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What is Actually Happening in the United States Which Was Predicted 35 Years Ago.

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posted on Sep, 2 2019 @ 08:23 PM
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a reply to: TheGreatWork


Did you watch the video? Your retirement wont be anything if this country falls. You seem to have the attitude of, "They came for this, but I was not that". Your not safe either.


Are you sure about that?

I live on 400 or so acres in Montana, have a nice river running through it, am in a position to grow food all year long, have an orchard, berry patches, 40-50 elk that sleep in the north pasture in the winter.

I've a pond stocked with trout and bass. I'm offgrid... a combination of hydro-solar. I have no bills besides my property taxes and an internet connection, which I essentially pay by selling a wine that I make.

I barter with a lot of people in the area and have skill sets that I will always be in demand for.

When I retire I won't need the money.

And judging the current Democratic push for full-on tyranny, I'll probably be safer if the country falls.

You may need to worry a little more than I am...



edit on 2-9-2019 by Lumenari because: (no reason given)




posted on Sep, 2 2019 @ 09:23 PM
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originally posted by: MiddleInsite
a reply to: Lumenari

Tell it to the farmers. I'm sure they'd agree.


The guy I go to for an occasional few million in capital when I need it is a farmer.

He looks to be doing just fine.




posted on Sep, 2 2019 @ 09:24 PM
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What's terrifying is that you can almost predict by thread content in the op, who's going to reply and what they're going to say.

By virtue, the same brainwashing...



posted on Sep, 2 2019 @ 09:26 PM
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originally posted by: odzeandennz
What's terrifying is that you can almost predict by thread content in the op, who's going to reply and what they're going to say.

By virtue, the same brainwashing...


I think the irony of your post is going to be lost on you...




posted on Sep, 2 2019 @ 09:30 PM
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originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: odzeandennz
What's terrifying is that you can almost predict by thread content in the op, who's going to reply and what they're going to say.

By virtue, the same brainwashing...


I think the irony of your post is going to be lost on you...



And.. Right on cue..


Then you insult me right? No wait you sorta went insult kinda in your reply. Pat yourself on the back wink.

A meme?
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posted on Sep, 2 2019 @ 09:43 PM
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originally posted by: odzeandennz

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: odzeandennz
What's terrifying is that you can almost predict by thread content in the op, who's going to reply and what they're going to say.

By virtue, the same brainwashing...


I think the irony of your post is going to be lost on you...



And.. Right on cue..


Then you insult me right? No wait you sorta went insult kinda in your reply. Pat yourself on the back wink.

A meme?


Erm...

I think you missed the point.

I reply to certain topics because I am interested in them, have an opinion on them, will respond a certain way.

So do you, so do a lot of others on ATS and everywhere else.

That you posted the opinion you did isn't even new for you.

So calling out the posters who are going to respond to a certain OP a certain way when you do the same is ironic.

It wasn't an insult... it was just ironic.

~sigh~



posted on Sep, 2 2019 @ 09:46 PM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

originally posted by: chr0naut

Not true.

Trump Administration Civil and Human Rights Rollbacks - civilrights.org
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What is not true is the claim that POTUS Trump is trampling people's rights... It has been shown before that OBAMA was the first one to want to put a travel ban on those countries, and the list of Muslim nations that POTUS Trump wanted to put travel bans on was the SAME LIST Obama had... Not to mention the FACT that the travel ban is in what 7 countries out of like 50 Muslim countries?...



There are between 49 and 51 Muslim-majority countries in the world, according to estimates from 2010. The fluctuation is a result of the changing demographics in countries where Muslims comprise around 50 percent of the population.
...

www.reference.com...

Those countries that POTUS Trump wanted to put a travel extension on are countries in which radical Muslims have had control of.

Are you going to continue to try, like you always do, to lie your way through and attempt to derail threads like this one?... Or will you actually discuss what the thread is about?...


Firstly, that is only the first point in a list on that site.

But anyway, how have I attempted to derail this thread?

There have been many predictions over the last 35 years about how the American situation will unfold. Everything is proceeding as expected.



posted on Sep, 2 2019 @ 10:09 PM
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a reply to: Lumenari

You win.



posted on Sep, 2 2019 @ 10:18 PM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

originally posted by: chr0naut

Which country in the world has the highest incarceration rate?

You cannot get any more absolute than that.


Ah, so perhaps you want a world system like China's, in which people are executed for almost any crime INCLUDING Drugs, and the family of those executed are charged for the bullet used to execute their relative...


Umm, isn't jurisprudence in China off topic in the discussion of the current American situation being predicted 35 years ago?


Or what about the programs in some European nations in which prisons have been converted into 5 star motels and criminals get to live like kings and queens at the expense of tax payers?...


Riiiight, you believe that? OK.




You want to talk about which country is more free and you ignore the fact that now in many European countries, including Sweden, people can be sent to jail and pay hefty fines if they dare report that Muslim refugee neighbors are defecating/urinating in the streets?...

Woman, 70, Says Migrants Defecate In Streets, Set Cars on Fire. Cops Charge Her With Hate Crime.


A fake news site, referencing a two year old article from another fake news site, that references a four year old article from another fake news site. What is the 70 year old womans name? Who were the judges? Where did she live (town and district)? Where was it prosecuted? Who was prosecuting it? Since the article was so old, what was the outcome of the case? Wouldn't you be really gullible if you believed any of this?


Or what about this?

Swedish Whistleblower Cop Put on Notice for Claiming Gang Rape ‘Cultural Phenomenon’ Linked to Mass Migration


A but more credible, but, as per the article, the case was from three years ago and has been dropped. Perhaps you should ask yourself why you believe such an old non-news story is relevant now?


People are so free in Sweden and other European countries...


Yes, they are.

... and in Asian countries, and on the Indian and African continents. It's like the whole world is experiencing the 21st Century at the same time that America is! Wow!!!






posted on Sep, 2 2019 @ 10:21 PM
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originally posted by: odzeandennz
a reply to: Lumenari

You win.


I certainly didn't want to, on this occasion...

You're fun to talk to.

Maybe they are right and we need a sarcasm font...



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posted on Sep, 2 2019 @ 11:25 PM
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a reply to: Lumenari

You are in a much better situation than my family and I, but we also made a lot of preparations in case of an economic crash. We live close to a river but high enough, about 19 feet, just in case it floods. There is lots of fishing and wildlife around here, and I have some off grid batteries and systems that recharge the batteries by pedaling.

We have less than an acre but enough to plant food. We have a lemon tree, it's still small but gives a lot of lemons, as well as a blueberry and tomato bushes which are in pots in the house because they would die in the winters here. We are thinking about planting an apple tree but the cold temperatures of where we live can surpass the cold apple trees can survive under.

We have over a year of supplies and food we keep recycling also just in case.

People should be prepared as much as they can imo. Even the greatest of civilizations have crashed and burned because people were not prepared.




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posted on Sep, 2 2019 @ 11:37 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Everything ends... that's the way of civilizations.

Not saying it's going to happen tomorrow, but the wise people prepare.

I lost my income once for about 6 months... kept the business going but needed to pay the people that kept it going so that we could keep going.

We lived on what we had, bartered a bit and were just fine.

My father called it food insurance.

So it's not only for the end of the world... it's about being prepared for life's little ups and downs.

Besides... is there anything better than eating a meal from your own property?

To me, that's the definition of freedom.




posted on Sep, 2 2019 @ 11:53 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

Umm, isn't jurisprudence in China off topic in the discussion of the current American situation being predicted 35 years ago?



Did you completely lose the context of my response to you?... It seems you did...


originally posted by: chr0naut
Riiiight, you believe that? OK.



My statement is factual, yours isn't... just a piece of advice for the future... Perhaps you shouldn't laugh at your own ignorance...





originally posted by: chr0naut
A fake news site, referencing a two year old article from another fake news site, that references a four year old article from another fake news site. What is the 70 year old womans name? Who were the judges? Where did she live (town and district)? Where was it prosecuted? Who was prosecuting it? Since the article was so old, what was the outcome of the case? Wouldn't you be really gullible if you believed any of this?


Oh right... i forgot, you post lies in almost every one of your posts but you are one of those people whom want to claim that any independent or conservative news article is fake meanwhile you drown yourself in the lies your own left-wing media of choice tells you...

You obviously even ignored the fact that the article I gave even gave a link to the translation of the Swedish newspaper, "FriaTider", that reported about the old lady...

Link




originally posted by: chr0naut
A but more credible, but, as per the article, the case was from three years ago and has been dropped. Perhaps you should ask yourself why you believe such an old non-news story is relevant now?



Yet somehow you also missed the fact that after it was dropped the authorities made new claims about the reporter...


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but Springare was once again threatened with action as some claimed he hadhacked into police computers to find statistics he used in a column for a local newspaper.
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From article

BTW, that article is from 2018, not from 3 years ago...



originally posted by: chr0naut
Yes, they are.

... and in Asian countries, and on the Indian and African continents. It's like the whole world is experiencing the 21st Century at the same time that America is! Wow!!!






Yeah as long as they tow the party lies, but when they dare question it by reporting crimes from the influx of immigrants these people find themselves in trouble...

From 2018.

Sweden: Woman faces two years in prison for making jokes about Islam

But I am sure you are going to label that article, or any others that DARE report them as "fake news" meanwhile you keep on swimming in a sea of ignorance from your own making by labeling articles as "fake news" simply because you don't want to accept them...




edit on 2-9-2019 by ElectricUniverse because: Correct excerpts.



posted on Sep, 3 2019 @ 08:09 AM
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a reply to: Lumenari

Not everybody can live off the land. So let's hope there is no doom this lifetime
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posted on Sep, 3 2019 @ 08:17 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Yea it's a hate speech crime, i think Canada may have those too. It's not just Islam , but any group of people.

www.vice.com...

It's a slippery slope when free speech starts to disclude "hate speech".



posted on Sep, 3 2019 @ 08:33 AM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

Socialism is never good. It never works except maybe on the smallest scale of the immediate nuclear family, but since the communists want to destroy that too. It never works.



posted on Sep, 3 2019 @ 08:34 AM
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originally posted by: blueman12
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Yea it's a hate speech crime, i think Canada may have those too. It's not just Islam , but any group of people.

www.vice.com...

It's a slippery slope when free speech starts to disclude "hate speech".


It's because the truth hurts and everyone hates hearing it.



posted on Sep, 3 2019 @ 09:33 AM
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There are ultra rich people in every country on Earth. There is a wealth gap in every country. The type of economy won't prevent that. Where the type of economy matters is the one that allows anyone with work ethic and brilliant ideas to move up the ladder from poor to wealthy.



posted on Sep, 3 2019 @ 09:52 AM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse


Every democrat representative is right now making these false promises of "EVERYTHING FREE"


Can you be specific?



posted on Sep, 3 2019 @ 09:58 AM
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You work for almost same wages you did 20 years ago while the cost of living has skyrocked.
And yet we have these threads about socialism being the biggest threat.
Roflmao.







 
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