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posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 12:32 PM
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originally posted by: missed_gear
a reply to: InTheLight


Your lack of objectivity and don't care attitude is not representative of the majority of what Americans want in this issue.


Stats?

You don't know a majority of Americans, period....especially on paper.

mg



Here is another poll that says the same thing.

www.reuters.com... SKCN1PX11I




posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 12:33 PM
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originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: InTheLight
you, a foreigner, telling us what we want is hilarious!
you should stick with the poutine and back bacon perhaps it will make you less cranky





I am suggesting you look at successful solutions other countries put into place, is all. And discussing this issue seems to get your back up, maybe you should load up your gun shoot it into the air and where it falls you will know not where.


Have you ever been here in the US?

Have you ever took a wrong exit and end up on State street in East St Louis? How about Compton in California, maybe even remotely strolled down the wrong street in Chicago?

You cannot even fathom how life is here unless you live here everyday.

Your country is nothing like here.

Population or people.

No compatison



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 12:34 PM
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originally posted by: IrateCanadian

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: IrateCanadian

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: IrateCanadian

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: IrateCanadian

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: InTheLight

If the solution is a loss of freedom then nope


That freedom does not mean today what it meant when it was written. Now every civilian will be armed against each other, is that how you want to live?



Yes. You endorse removing rights and freedoms.

Admit it.


I endorse removing high capacity magazines (over 10 rounds) that would be a very good start...and only a start.


So you desire a loss of freedoms at least be honest about it


How is reducing your round number a loss of freedom. In what instances do you need mega rounds?


Let me put this in a way you might understand.

You and the rest of the anti-gun crowd are demanding a justification for firearms.


This is just like you standing at a voting booth and demanding a justification before you vote for why you want to vote for a candidate.

It is a police-state, Orwellian action.

It is wrong.


As in Australia, it is right, and they haven't had another mass shooting in 22 years. So obviously your priorities are clear.


Move to Australia then and shut the hell up about magazine caps in USA/NA - Good god.


Just trying to save you from yourselves.



I have my guns and training for that - I'm good, thanks


Other people may not be, is that okay with you?


Just means I have a better chance against those that do not, in which I have to oppose for my own defensive rights. Otherwise, not my problem. If a criminal wants to get a gun with a high cap magazine, then regardless of law - He will. It's not difficult. I'd rather have a high cap mag available when going up against a criminal with a high cap mag.

Why should I give up my right to have a high cap mag when some loser who has no other agenda other than performing an evil act is able to get one regardless of law?

Sounds stupid now doesn't it?

The police/law enforcement is useless. Untrustworthy and unneeded. I rely on me, myself and I.



Thing is, how many citizens are carrying around a semiautomatic weapon ready to shoot up a mass shooter? What type of firearm will you be using against the shooter?


Always keep a full loaded pistol in any vehicle I am in plus 2 mags - Along with that, I typically always have my rifle in my SUV with mags (locked up of course) - In my own house, I have a few rifles on standby in case someone wants to intrude.

I'd rather have my own weapons nearby or on me than nothing at all and have to rely on a 20-30 min wait for the police to arrive. Could end up shot by then OR if I had my own nearby, I could stop the shooter faster than the police could. It's all about chance and timing.


Let me picture this in my mind, your pistol's magazine holds (guessing) 6 rounds, so you would initially be shooting only 6 rounds against a shooter with say 30 continuous rounds? I don't see how you could stop the shooter.



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 12:36 PM
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a reply to: InTheLight


You want polls that Hillary would win hands down?

Keep up the polls...please.

mg



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 12:36 PM
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originally posted by: liejunkie01

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: InTheLight
you, a foreigner, telling us what we want is hilarious!
you should stick with the poutine and back bacon perhaps it will make you less cranky





I am suggesting you look at successful solutions other countries put into place, is all. And discussing this issue seems to get your back up, maybe you should load up your gun shoot it into the air and where it falls you will know not where.


Have you ever been here in the US?

Have you ever took a wrong exit and end up on State street in East St Louis? How about Compton in California, maybe even remotely strolled down the wrong street in Chicago?

You cannot even fathom how life is here unless you live here everyday.

Your country is nothing like here.

Population or people.

No compatison


So, the wild west scenario is the only way to go at this point, is that what you are saying?



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 12:37 PM
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originally posted by: missed_gear
a reply to: InTheLight


You want polls that Hillary would win hands down?

Keep up the polls...please.

mg




Who doesn't read again?



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 12:37 PM
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originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: IrateCanadian

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: IrateCanadian

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: IrateCanadian

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: IrateCanadian

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: InTheLight

If the solution is a loss of freedom then nope


That freedom does not mean today what it meant when it was written. Now every civilian will be armed against each other, is that how you want to live?



Yes. You endorse removing rights and freedoms.

Admit it.


I endorse removing high capacity magazines (over 10 rounds) that would be a very good start...and only a start.


So you desire a loss of freedoms at least be honest about it


How is reducing your round number a loss of freedom. In what instances do you need mega rounds?


Let me put this in a way you might understand.

You and the rest of the anti-gun crowd are demanding a justification for firearms.


This is just like you standing at a voting booth and demanding a justification before you vote for why you want to vote for a candidate.

It is a police-state, Orwellian action.

It is wrong.


As in Australia, it is right, and they haven't had another mass shooting in 22 years. So obviously your priorities are clear.


Move to Australia then and shut the hell up about magazine caps in USA/NA - Good god.


Just trying to save you from yourselves.



I have my guns and training for that - I'm good, thanks


Other people may not be, is that okay with you?


Just means I have a better chance against those that do not, in which I have to oppose for my own defensive rights. Otherwise, not my problem. If a criminal wants to get a gun with a high cap magazine, then regardless of law - He will. It's not difficult. I'd rather have a high cap mag available when going up against a criminal with a high cap mag.

Why should I give up my right to have a high cap mag when some loser who has no other agenda other than performing an evil act is able to get one regardless of law?

Sounds stupid now doesn't it?

The police/law enforcement is useless. Untrustworthy and unneeded. I rely on me, myself and I.



Thing is, how many citizens are carrying around a semiautomatic weapon ready to shoot up a mass shooter? What type of firearm will you be using against the shooter?


Always keep a full loaded pistol in any vehicle I am in plus 2 mags - Along with that, I typically always have my rifle in my SUV with mags (locked up of course) - In my own house, I have a few rifles on standby in case someone wants to intrude.

I'd rather have my own weapons nearby or on me than nothing at all and have to rely on a 20-30 min wait for the police to arrive. Could end up shot by then OR if I had my own nearby, I could stop the shooter faster than the police could. It's all about chance and timing.


Let me picture this in my mind, your pistol's magazine holds (guessing) 6 rounds, so you would initially be shooting only 6 rounds against a shooter with say 30 continuous rounds? I don't see how you could stop the shooter.



Uhh.. Amount of rounds do not matter when you have proper training?? I could most likely take the pest out with 2-3 along with a double tap to the head once suspect is down. The thing is, I'd RATHER have a high cap mag in instances when someone has a semi-auto or full-auto with a high cap mag, as it makes it easier to move up on the target or to flank them.

What the hell do you think this is? Grab a rifle and spray and pray? That's a waste of ammunition. Some people also do not go down on 3-5 shots to the body - Ever seen someone methed up with a gun? Not easy to take down unless you get a clean shot to the head.

On top of that, what happens if there are more than 1 shooter? Having a high cap mag would definitely be of good use there.

Sure, I may be stuck with a pistol and some mags, but I can at least use that to get somewhere or have a higher chance of getting to my vehicle safely to then grab a more efficient weapon, depending on the situation.
edit on 6-9-2019 by IrateCanadian because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 12:39 PM
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a reply to: shooterbrody

I'm saying that when someone going out and shooting somebody, or multiple people is FAR different than someone dying from lung disease or diabetes.
To use one of in a gun debate argument is at least counterproductive, and at worst, a despicable way to prove a point.



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 12:39 PM
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a reply to: InTheLight

You. You cite polls as if fact while proven wrong.

mg



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 12:41 PM
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originally posted by: IrateCanadian

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: IrateCanadian

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: IrateCanadian

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: IrateCanadian

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: IrateCanadian

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: InTheLight

If the solution is a loss of freedom then nope


That freedom does not mean today what it meant when it was written. Now every civilian will be armed against each other, is that how you want to live?



Yes. You endorse removing rights and freedoms.

Admit it.


I endorse removing high capacity magazines (over 10 rounds) that would be a very good start...and only a start.


So you desire a loss of freedoms at least be honest about it


How is reducing your round number a loss of freedom. In what instances do you need mega rounds?


Let me put this in a way you might understand.

You and the rest of the anti-gun crowd are demanding a justification for firearms.


This is just like you standing at a voting booth and demanding a justification before you vote for why you want to vote for a candidate.

It is a police-state, Orwellian action.

It is wrong.


As in Australia, it is right, and they haven't had another mass shooting in 22 years. So obviously your priorities are clear.


Move to Australia then and shut the hell up about magazine caps in USA/NA - Good god.


Just trying to save you from yourselves.



I have my guns and training for that - I'm good, thanks


Other people may not be, is that okay with you?


Just means I have a better chance against those that do not, in which I have to oppose for my own defensive rights. Otherwise, not my problem. If a criminal wants to get a gun with a high cap magazine, then regardless of law - He will. It's not difficult. I'd rather have a high cap mag available when going up against a criminal with a high cap mag.

Why should I give up my right to have a high cap mag when some loser who has no other agenda other than performing an evil act is able to get one regardless of law?

Sounds stupid now doesn't it?

The police/law enforcement is useless. Untrustworthy and unneeded. I rely on me, myself and I.



Thing is, how many citizens are carrying around a semiautomatic weapon ready to shoot up a mass shooter? What type of firearm will you be using against the shooter?


Always keep a full loaded pistol in any vehicle I am in plus 2 mags - Along with that, I typically always have my rifle in my SUV with mags (locked up of course) - In my own house, I have a few rifles on standby in case someone wants to intrude.

I'd rather have my own weapons nearby or on me than nothing at all and have to rely on a 20-30 min wait for the police to arrive. Could end up shot by then OR if I had my own nearby, I could stop the shooter faster than the police could. It's all about chance and timing.


Let me picture this in my mind, your pistol's magazine holds (guessing) 6 rounds, so you would initially be shooting only 6 rounds against a shooter with say 30 continuous rounds? I don't see how you could stop the shooter.



Uhh.. Amount of rounds do not matter when you have proper training?? I could most likely take the pest out with 2-3 along with a double tap to the head once suspect is down. The thing is, I'd RATHER have a high cap mag in instances when someone has a semi-auto or full-auto with a high cap mag, as it makes it easier to move up on the target or to flank them.

What the hell do you think this is? Grab a rifle and spray and pray? That's a waste of ammunition. Some people also do not go down on 3-5 shots to the body - Ever seen someone methed up with a gun? Not easy to take down unless you get a clean shot to the head.


So, then you don't need a high capacity round magazine to take the pest out (you have just made my point).



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 12:42 PM
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originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: liejunkie01

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: InTheLight
you, a foreigner, telling us what we want is hilarious!
you should stick with the poutine and back bacon perhaps it will make you less cranky





I am suggesting you look at successful solutions other countries put into place, is all. And discussing this issue seems to get your back up, maybe you should load up your gun shoot it into the air and where it falls you will know not where.


Have you ever been here in the US?

Have you ever took a wrong exit and end up on State street in East St Louis? How about Compton in California, maybe even remotely strolled down the wrong street in Chicago?

You cannot even fathom how life is here unless you live here everyday.

Your country is nothing like here.

Population or people.

No compatison


So, the wild west scenario is the only way to go at this point, is that what you are saying?


You didnt answer my question.



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 12:42 PM
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originally posted by: missed_gear
a reply to: InTheLight

You. You cite polls as if fact while proven wrong.

mg




I have come to realize that certain polls accurately reflect the truth.



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 12:42 PM
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originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: IrateCanadian

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: IrateCanadian

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: IrateCanadian

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: IrateCanadian

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: IrateCanadian

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: InTheLight

If the solution is a loss of freedom then nope


That freedom does not mean today what it meant when it was written. Now every civilian will be armed against each other, is that how you want to live?



Yes. You endorse removing rights and freedoms.

Admit it.


I endorse removing high capacity magazines (over 10 rounds) that would be a very good start...and only a start.


So you desire a loss of freedoms at least be honest about it


How is reducing your round number a loss of freedom. In what instances do you need mega rounds?


Let me put this in a way you might understand.

You and the rest of the anti-gun crowd are demanding a justification for firearms.


This is just like you standing at a voting booth and demanding a justification before you vote for why you want to vote for a candidate.

It is a police-state, Orwellian action.

It is wrong.


As in Australia, it is right, and they haven't had another mass shooting in 22 years. So obviously your priorities are clear.


Move to Australia then and shut the hell up about magazine caps in USA/NA - Good god.


Just trying to save you from yourselves.



I have my guns and training for that - I'm good, thanks


Other people may not be, is that okay with you?


Just means I have a better chance against those that do not, in which I have to oppose for my own defensive rights. Otherwise, not my problem. If a criminal wants to get a gun with a high cap magazine, then regardless of law - He will. It's not difficult. I'd rather have a high cap mag available when going up against a criminal with a high cap mag.

Why should I give up my right to have a high cap mag when some loser who has no other agenda other than performing an evil act is able to get one regardless of law?

Sounds stupid now doesn't it?

The police/law enforcement is useless. Untrustworthy and unneeded. I rely on me, myself and I.



Thing is, how many citizens are carrying around a semiautomatic weapon ready to shoot up a mass shooter? What type of firearm will you be using against the shooter?


Always keep a full loaded pistol in any vehicle I am in plus 2 mags - Along with that, I typically always have my rifle in my SUV with mags (locked up of course) - In my own house, I have a few rifles on standby in case someone wants to intrude.

I'd rather have my own weapons nearby or on me than nothing at all and have to rely on a 20-30 min wait for the police to arrive. Could end up shot by then OR if I had my own nearby, I could stop the shooter faster than the police could. It's all about chance and timing.


Let me picture this in my mind, your pistol's magazine holds (guessing) 6 rounds, so you would initially be shooting only 6 rounds against a shooter with say 30 continuous rounds? I don't see how you could stop the shooter.



Uhh.. Amount of rounds do not matter when you have proper training?? I could most likely take the pest out with 2-3 along with a double tap to the head once suspect is down. The thing is, I'd RATHER have a high cap mag in instances when someone has a semi-auto or full-auto with a high cap mag, as it makes it easier to move up on the target or to flank them.

What the hell do you think this is? Grab a rifle and spray and pray? That's a waste of ammunition. Some people also do not go down on 3-5 shots to the body - Ever seen someone methed up with a gun? Not easy to take down unless you get a clean shot to the head.


So, then you don't need a high capacity round magazine to take the pest out (you have just made my point).


And what if there are more than 1 shooters active in the same area? Having more ammo at my disposal - IE high cap mags, would benefit for everyone.



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 12:43 PM
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originally posted by: o0oTOPCATo0o
a reply to: shooterbrody

I'm saying that when someone going out and shooting somebody, or multiple people is FAR different than someone dying from lung disease or diabetes.
To use one of in a gun debate argument is at least counterproductive, and at worst, a despicable way to prove a point.






posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 12:44 PM
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a reply to: InTheLight



I am suggesting you look at successful solutions other countries put into place, is all.

no thanks
refraining from other countries "solutions" is what made us what we are today and is what will keep us a free nation
you follow all the other lemmings off the cliff if you like, we will not



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 12:44 PM
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A flock of sheep were in a field when suddenly a wolf runs out of the woods grabbing one of the sheep with it's teeth, killing it.

The other sheep, having witnessed the wolf using it's teeth to kill, decided it was best if they all had their teeth removed.



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 12:48 PM
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a reply to: MrRCflying

The best answer to any pleb who cannot understand the reason why banning any sort of weapon (other than prohibited) is utterly useless.

I know people with military weapons and they are completely banned where I am, but they have 'em. So now what?



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 12:49 PM
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The real mass shootings begin when some group decides they are going to confiscate guns from the citizens. They will end up being most of the victims.



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 12:49 PM
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originally posted by: liejunkie01

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: liejunkie01

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: InTheLight
you, a foreigner, telling us what we want is hilarious!
you should stick with the poutine and back bacon perhaps it will make you less cranky





I am suggesting you look at successful solutions other countries put into place, is all. And discussing this issue seems to get your back up, maybe you should load up your gun shoot it into the air and where it falls you will know not where.


Have you ever been here in the US?

Have you ever took a wrong exit and end up on State street in East St Louis? How about Compton in California, maybe even remotely strolled down the wrong street in Chicago?

You cannot even fathom how life is here unless you live here everyday.

Your country is nothing like here.

Population or people.

No compatison


So, the wild west scenario is the only way to go at this point, is that what you are saying?


You didnt answer my question.



Yes, I ended up in a dangerous area in New York once but a white knight on a bike saved our behinds. There were other times, like just walking down Broadway in the late 70s and trying to avoid pimps. We also ended up in a dangerous situation on a beach in Bermuda but got out of it by the skin of our teeth.

I have learned since then not to do walkabout in places I don't know.

So, is it to be a wild west resurgence where a wrong look can get you killed?



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 12:51 PM
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I said before so I will put it a different way 547 people can be shot in Australia but if 5 of them do not die, it is not counted as a mass shooting.

If 4 drug dealers have a shootout and all 4 are hit in the US, it is counted as a mass shooting.

Father shoots wife and two kids before shooting himself, mass shooting in US but not in Australia.

Does that make it clear?



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