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The problem with good people

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posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 07:43 AM
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originally posted by: gallop

originally posted by: Analbumcover
I'm a bad person trying to be better.


Not with that username you're not sonnyjim.

Oo


It was YOUR mind that read the user name the way you did....

What's wrong with An Album Cover? I love records.




posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 08:05 AM
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We're not all good people.
Some of us are bad muth^%#!'s.



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 08:50 AM
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The problem with the notion of good and bad is that they are value judgements that reflect the degree of development of the human 'soul' (for want of a better word). Those on different soul levels won't agree on what is good and what is bad, apart from their extreme manifestations, which are universally recognised for what they are. People cannot agree on what constitutes the good and the bad because they have different soul levels that make those on lower levels unable to recognise that their values and views are bad ones that need improving. Overcome their defense of their opinions and values and they will never admit defeat because they cannot reach the level that would make them see where their thinking has gone wrong. Rational argument is supposed to be the way to resolve arguments. But this is a myth because it can never reconcile differences of feelings about right and wrong. Reason alone cannot evolve the lower soul. Only experience can. We learn and change not because of superior arguments but from our errors when we eventually recognise them for what they are. Reason alone can always argue that black is white and white is black. Relying on it to create truth is useless. The wise person is he or she who bypasses the intellect to know how to discern the good from the bad, the right from the wrong. As Blaise Pascal said: "The heart has its reasons which reason knows nothing of."



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 09:02 AM
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a reply to: carsforkids

Deep post, really is.

What one perceives as good, another would consider evil.

I remember a post on another site. A lady purchase a very old house. She updated the interior, but ultimately decided she didn't like the color so she wanted to
sell it and buy another house.

People went nuts, calling her a "bad person". I think that is a perfect example.
I'm sure she didn't think she was bad.



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 09:15 AM
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a reply to: carsforkids

I try to be a good person, but if I'm honest with myself I have to admit that I have an evil streak a mile wide. Good and evil are subjective. What I believe is doing good can be perceived as evil by others, just as what I perceive as evil could be considered good by others. Each situation is unique and dependent upon individual and group qualifiers.

The perception of good and evil is not a black v. white situation but more a plethora of shades of gray vying for dominance and recognition.



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 10:24 AM
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There is too much to one person to boil it all down to being good or bad. I have done good things and bad things. Overall I have done a lot more good than bad, maybe, depends how you define it. I smoke, thats bad, but I like it, thats good.

Good things I have done include helping out others and improving myself. Bad things include neglecting my responsibilities and making mistakes. Some times we do not know where the line is until we cross it, it is bad we crossed the line, but good we found it. Then where do we go from here, get better or worst?

The chance that evil has not entered these boards is 0, I have done evil. I don't like it but cannot change it. How some people are too eager to jump on the war bandwagon without any real justification is evil. Sure the head of state might be an evil fascist dictator, but does that justify the dead and displacement of millions of people? Ignorance is evil. It is too much work to identify and work at the real problems so lets just blow up some part of the world we do not care about to solve it.

Buying into the profits of war without the justification for mass murder is evil. Like what is going on in the economy for ones prosperity to be based on the destruction of another? Sounds like a game of monopoly with one winner and everyone else dead. Is this the rules we really want for a prosperous global economy and how does that work?

There is so much to evil and it does have a tight grip on this world. Repentance is about acknowledging our mistakes. To live in denial is compounding the mistakes. The justice system is getting overloaded with work as people fear to admit they are wrong. There is a lot of evil wrapped up around this too.



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 11:48 AM
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a reply to: eManym




Many people do things that adversely effects others and these people feel their actions are good for themselves disregarding what anybody thinks. Is that considered evil?


Disregarding the adverse effects ones actions have on others



Antisocial personality disorder is characterized by a pervasive pattern of disregard for consequences and for the rights of others.


Source

I believe this personality trait can belong to serial killers rapists and pedophile's.
But not everyone who displays such behavior is willing to face the consequences
for going thus far.

So to answer your question I would answer yes that would be evil. Restrained or not
but remember this is not judgement. Just an opinion of someone very interested and
completely unprofessional.



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 11:57 AM
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a reply to: Advantage




Really good hearts need people who can do evil to do the things they can not or choose not to.


Holy crap! I find that very interesting! Something I have never
thought of before. Please I beg you sincerely can you think of
some examples?

Awesome reply! Very honest.

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posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 12:00 PM
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a reply to: carsforkids

There's no problem with good people other than they keep trusting in bad people pretending to be good people who are secretly assholes waiting for karma to bring them down.
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posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 12:05 PM
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a reply to: kwakakev
I'm always playing the hero role but that shadow has taken over whilst under the influence of spirits.

Billions of people believe the pope to be wholly good but in order to achieve that closeness to the Good.God you would have to commune with the
Evil.God.... Balance and all that.



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 12:14 PM
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a reply to: gallop

Great example why some people are afraid to look at themselves
or the world. Vicious truth is often hilarious depending on the
view.

Excellent thank you for posting that Gallop


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posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 12:34 PM
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a reply to: Bhadhidar




“Evil” destroys for the sake of destruction itself.


As for me I would argue that good has an obligation to destroy evil.

If I dedicate my life to the destruction of pedophilia for example.
I am evil in the eyes of pedophiles but good in the eyes of a world with
a moral construct. As well as my own sight.



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 01:04 PM
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originally posted by: Analbumcover

I'm a bad person trying to be better.



Chances are no worse than everyone else on the planet. I can't declare that
you're trying to be better but if you are? Then take a seat in the front row
because that's what it's really all about isn't it? I don' care how bad you are if
your desire is to turn away and pursue a better person to give the world? Then
good on you big time.


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posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 01:36 PM
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a reply to: eletheia

For me you saved your self with this.



However thats a good principle to live by.


It isn't the same to act on the evil in ones heart and then
" Try to do better". As it is to pursue better before acting out
in evil ways is it.

But doesn't it take a good person to realize the evil in their heart
is just wrong? Doesn't it take a good person to want to be better?
Catch 22 much!



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 02:11 PM
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a reply to: GeauxHomeYoureDrunk




I try to be a good person, but if I'm honest with myself I have to admit that I have an evil streak a mile wide.


What of the concept that evil and good can not exist together? If evil
exists in ones heart they are evil. Therefore none are good and none
are worthy to sit in judgement, point fingers or cast stones.

Then again what kind of a person try's to be a good person?
Surely an evil person would never try to e good! Or would they?

This can really mess with ones psyche!



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 02:17 PM
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originally posted by: carsforkids
a reply to: GeauxHomeYoureDrunk




I try to be a good person, but if I'm honest with myself I have to admit that I have an evil streak a mile wide.


What of the concept that evil and good can not exist together? If evil
exists in ones heart they are evil. Therefore none are good and none
are worthy to sit in judgement, point fingers or cast stones.

Then again what kind of a person try's to be a good person?
Surely an evil person would never try to e good! Or would they?

This can really mess with ones psyche!


There is no such thing as a person who is either all good or all evil. Good and evil, just like light and dark, cannot exist without each other. Without evil there would be no good, and without good there would be no evil. We all have tendencies toward both depending on situation and perception. Killing the aphids to protect my plants is good for my plants yet evil for the aphids- so does that make me good or evil for spraying them with the soapy water? It depends on your perception.



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 02:53 PM
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a reply to: GeauxHomeYoureDrunk




Good and evil, just like light and dark, cannot exist without each other.


Are you sure about this? Because I see it in the complete opposite.

Light must exist or all you have is non existent darkness. There are no
degrees of dark in the absence of light. No speed to darkness. Darkness is
what you have if nothing exists. The only way to defeat the darkness is with
the existence of light. Light has speed light has degrees and different colors.
Light exists without darkness because darkness does not exist. And so to say good
can not exist without evil is just as untrue.
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posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 03:20 PM
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originally posted by: TGunner
a reply to: carsforkids

There's no problem with good people other than they keep trusting in bad people pretending to be good people who are secretly assholes waiting for karma to bring them down.


I disagree

The problem with good people is they are blind to evil people.



When they aren't even good themselves because they allow such
wickedness to exist. Therefore the problem with good people is
that they believe they are good by their own concept in
comparison to absolute evil. Which actually falls far short of
being good because being truly good is not even within reach.



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 09:16 PM
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originally posted by: carsforkids
a reply to: GeauxHomeYoureDrunk




Good and evil, just like light and dark, cannot exist without each other.


Are you sure about this? Because I see it in the complete opposite.

Light must exist or all you have is non existent darkness. There are no
degrees of dark in the absence of light. No speed to darkness. Darkness is
what you have if nothing exists. The only way to defeat the darkness is with
the existence of light. Light has speed light has degrees and different colors.
Light exists without darkness because darkness does not exist. And so to say good
can not exist without evil is just as untrue.



darkness may not exist, but you would not be able to see the light if it did not have something to shine upon.



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 09:44 PM
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a reply to: tgidkp




darkness may not exist, but you would not be able to see the light if it did not have something to shine upon.


Well now for me light doesn't shine upon the darkness.
Light can cut thru the darkness to shine on a tree or a car or
something that does exist. Maybe you can give me an example of
light shinning on the darkness otherwise I think you just verified my
point.




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