violent and angry people kill people. Did you miss this or just ignore it?


originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: InTheLight


Ah, those who will not see...

Then see.


No guns used.


No guns used.


TheRedneck


You are deflecting, I am specifically talking about mass shooters and shootings.



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 10:32 AM
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originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: InTheLight


I though there might have been a Slide Fire add on.

There's that word again... "might." Banning magazines "might" reduce shootings. That mean-looking gun "might" be more dangerous. People "might" go on a shooting spree.

I don't want to hear about your "mights" until you can acknowledge my "rights."

TheRedneck


I think you have to earn those rights and that would be through a mental health background check and references as step two.


A person earns privileges.

Rights are not the property of the state to give out at their discretion. You are desiring a police-state and a total lack of freedoms and rights.


Only to the violent and mentally ill, which is already in place...do you want their right to bear arms given back to them?


Who determines mental illness, and what kind of illness?

Violent or potentially violent?

lolz

You went from "compromise" to denial of rights really fast!



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 10:32 AM
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originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: InTheLight


Look to Australia for guidance regarding stemming mass shootings, if you care.

I don't care.



TheRedneck


Thank goodness it's not up to you to make those important decisions.



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 10:33 AM
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a reply to: InTheLight

No, you are talking about killing people. Those were your words. Guns are not a requirement.

TheRedneck



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 10:33 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: InTheLight


I though there might have been a Slide Fire add on.

There's that word again... "might." Banning magazines "might" reduce shootings. That mean-looking gun "might" be more dangerous. People "might" go on a shooting spree.

I don't want to hear about your "mights" until you can acknowledge my "rights."

TheRedneck


I think you have to earn those rights and that would be through a mental health background check and references as step two.


A person earns privileges.

Rights are not the property of the state to give out at their discretion. You are desiring a police-state and a total lack of freedoms and rights.


Only to the violent and mentally ill, which is already in place...do you want their right to bear arms given back to them?


Who determines mental illness, and what kind of illness?

Violent or potentially violent?

lolz

You went from "compromise" to denial of rights really fast!


Compromise for number of rounds, denial of rights to own guns to violent and mentally ill...try to keep up.



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 10:34 AM
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originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: InTheLight

No, you are talking about killing people. Those were your words. Guns are not a requirement.

TheRedneck


You are twisting...reread my original comment.



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 10:34 AM
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originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: InTheLight

Yes, have mandatory mental health reports, references from family and friends, a good reason to own a gun, gun training, and 10 round maximum.


So you are no better than the person standing in from of a voting booth demanding a justification from someone before they can vote.





You mean like Trump was doing regarding the popular vote debacle?


Strawman argument and a backtracking from you.

Not even worthy of a response, to be honest.


You mean you have no response, to be honest. Same exact scenario in reverse.


No.

Now you're making things up because you have stated that people need to "justify" exercising their rights.

Which is the antithesis of "rights".


So it's okay with you that a potentially violent person can exercise their rights to obtain a semiautomatic weapon just because they want it?


Yes.

because everyone is "potentially violent".

Is this your justification for gun confiscation?

Because everyone can be "potentially violent" at any given time.


Throughout this thread I never used the word confiscation, that is your word. My words are banning high capacity round magazines.


I know you haven't "stated" it, but that's because you still pretend to be for freedoms, but are looking for "justifications" and dressing things up as "compromise".


Who needs over 10 rounds for anything, answer me that?


SEE!

Once again, you are demanding a justification for a right.

The great thing about rights is that it needs no justification. Justification is just asking permission. Because if I couldn't supply the appropriate justification, I'd be denied permission.




If you can't supply a good reason, then you should be denied permission.


Does one need permission to go into a store , in the US , and purchase soap ?
Does one need permission to go into a pizza parlor , in the US , and buy pizza ?
Wine ?
All 3 can kill someone under specific conditions.
Allergies
Cholesterol
DUI

Why would I need permission as the right to bear arms is provided by the Constitution of the United States of America in the beloved Bill of Rights ?
I understand not all countries are provided any rights.
Not my fault
But , the US does not have to change to abide by the conditions of foreign rule.
Ever.
We fought a war to break out from under tyranny like that
The right to bear arms is the way to prevent that in the future.
The Founding Fathers were brilliant and had great forethought.



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 10:34 AM
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a reply to: InTheLight


Thank goodness it's not up to you to make those important decisions.

Actually, it is up to me, along with a couple hundred million other law-abiding, gun-toting Americans.

We call it a "democratic republic."

TheRedneck



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 10:35 AM
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a reply to: InTheLight


You are twisting...reread my original comment.

I quoted your original comment!

TheRedneck



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 10:36 AM
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originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: InTheLight

Yes, have mandatory mental health reports, references from family and friends, a good reason to own a gun, gun training, and 10 round maximum.


So you are no better than the person standing in from of a voting booth demanding a justification from someone before they can vote.





You mean like Trump was doing regarding the popular vote debacle?


Strawman argument and a backtracking from you.

Not even worthy of a response, to be honest.


You mean you have no response, to be honest. Same exact scenario in reverse.


No.

Now you're making things up because you have stated that people need to "justify" exercising their rights.

Which is the antithesis of "rights".


So it's okay with you that a potentially violent person can exercise their rights to obtain a semiautomatic weapon just because they want it?


Yes.

because everyone is "potentially violent".

Is this your justification for gun confiscation?

Because everyone can be "potentially violent" at any given time.


Throughout this thread I never used the word confiscation, that is your word. My words are banning high capacity round magazines.


I know you haven't "stated" it, but that's because you still pretend to be for freedoms, but are looking for "justifications" and dressing things up as "compromise".


Who needs over 10 rounds for anything, answer me that?


SEE!

Once again, you are demanding a justification for a right.

The great thing about rights is that it needs no justification. Justification is just asking permission. Because if I couldn't supply the appropriate justification, I'd be denied permission.




If you can't supply a good reason, then you should be denied permission.


Does one need permission to go into a store , in the US , and purchase soap ?
Does one need permission to go into a pizza parlor , in the US , and buy pizza ?
Wine ?
All 3 can kill someone under specific conditions.
Allergies
Cholesterol
DUI

Why would I need permission as the right to bear arms is provided by the Constitution of the United States of America in the beloved Bill of Rights ?
I understand not all countries are provided any rights.
Not my fault
But , the US does not have to change to abide by the conditions of foreign rule.
Ever.
We fought a war to break out from under tyranny like that
The right to bear arms is the way to prevent that in the future.
The Founding Fathers were brilliant and had great forethought.


Because now if you are a criminal or violent (domestic violence) your rights are denied, period. I think mental illness/violence and references need to be looked at because copycat mass shooters aren't going away.



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 10:36 AM
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originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: InTheLight


Thank goodness it's not up to you to make those important decisions.

Actually, it is up to me, along with a couple hundred million other law-abiding, gun-toting Americans.

We call it a "democratic republic."

TheRedneck


You are fooling yourself.



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 10:37 AM
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a reply to: InTheLight

Oh, let's explore this theory, so there are "copycats" out there who will only go on a mass shooting of they can get an AR15 legally and otherwise they won't go on a shooting spree at all? For them it is AR15 or nothing?

That's one of the stupidest claims a gun grabber has made yet and there are a whole lot of stupid claims being made!



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 10:37 AM
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originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: InTheLight


You are twisting...reread my original comment.

I quoted your original comment!

TheRedneck


Nope, you left out one important word...can you figure out what it was?



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 10:37 AM
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originally posted by: funbobby
a reply to: InTheLight

Oh, let's explore this theory, so there are "copycats" out there who will only go on a mass shooting of they can get an AR15 legally and otherwise they won't go on a shooting spree at all? For them it is AR15 or nothing?

That's one of the stupidest claims a gun grabber has made yet and there are a whole lot of stupid claims being made!


I never used the word 'legally', try again and copycat means just that, copy.
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