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originally posted by: EmmanuelGoldstein
Society must be dumbed down in order to completely control its ever expanding populace of useless consumers.
originally posted by: JustJohnny
a reply to: gladtobehere
You believe in the Floride Conspiracy theories, and call yourself a skeptic?!?!
I would argue that the majority of ATSers doubt or question generally accepted conclusions which is why we're here trying to spread the truth about 9/11, vaccines, Fluoride, the moon "landing", the Federal Reserve etc
Not sure how or why the cult like figures in your video are any more "professional" than the journalists and medical professionals in the video that I posted or what makes you think theres a lack of facts or logic in their arguments but feel free to express your opinions.
please tell me why I should be ingesting a waste material which is known to have neurotoxic properties Phage.
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: ChaoticOrder
I don't know that it "is known to have neurotoxic properties" at recommended concentrations. Do you? Do you think that natural fluoridation is safer than artificial fluoridation if it exceeds those concentrations?
I asked a very specific question, for what reason should I ingest fluoride (the vast majority of which comes from industrial manufacturers and is not naturally occurring) if I use toothpaste?
First, can you support your claim that the vast majority of water systems are artificially fluoridated?
Fluoridation became an official policy of the U.S. Public Health Service by 1951, and by 1960 water fluoridation had become widely used in the U.S., reaching about 50 million people. By 2006, 69.2% of the U.S. population on public water systems were receiving fluoridated water, amounting to 61.5% of the total U.S. population; 3.0% of the population on public water systems were receiving naturally occurring fluoride.
Water fluoridation - History
Next, you should have no qualms about ingesting very low concentrations of fluoride if it helps increase the dental health of your community (and it does).
Most countries in Europe have experienced substantial declines in cavities without the use of water fluoridation due to the introduction of fluoridated toothpaste and the large use of other fluoride-containing products, including mouthrinse, dietary supplements, and professionally applied or prescribed gel, foam, or varnish. For example, in Finland and Germany, tooth decay rates remained stable or continued to decline after water fluoridation stopped in communities with widespread fluoride exposure from other sources. Fluoridation is however still clearly necessary in the U.S. because unlike most European countries, the U.S. does not have school-based dental care, many children do not visit a dentist regularly, and for many U.S. children water fluoridation is the prime source of exposure to fluoride. The effectiveness of water fluoridation can vary according to circumstances such as whether preventive dental care is free to all children.
Water fluoridation - Effectiveness
originally posted by: RexKramerPRT
a reply to: paraphi
I read that fluoride is toxic in humans once dose is in the gram range yet is typically dosed in the milligram, 1/1000, range in water supplies. So unless you you are drinking hundreds of liters of water you aren't going to reach a toxic dose. Chlorine, Sodium Hypochlorite, Ferric Sulphate, Alluminium Chloride, Sodium Dioxide are all used in water treatment and all will cause harm in sufficient doses.
Hell, eat enough chocolate and you can poison yourself with Theobromine