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What is Actually Happening in the United States Which Was Predicted 35 Years Ago.

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posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 10:06 AM
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a reply to: EverydayInVA

Norway Happiest and Richest Population in the World ...Yep, Socialism sounds really terrible.


An example of Social Democracy. I find it quite funny how the Capitalists try to say these countries ar examples of Capitalism and yet every member of the public is an owner of the means, everything is designed to help the worker or to help those without to find it...They even have a Public Health Service. Yeah, what a disaster that country is....

edit on 6-9-2019 by DreamerOracle because: (no reason given)




posted on Sep, 7 2019 @ 01:01 AM
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originally posted by: DreamerOracle

Norway Happiest and Richest Population in the World ...Yep, Socialism sounds really terrible.


An example of Social Democracy. I find it quite funny how the Capitalists try to say these countries ar examples of Capitalism and yet every member of the public is an owner of the means, everything is designed to help the worker or to help those without to find it...They even have a Public Health Service. Yeah, what a disaster that country is....


Why is it that you socialists LOVE to LIE?... Norway HAS NEVER been a socialist system...

The economy of a country has to be socialist in order for socialism to exist...

The following graph shows the index of economic freedom of countries like Norway...


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Neither Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Finland, nor the U.S. have a socialist economy... They all have a FREE MARKET SYSTEM...



posted on Sep, 7 2019 @ 01:27 AM
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originally posted by: chr0naut
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No, I never said that. That would be a totally moronically stupid thing to do. I'm not sure why you would think that any reasonable person would think or do that.


Yet Pakistani criminals were labeled by the UK authorities in that report as ASIAN GANGS...

As for your claim that crime from the influx of Muslim immigrants is not that bad in places like the UK, you are ignoring facts like these...


Swedish Police, Accused of Cover-Up, Look Into Reports of Sex Assault at Festival

By Dan Bilefsky

LONDON — The police in Sweden, responding to accusations of a cover-up, said on Monday that they were investigating why the public had not been informed about sexual assaults by men reported to be migrants at a festival in Stockholm last summer.

In echoes of the scandal in Cologne, Germany, where the police are investigating scores of assaults, often involving asylum seekers, on New Year’s Eve, the Swedish newspaper Dagens Nyheter reported over the weekend that a gang of migrant youths had groped young girls at a festival in August.

The attacks in Cologne have intensified the scrutiny of the assaults in Sweden, and even as Chancellor Angela Merkel’s spokesman, Steffen Seibert, said there was no excuse for revenge attacks against immigrants, a group of Pakistanis and a Syrian were targeted in Cologne on Sunday, The Associated Press reported.
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It took days for police to acknowledge the extent of the mass attacks on women celebrating New Year’s Eve in Cologne. The Germans were lucky; in Sweden, similar attacks have been taking place for more than a year and the authorities are still playing catch up. Only now is the truth emerging, both about the attacks and the cover-ups. Stefan Löfven, our Prime Minister, has denounced a ‘double betrayal’ of women and has promised an investigation. But he ought to be asking this: what made the police and even journalists cover up the truth?

The answer can be discovered in the reaction to the Cologne attacks. Sweden prides itself on its sexual equality and has even pioneered a feminist foreign policy. When hundreds of women were reported to have been molested and abused in Cologne — at the hands of an organised mob — the reaction from Swedish politicians and pundits ought to have been one of outrage.
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[url=https://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/01/its-not-only-germany-that-covers-up-mass-sex-attacks-by-migrant-men-swedens-record-is-shameful/]It’s not only Germany that covers up mass sex attacks by migrant men... Sweden’s record is shameful



By Tom Wyke and Jay Akbar For Mailonline and Ulf Andersson In Sweden For Mailonline and Nick Fagge And Sara Malm In Cologne For Mailonline

Published: 11:16 EDT, 8 January 2016 | Updated: 23:52 EDT, 31 January 2016

Security authorities are growing increasingly concerned by the rising number of sex attacks by gangs of migrants which appear to be spreading across Europe.

Finland and Sweden today became the latest European countries to issue warnings to women to be wary of the threat of sex attacks following fresh reports of sexual assaults in the last week, while the Viennese police chief adviced women not to go outside alone in Vienna.

The warnings come as reports emerged that Austrian and German police tried to cover-up the issue over fears of reprisal attacks on asylum seekers and damage to the countries' tourist trade.
...


Migrant rape fears spread across Europe: Women told not to go out at night alone after assaults carried out in Sweden, Finland, Germany, Austria and Switzerland amid warnings gangs are co-ordinating attacks

Notice that one of the reporters whom wrote the above article is Muslim.


The Refugee Rape Gangs of Sweden
A European nation becomes a rape capital -- due to its immigration policies.

February 23, 2017
Dawn Perlmutter

Sweden is the rape capital of the Western world. The general public is unaware of the epidemic of Swedish rapes because there has been an orchestrated effort by mainstream media and the Swedish government to deliberately mischaracterize offenders and downplay the number of incidents. The significant increase in rapes are the direct result of Sweden's open door refugee policy and denial of Muslim culture.

Muslim immigrant rapists believe that all non-Muslim and uncovered women can be lawfully taken for sexual use; hence rape and sexual assaults are justified. Appearance, particularly for women, is an important aspect of Sharia Islamic law. Modesty is how women achieve honor and to appear in anything revealing brings shame not only for her but for the entire family. Almost all Muslim governments encourage and even legally obligate women to dress modestly: at a minimum to wear a headscarf, in some countries a veil and in others a full body covering.
...


The Refugee Rape Gangs of Sweden A European nation becomes a rape capital -- due to its immigration policies.


Shootings, hand-grenade attacks and gang warfare have made some city areas no-go zones
Paulina Neuding

January was a particularly violent month in Sweden. A 63-year-old man was killed in Stockholm by a hand grenade lying in the street. A Dutch exchange student was hit by a stray bullet during an execution-style killing at a pizza restaurant in Uppsala. In Gothenburg, a hand grenade was thrown into a flat and exploded in the kitchen — the same predominantly immigrant-populated suburb where an eight-year-old British boy was killed in a grenade attack less than two years ago. In Malmö, a grenade was tossed at a police station and exploded outside. So it has not, so far, been a very happy new year.

And don't give me that BS "oh, I don't believe those articles..."



For Swedes, this has become a familiar theme. Gun violence is on the rise, with daylight shootings and without regard for bystanders. In the past nine years, reported and attempted murders involving guns have almost doubled. According to Swedish police, hand-grenade attacks (which were virtually unknown until a few years ago) are without parallel in countries not at war.
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Violent crime in Sweden is soaring. When will politicians act?



posted on Sep, 7 2019 @ 01:28 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Economic Freedom Score. What the hell is that?

I mean, it's a nice chart and everything. But what does it measure?

What's the overall ranking of the US? Worldwise?

edit on 9/7/2019 by Phage because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 7 2019 @ 01:33 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse




Norway HAS NEVER been a socialist system...


Nor can the US ever be one. It's just not set up that way.

Socialized medicine does not socialism make. As your groovy chart seems to indicate.

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posted on Sep, 7 2019 @ 01:38 AM
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posted on Sep, 7 2019 @ 01:45 AM
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Actually it was 54 years ago




posted on Sep, 7 2019 @ 02:13 AM
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originally posted by: khnum
Actually it was 54 years ago





# eh, hard to argue with what the man said, sad that the writing has been on the wall 50 odd years and still we plummet into darkness.



posted on Sep, 7 2019 @ 02:55 AM
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a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

The Hindus have a timeline where 2/3 of time is run by good then evil progressively takes over until eventually it all blows up and we start again,we are in that dark period Kali Yuga according to them now,


edit on 7-9-2019 by khnum because: spelling



posted on Sep, 8 2019 @ 03:11 PM
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originally posted by: DreamerOracle
a reply to: EverydayInVA

Norway Happiest and Richest Population in the World ...Yep, Socialism sounds really terrible.


An example of Social Democracy. I find it quite funny how the Capitalists try to say these countries ar examples of Capitalism and yet every member of the public is an owner of the means, everything is designed to help the worker or to help those without to find it...They even have a Public Health Service. Yeah, what a disaster that country is....

Such a intellectual dishonest argument...

I find it quite funny that people think the same policies that work for very low population low diversity countries can work on very high population high diversity nation's.

There is also this...
How capitalism saved Sweden.



posted on Sep, 8 2019 @ 07:42 PM
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a reply to: chr0naut



when the historical truth is that as a per capita of population, refugees and asylum seekers are less crime ridden than the indigenous citizens (probably because they are dirt poor and don't have any social contacts compared to the citizens).


Now wait a minute. I thought poverty caused crime... at least that's been the leftist talking point for three or four decades (at least). Of course, the stat you're attempting to lay claim to is false and in fact illegals commit far more crime than the native population or legal immigrant population. Refugees communities are notoriously criminal as well.



posted on Sep, 8 2019 @ 07:51 PM
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a reply to: Phage



Reducing the flow? How?


Pretty simple, deny entry.



There must be something that makes someone leave their home and walk/hitch a couple of thousand miles, coughing up pretty much everything they have in order to do so.

Yes the left advertises all of the free money they'll give these people if they come. They advertise it right in their home countries.



Is it that "American Dream" thing?


If the american dream is to come sign up for welfare, yeah that's it. But if it's to come here and compete and be free it's not that. After all, if it were they'd never vote democrat which means democrats wouldn't want them here.



False advertising?


I haven't seen an advertisement for the american dream, so probably not.



There are laws which cover "letting them in."


Yes, and they need to be changed.



Sadly, those laws seem to favor those who are seeking a better life in this country and/or fleeing something pretty awful. Imagine that.


It is sad, imagine if these caravans of tens of thousands of people marched on their governments rather than our border. They could make life better for the millions in their own country, instead they come here and lower our standard of living. The current situation is lose-lose.



posted on Sep, 8 2019 @ 09:22 PM
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originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: chr0naut



when the historical truth is that as a per capita of population, refugees and asylum seekers are less crime ridden than the indigenous citizens (probably because they are dirt poor and don't have any social contacts compared to the citizens).


Now wait a minute. I thought poverty caused crime...


Actually, there are many who endure poverty but who commit no crime. One might argue more forcefully that it is the desire ownership of someone else's wealth that causes crime. Even rich people do that and then commit criminal acts to get it. So it isn't poverty, but wealth that causes crime.

But anyway, What would the poverty stricken steal from their peers?

[begin sarcasm]

"Give me everything that you have, all your deep poverty, unserviceable debts and starving children, now, or I'll wiggle my thumb and yell 'bang'! (couldn't actually afford a gun)"

[end sarcasm]


at least that's been the leftist talking point for three or four decades (at least). Of course, the stat you're attempting to lay claim to is false and in fact illegals commit far more crime than the native population or legal immigrant population. Refugees communities are notoriously criminal as well.


Please show valid statistical support for that.

edit on 8/9/2019 by chr0naut because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 8 2019 @ 09:33 PM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

originally posted by: chr0naut
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No, I never said that. That would be a totally moronically stupid thing to do. I'm not sure why you would think that any reasonable person would think or do that.


Yet Pakistani criminals were labeled by the UK authorities in that report as ASIAN GANGS...


So?...


As for your claim that crime from the influx of Muslim immigrants is not that bad in places like the UK, you are ignoring facts like these...


Swedish Police, Accused of Cover-Up, Look Into Reports of Sex Assault at Festival

By Dan Bilefsky

LONDON — The police in Sweden, responding to accusations of a cover-up, said on Monday that they were investigating why the public had not been informed about sexual assaults by men reported to be migrants at a festival in Stockholm last summer.

In echoes of the scandal in Cologne, Germany, where the police are investigating scores of assaults, often involving asylum seekers, on New Year’s Eve, the Swedish newspaper Dagens Nyheter reported over the weekend that a gang of migrant youths had groped young girls at a festival in August.

The attacks in Cologne have intensified the scrutiny of the assaults in Sweden, and even as Chancellor Angela Merkel’s spokesman, Steffen Seibert, said there was no excuse for revenge attacks against immigrants, a group of Pakistanis and a Syrian were targeted in Cologne on Sunday, The Associated Press reported.
...






It took days for police to acknowledge the extent of the mass attacks on women celebrating New Year’s Eve in Cologne. The Germans were lucky; in Sweden, similar attacks have been taking place for more than a year and the authorities are still playing catch up. Only now is the truth emerging, both about the attacks and the cover-ups. Stefan Löfven, our Prime Minister, has denounced a ‘double betrayal’ of women and has promised an investigation. But he ought to be asking this: what made the police and even journalists cover up the truth?

The answer can be discovered in the reaction to the Cologne attacks. Sweden prides itself on its sexual equality and has even pioneered a feminist foreign policy. When hundreds of women were reported to have been molested and abused in Cologne — at the hands of an organised mob — the reaction from Swedish politicians and pundits ought to have been one of outrage.
...


[url=https://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/01/its-not-only-germany-that-covers-up-mass-sex-attacks-by-migrant-men-swedens-record-is-shameful/]It’s not only Germany that covers up mass sex attacks by migrant men... Sweden’s record is shameful



By Tom Wyke and Jay Akbar For Mailonline and Ulf Andersson In Sweden For Mailonline and Nick Fagge And Sara Malm In Cologne For Mailonline

Published: 11:16 EDT, 8 January 2016 | Updated: 23:52 EDT, 31 January 2016

Security authorities are growing increasingly concerned by the rising number of sex attacks by gangs of migrants which appear to be spreading across Europe.

Finland and Sweden today became the latest European countries to issue warnings to women to be wary of the threat of sex attacks following fresh reports of sexual assaults in the last week, while the Viennese police chief adviced women not to go outside alone in Vienna.

The warnings come as reports emerged that Austrian and German police tried to cover-up the issue over fears of reprisal attacks on asylum seekers and damage to the countries' tourist trade.
...


Migrant rape fears spread across Europe: Women told not to go out at night alone after assaults carried out in Sweden, Finland, Germany, Austria and Switzerland amid warnings gangs are co-ordinating attacks

Notice that one of the reporters whom wrote the above article is Muslim.


The Refugee Rape Gangs of Sweden
A European nation becomes a rape capital -- due to its immigration policies.

February 23, 2017
Dawn Perlmutter

Sweden is the rape capital of the Western world. The general public is unaware of the epidemic of Swedish rapes because there has been an orchestrated effort by mainstream media and the Swedish government to deliberately mischaracterize offenders and downplay the number of incidents. The significant increase in rapes are the direct result of Sweden's open door refugee policy and denial of Muslim culture.

Muslim immigrant rapists believe that all non-Muslim and uncovered women can be lawfully taken for sexual use; hence rape and sexual assaults are justified. Appearance, particularly for women, is an important aspect of Sharia Islamic law. Modesty is how women achieve honor and to appear in anything revealing brings shame not only for her but for the entire family. Almost all Muslim governments encourage and even legally obligate women to dress modestly: at a minimum to wear a headscarf, in some countries a veil and in others a full body covering.
...


The Refugee Rape Gangs of Sweden A European nation becomes a rape capital -- due to its immigration policies.


Shootings, hand-grenade attacks and gang warfare have made some city areas no-go zones
Paulina Neuding

January was a particularly violent month in Sweden. A 63-year-old man was killed in Stockholm by a hand grenade lying in the street. A Dutch exchange student was hit by a stray bullet during an execution-style killing at a pizza restaurant in Uppsala. In Gothenburg, a hand grenade was thrown into a flat and exploded in the kitchen — the same predominantly immigrant-populated suburb where an eight-year-old British boy was killed in a grenade attack less than two years ago. In Malmö, a grenade was tossed at a police station and exploded outside. So it has not, so far, been a very happy new year.

And don't give me that BS "oh, I don't believe those articles..."



For Swedes, this has become a familiar theme. Gun violence is on the rise, with daylight shootings and without regard for bystanders. In the past nine years, reported and attempted murders involving guns have almost doubled. According to Swedish police, hand-grenade attacks (which were virtually unknown until a few years ago) are without parallel in countries not at war.
....

Violent crime in Sweden is soaring. When will politicians act?


So, are you suggesting that the police should target migrants in general?

How does the identification of a group, the majority of whom have never committed a crime, assist in either preventing or prosecuting crimes?

Should you, personally, be locked up or harassed because there are criminals who happen to be of your nationality?

Do you honestly think that law enforcement should go after random people who happen to be the same ethnicity, dress code, football club, or whatever, as some criminal?

edit on 8/9/2019 by chr0naut because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 9 2019 @ 03:29 PM
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Americans are really a strange bunch as an outsider looking in.

You have socialized police.
You have socialized fire departments.
You have socialized educated for children.
You have a military that spent $2,500,000,000,000,000 on turning Iraq into a desert.

Yet, god forbid somebody wants to see a doctor and you scream "SOCIALISM".


The only thing I can compare it to, is imagining turning on the TV to see a country that spends trillions on wars it shouldn't be involved in, completely wasting tons and tons of money going down the drain, and at the same time charge it's poor citizens thousands of dollars when they get burgled, or when a crime is committed.

911: Hello
Victim: "I'm being attacked"
911: Do you have insurance?



posted on Sep, 10 2019 @ 03:35 AM
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a reply to: chr0naut

There is more to crime than theft... but are you really arguing that poverty stricken areas are not the most criminal areas of the country? You sure that's the angle you want to take?



Please show valid statistical support for that.

OK. Read this and his prior post about it.



posted on Sep, 10 2019 @ 03:57 AM
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a reply to: Debunkology



Americans are really a strange bunch as an outsider looking in.


LOL, I bet we are.



You have socialized police.

Wrong



You have socialized fire departments.

Wrong



You have socialized educated for children.

Wrong, but man if you were right you couldn't have picked a worse example. "Your healthcare will be as good as a public education!" Every parent who sent their kids to public schools would show up to vote against that.



You have a military that spent $2,500,000,000,000,000 on turning Iraq into a desert.

Wrong. At most 1/1000th of that. Gawd help us if we spend a couple quadrillion dollars when our entire economy is only 22 trillion.



Yet, god forbid somebody wants to see a doctor and you scream "SOCIALISM".

Yeah, that's never happened. We only scream socialism when someone wants to use government force to make others pay for their doctor visit. It's a free country, they can see as many doctors as they'd like, they'll just have to pay for it like anyone else.



The only thing I can compare it to, is imagining turning on the TV to see a country that spends trillions on wars it shouldn't be involved in, completely wasting tons and tons of money going down the drain, and at the same time charge it's poor citizens thousands of dollars when they get burgled, or when a crime is committed.


Well, the only reason you're unable to come up with a better comparison is because you don't seem to understand legitimate government function vs socialism. In your education they blurred that line for you so they could control you. I feel bad for you, really.



posted on Sep, 10 2019 @ 04:32 AM
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originally posted by: Dfairlite
Wrong


Oh, so the American police is not funded by the US taxpayer?



Wrong


Oh, so American fire-departments are not funded by the US taxpayer?



Wrong


Oh, so American children to not have the right to education funded by the US taxpayer?



Wrong


It gets worse. The Pentagon cannot account for $21,000,000,000,000 in military spending from 1998-2015.



Yeah, that's never happened. We only scream socialism when someone wants to use government force to make others pay for their doctor visit. It's a free country, they can see as many doctors as they'd like, they'll just have to pay for it like anyone else.



The US government forces it's citizens to pay for the incredible waste of the US military. This money could be better spent.




Well, the only reason you're unable to come up with a better comparison is because you don't seem to understand legitimate government function vs socialism. In your education they blurred that line for you so they could control you. I feel bad for you, really.




National Health care is a legitimate government function for many first world nations around the world. Don't feel bad for me. I feel bad for the lack of health coverage for 44,000,000 Americans. And how the US medical insurance companies treat their "customers". How US medical care is so expensive, and how an industry that makes billions and billions in profits fund lobbyists to keep sheep like you in check.



posted on Sep, 10 2019 @ 06:04 AM
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Oh, so the American police is not funded by the US taxpayer?
Oh, so American fire-departments are not funded by the US taxpayer?
Oh, so American fire-departments are not funded by the US taxpayer?


Sure, but that doesn't make it socialist. I mean, if you think ben franklin was a socialist (the engineer of the current fire department system in the USA) then you're beyond any rational understanding of government function vs private function. Every government service is not socialism. Once you wrap your mind around that then we can discuss why healthcare isn't a legitimate government endeavor. Until then you can continue on repeating the lines of your overlords who want to continue to take away your freedom.



I feel bad for the lack of health coverage for 44,000,000 Americans.


You do? because last I checked that number never went to zero even when they were mandated to buy insurance (and would be subsidized if they couldn't afford it). So why do you feel bad for them? It's kind of weird to feel bad for people who don't buy something they're capable of buying.



And how the US medical insurance companies treat their "customers".


You mean how the customers have recourse against private companies when they don't live up to their promises, yet there is no real recourse against a government. Ask charlie gard's parents. I mean, the whole idea that these people had secured treatment and the funds to move him to it yet the NHS said f*ck off and die, is much more repulsing than a bill. He's not the first and won't be the last.



How US medical care is so expensive


I won't say we have a trouble free healthcare system but I'd point to our lifestyles as a major contributor to our healthcare costs. What's our obesity rate compared to these other countries? What are the risk factors with obesity? What's the cost of managing those risks and complications?



and how an industry that makes billions and billions in profits fund lobbyists to keep sheep like you in check.


While it sounds big, billions and billions isn't actually all that much. I mean there are 330+ million people in the us. If the industry made $100 in profit off everyone that's 33 billion dollars... That's off less than $10 a month per person. So while you rage about the greed of others (likely stemming from deep rooted envy) you'll have to forgive me for not really taking you seriously.
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posted on Sep, 10 2019 @ 08:12 AM
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You are right. We never will.




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