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Breixt: Another week of crazy political drama

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posted on Sep, 3 2019 @ 11:22 AM
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originally posted by: UpIsNowDown

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: UpIsNowDown
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Brexit voter here


Sure.




Sure check all my post history, love how people who support vehemently one side of the spectrum like to believe there own voice, not what the other person has shown on more than one occasion, I have stated I voted Brexit numerous times, but hey if it fits your narrative better, dont believe me


Sure.
When a person opens up with "Brexit voter here", it raises my suspicion levels. It's an often used tactic in many debates (not just Brexit) to add 'weight' to ones opinion. Your post history does not suggest that you support the outcome of the referendum at all. Rather it points to your primary concern being your opinion of individuals.
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posted on Sep, 3 2019 @ 11:25 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth

sure

sure

sure

sure

sure

what great insight you have grandma

Bored with you, enjoy your own voice



posted on Sep, 3 2019 @ 11:26 AM
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a reply to: Bluntone22




I was under the impression it meant British exit from the European union.



That is exactly what it means, within that however are quite a few complexities.



posted on Sep, 3 2019 @ 11:28 AM
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originally posted by: UpIsNowDown
a reply to: UKTruth

sure

sure

sure

sure

sure

what great insight you have grandma

Bored with you, enjoy your own voice


'Grandma' ? Ah, you gave yourself away.
Damn old people... why would they have a say ... the remainer platform...

My suspicions were spot on.

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posted on Sep, 3 2019 @ 11:30 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth

Go on enlighten me to what they are?

it may prove fun

try my thread as I must have been lying thru my ass, just for this day

EU parliament to keep public in dark on MEP expenses



posted on Sep, 3 2019 @ 11:32 AM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: Bluntone22




I was under the impression it meant British exit from the European union.



That is exactly what it means, within that however are quite a few complexities.


There are no complexities. It's really very simple.
We voted to leave.



posted on Sep, 3 2019 @ 11:34 AM
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a reply to: PsychoEmperor

lots of problem though in what you're saying.



Why not just have Brexit on the October 31st, have the no deal Brexit.


I really don't want to get into that because its a whole issue on its own but just google "No-Deal Brexit consequences".



Then... Work out any trade deals, etc. you need. I've been following the whole ordeal quite closely(from across the pond) and it all seems like people trying to complicate something that does not need any further complications.


Negotiating a trade deal takes time, its not just something that you can do over night.



ON the Irish Backstop, leave it as is. The EU doesn't like it? tough. Simple


You have this completely backwards, the EU want the backstop its the UK politicians who cannot agree on it.



ON Scotland leaving or not leaving: they'll stay, and if not then they'll go either way you'll be fine, but trust me, they will stay.


Why would Scotland stay?



On Ireland having an open border with the EU... so what? It'll be fine, it's not a problem now, it won't be a problem then. If the EU has a problem with it, they can fix it, but they won't and it'll be fine.


Sorry but so much of this post is just overly optimistic, ahhh it will all be fine not a problem....no sorry but that is just so much wrong with your post I don't honestly even know where to start.



posted on Sep, 3 2019 @ 11:37 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: Bluntone22




I was under the impression it meant British exit from the European union.



That is exactly what it means, within that however are quite a few complexities.


There are no complexities. It's really very simple.
We voted to leave.


Yeah no complexities other than but not limited to

Economic impact of no deal.

Irish border.

Status of UK citizens living in EU.

Lack capacity to deal with checks at border.

Potential shortage of essential goods (including medicine).



posted on Sep, 3 2019 @ 11:39 AM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: Bluntone22




I was under the impression it meant British exit from the European union.



That is exactly what it means, within that however are quite a few complexities.


There are no complexities. It's really very simple.
We voted to leave.


Yeah no complexities other than but not limited to

Economic impact of no deal.

Irish border.

Status of UK citizens living in EU.

Lack capacity to deal with checks at border.

Potential shortage of essential goods (including medicine).





They are not complexities in the People's decision to leave.
They are administrative challenges (some real, some not, some opportunities) for the Post Brexit Govt.

The decision to leave by the people is very clear and very simple.


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posted on Sep, 3 2019 @ 11:44 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: Bluntone22




I was under the impression it meant British exit from the European union.



That is exactly what it means, within that however are quite a few complexities.


There are no complexities. It's really very simple.
We voted to leave.


Yeah no complexities other than but not limited to

Economic impact of no deal.

Irish border.

Status of UK citizens living in EU.

Lack capacity to deal with checks at border.

Potential shortage of essential goods (including medicine).





They are not complexities in the People's decision to leave.
They are administrative challenges (some real, some not, some opportunities) for the Post Brexit Govt.

The decision to leave by the people is very clear and very simple.



Yes it was a very simple vote.

Doesn't make it a simple process and certainly not one without consequences.



posted on Sep, 3 2019 @ 11:46 AM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: Bluntone22




I was under the impression it meant British exit from the European union.



That is exactly what it means, within that however are quite a few complexities.


There are no complexities. It's really very simple.
We voted to leave.


Yeah no complexities other than but not limited to

Economic impact of no deal.

Irish border.

Status of UK citizens living in EU.

Lack capacity to deal with checks at border.

Potential shortage of essential goods (including medicine).





They are not complexities in the People's decision to leave.
They are administrative challenges (some real, some not, some opportunities) for the Post Brexit Govt.

The decision to leave by the people is very clear and very simple.



Yes it was a very simple vote.

Doesn't make it a simple process and certainly not one without consequences.



Yup its a very simple question the complexity arises when you look at how to deliver on that decision.

Its disingenuous pretend that its a simple matter of leaving and that's the end of it.



posted on Sep, 3 2019 @ 11:48 AM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: Bluntone22




I was under the impression it meant British exit from the European union.



That is exactly what it means, within that however are quite a few complexities.


There are no complexities. It's really very simple.
We voted to leave.


Yeah no complexities other than but not limited to

Economic impact of no deal.

Irish border.

Status of UK citizens living in EU.

Lack capacity to deal with checks at border.

Potential shortage of essential goods (including medicine).





They are not complexities in the People's decision to leave.
They are administrative challenges (some real, some not, some opportunities) for the Post Brexit Govt.

The decision to leave by the people is very clear and very simple.



Yes it was a very simple vote.

Doesn't make it a simple process and certainly not one without consequences.



The process of leaving is also very simple. What IS complex is the effort to subvert the will of the people. Very complex indeed. That's a different thing, though.
The administrative challenges are great and the commercial challenges are significant.

edit on 3/9/2019 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 3 2019 @ 11:51 AM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: Bluntone22




I was under the impression it meant British exit from the European union.



That is exactly what it means, within that however are quite a few complexities.


There are no complexities. It's really very simple.
We voted to leave.


Yeah no complexities other than but not limited to

Economic impact of no deal.

Irish border.

Status of UK citizens living in EU.

Lack capacity to deal with checks at border.

Potential shortage of essential goods (including medicine).





They are not complexities in the People's decision to leave.
They are administrative challenges (some real, some not, some opportunities) for the Post Brexit Govt.

The decision to leave by the people is very clear and very simple.



Yes it was a very simple vote.

Doesn't make it a simple process and certainly not one without consequences.



Yup its a very simple question the complexity arises when you look at how to deliver on that decision.

Its disingenuous pretend that its a simple matter of leaving and that's the end of it.


Delivering Brexit is simple and always has been. A really easy process. In fact, as it stands,we need to do the sum total of nothing to deliver Brexit.
Preparing for it and meeting the challenges of a post Brexit Britain is, for sure, complex.
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posted on Sep, 3 2019 @ 11:52 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: Bluntone22




I was under the impression it meant British exit from the European union.



That is exactly what it means, within that however are quite a few complexities.


There are no complexities. It's really very simple.
We voted to leave.


Yeah no complexities other than but not limited to

Economic impact of no deal.

Irish border.

Status of UK citizens living in EU.

Lack capacity to deal with checks at border.

Potential shortage of essential goods (including medicine).





They are not complexities in the People's decision to leave.
They are administrative challenges (some real, some not, some opportunities) for the Post Brexit Govt.

The decision to leave by the people is very clear and very simple.



Yes it was a very simple vote.

Doesn't make it a simple process and certainly not one without consequences.



The process of leaving is also very simple. What IS complex is the effort to subvert the will of the people. Very complex indeed. That's a different thing, though.
The administrative challenges are great and the commercial challenges are significant.


And blindly charging on without workable solutions to the complexities is not really a viable option either.



posted on Sep, 3 2019 @ 11:54 AM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: Bluntone22




I was under the impression it meant British exit from the European union.



That is exactly what it means, within that however are quite a few complexities.


There are no complexities. It's really very simple.
We voted to leave.


Yeah no complexities other than but not limited to

Economic impact of no deal.

Irish border.

Status of UK citizens living in EU.

Lack capacity to deal with checks at border.

Potential shortage of essential goods (including medicine).





They are not complexities in the People's decision to leave.
They are administrative challenges (some real, some not, some opportunities) for the Post Brexit Govt.

The decision to leave by the people is very clear and very simple.



Yes it was a very simple vote.

Doesn't make it a simple process and certainly not one without consequences.



The process of leaving is also very simple. What IS complex is the effort to subvert the will of the people. Very complex indeed. That's a different thing, though.
The administrative challenges are great and the commercial challenges are significant.


And blindly charging on without workable solutions to the complexities is not really a viable option either.


Nice rhetoric, but I don't see anyone blindly charging out without workable solutions. Regardless that has nothing to do with the process of leaving the EU.
You're confusing leaving itself with the challenges of a post Brexit Britain.

Leaving has always been a very simple process, but like I said, subverting the will of the people has become complex.

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posted on Sep, 3 2019 @ 11:54 AM
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originally posted by: oldcarpy
I have to admit this is getting a bit too complicated for me and it's making my brain hurt.


Just need to understand that it is (maybe not) happening.

Unless Europe gets in to big trouble for some reason, then its happening.



posted on Sep, 3 2019 @ 11:56 AM
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a reply to: ScepticScot

3 years we have been waiting for a sign of competency from the MPs in westminster, to get a deal to be proud of, to be left with a clusterfunk instead, what happens when this bunch of idiots from all sides have really got to put some work in on November 1st



posted on Sep, 3 2019 @ 11:57 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: Bluntone22




I was under the impression it meant British exit from the European union.



That is exactly what it means, within that however are quite a few complexities.


There are no complexities. It's really very simple.
We voted to leave.


Yeah no complexities other than but not limited to

Economic impact of no deal.

Irish border.

Status of UK citizens living in EU.

Lack capacity to deal with checks at border.

Potential shortage of essential goods (including medicine).





They are not complexities in the People's decision to leave.
They are administrative challenges (some real, some not, some opportunities) for the Post Brexit Govt.

The decision to leave by the people is very clear and very simple.



Yes it was a very simple vote.

Doesn't make it a simple process and certainly not one without consequences.



The process of leaving is also very simple. What IS complex is the effort to subvert the will of the people. Very complex indeed. That's a different thing, though.
The administrative challenges are great and the commercial challenges are significant.


And blindly charging on without workable solutions to the complexities is not really a viable option either.


Nice rhetoric, but I don't see anyone blindly charging out without workable solutions. Regardless that has nothing to do with the process of leaving the EU.
You're confusing leaving itself with the challenges of a post Brexit Briatin.


No I am stating leaving without a solution to many of the fundamental challenges is grossly irresponsible.

Hoping for the best doesnt really cut it.



posted on Sep, 3 2019 @ 11:59 AM
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originally posted by: UpIsNowDown
a reply to: ScepticScot

3 years we have been waiting for a sign of competency from the MPs in westminster, to get a deal to be proud of, to be left with a clusterfunk instead, what happens when this bunch of idiots from all sides have really got to put some work in on November 1st



Apparently the same parliament that hasn't yet worked out an agreeable deal will miraculously be able to resolve all the inevitable fall out from a no deal brexit...



posted on Sep, 3 2019 @ 12:00 PM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: Bluntone22




I was under the impression it meant British exit from the European union.



That is exactly what it means, within that however are quite a few complexities.


There are no complexities. It's really very simple.
We voted to leave.


Yeah no complexities other than but not limited to

Economic impact of no deal.

Irish border.

Status of UK citizens living in EU.

Lack capacity to deal with checks at border.

Potential shortage of essential goods (including medicine).





They are not complexities in the People's decision to leave.
They are administrative challenges (some real, some not, some opportunities) for the Post Brexit Govt.

The decision to leave by the people is very clear and very simple.



Yes it was a very simple vote.

Doesn't make it a simple process and certainly not one without consequences.



The process of leaving is also very simple. What IS complex is the effort to subvert the will of the people. Very complex indeed. That's a different thing, though.
The administrative challenges are great and the commercial challenges are significant.


And blindly charging on without workable solutions to the complexities is not really a viable option either.


Nice rhetoric, but I don't see anyone blindly charging out without workable solutions. Regardless that has nothing to do with the process of leaving the EU.
You're confusing leaving itself with the challenges of a post Brexit Briatin.


No I am stating leaving without a solution to many of the fundamental challenges is grossly irresponsible.

Hoping for the best doesnt really cut it.


That's not the same argument. But if you have moved on, my response to your new argument would be to ask you to list the fundamental challenges that we have that we have no solution for.







 
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