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originally posted by: SourceTruth
a reply to: TGunner
I think it is much less than that.
I think only about 1-2 million real souls exist in this world. The rest are soulless.
Yes i said it twice, because as it should have been clearly obvious i'm not interested anymore, but you did not reply to anything but to excuse your reactions to other people
1. The matrix is an old concept very well understood, you did not find anything new there to tell us about 2. NPCs is a very old concept that everyone knows about and it doesn't add anything new as well 3. The lady on youtube doesn't really have anything new in the same way as above, she is just refactoring your brain in her own style, with concepts everyone else already moved over way too long ago, she's just reusing those concepts to make it look like something new
4. This is boring and i'm not interested because i did not find anything new i could learn
originally posted by: TGunner
It sure seems that way most of the time doesn't it? Perhaps i'm being a bit too generous with my % rate.
No, it cannot be found elsewhere. I asked you and others to show me but you haven't been able to show me where you found it elsewhere.
Some of the things she talks about may have a resemblance to things from other places, which is what is confusing you and others on this thread.
Besides, this thread is not about that channel, it is about the idea if everyone has a soul or not.
I said that you could use the two terms in different contexts to describe different things. You need to stop trying to argue over the details of my statements and start to look at the statement as a whole because you don't seem to have any arguments against it.
You keep bringing up my age to call me immature.
Those are only different ways of describing the same idea. You try to paint as deceptive somehow but I only did that in response to your post. I was only trying to describe it in a different way, so I would avoid using the word "soul" in response to what you said.
I changed from using the word soul to using consciousness so I could describe my statement better, and this was in response to your statements.
I tried to change my statement in response but yet you still attack me for it.
Alright, I'll give it to you, I am arrogant teenager. Then prove me wrong.
No, I can't accept that it has been heard before, because I don't think so.
Why do I have to accept that it has been heard before?
I don't just accept that because you said so.
I may not have a lot of life experience, but I believe that my life experience is enough to make me think that most of the people in this world are. That is what I meant.
Again, what is wrong with my linking to this one youtube channel? You keep attacking me over this.
And yes it is an attack because you keep needlessly pointing it out.
I only linked to that one channel that provides valuable information.
How are you so sure that this youtube channel that i linked to is wrong?
my beliefs about reality are actually quite similar however I cannot conclude others are soulless with out getting to know a person on a personal level and anyone claiming this type of nonsense is disturbing.
again you go from what is interpreted as definitive statements about how its it hasn't now to you don't think it has.
originally posted by: SourceTruth
a reply to: UK2315
No, we all have brains, that doesn't mean we all have consciousness.
originally posted by: TGunner
a reply to: SourceTruth
Agreed.
It's not hard to see through the veil, the distinction between evil and good is easy if your awake to it.
You have proven you are, I have observed this and said it. How could I prove you are not, only you can prove you are not an arrogant teen by being a little more mature. Prove you wrong? OK Mr smart guy, how does one prove a negative? please explain.
How can anyone argue when you wont clarify things? Is consciousness not a state of being aware? If not why have we humans defined as such and what makes you know its not, what is consciousness then?
and also about how according to you not every has consciousness which is still beyond me. Still no explanations? I asked you to please define what consciousness is then and why its not how the term is already defined. because so far you haven't, you just said its deeper than being conscious. and you answer with more obfuscation here quoted below
No attacks just pointing out that its ignorant to only make conclusions from only one source of information. But I guess this will be interpreted as more attacks.
I have mentioned your age maybe once, should I start playing this game and say you keep mentioning age as well as you claim to be smarter than others your age and adults alike? I have pointed out and quoted the immature and arrogant things you have said, I said its expected because most teens are this way yet you claim not to be but show you are. Do I really need to keep quoting the immature and arrogant things you are saying? Why do you take insult to that and not maybe take a look at yourself and what you are saying? No, you have jump on to a defensive and argumentative stance just like any other brainwashed cult member that defends their belief. age doesn't matter, but an attitude like yours is expected from a younger person which is not to say adults don't act the same as many have and do. you need stop looking at this as an attack and see it as outside observation of your attitude, you are not that close minded that you cannot see things from other perspectives are you? You have ignored all the positive things I have said and focus on the negatives and interpret them as an attack. Consciousness, a state of being aware. I guess you are right, not everyone has this state of awareness as some are just toooooo programmed.
Even if some people may not like the idea that some people are soulless, that doesn't mean it is not true. Some truths can be hard to accept.
You argue over small things like my choice of words and try to attack me for it.
But I am saying she has ideas than can't be found anywhere else.
No it is not simply a state of being aware. It can be defined that way but that is not all that consciousness is.
Why are you attacking my statement by calling it an obfuscation?
I was only trying to explain to you something about how those two words are different in a way.
I don't see how I have "only" made conclusions from that one source. All that I have done is link to the source because I agree with their information. You are just assuming this.
My statements are not arrogant and immature
Okay, I am arrogant, but I can still back up my arguments better than you.
The only truth and its one that seems to be passing you by is that a soul is belief based, one held by many, yes widely accepted. beliefs do not make something true no matter how many believe. Yes some "truths" as you display over and over are just unfathomable to some. In a persons belief about a soul, one can judge another has or hasn't got one based on knowing what a person is like, who they are, how they think, what they have done, how they act. Yet its still is belief based no matter if one judges that a person has or hasn't got a soul. beliefs do not equal truth. Claiming others don't have souls because you can see coincidences in numbers and what not which points to the matrix or whatever you believe the matrix is as being real is along similar lines of thinking as what some people in 1930s Germany thought about Jews, blacks and many other types of people of being sub human and how they should be exterminated, This is such a disturbing thought process that is limited to nothing but beliefs that are claimed to be true by those that believe. I really do hope you wake up from what I see as a nightmare you are stuck in that you think is some enlightening reality you have discovered.
I did call it that you will interpret what was said in the post you are replying to as an attack. I also said previously that you only focus on what you think is negative and needs defending, You ignore questions asked to explain your stance and how you define certain terms and focus on what triggers you to react defensively. All of these posts I am making are trying to help you get a glimpse of something that I have also previously mentioned. I really hope you can awaken and see things in a different light. I guess the more you search internally instead of externally you will find a way to understand things from another perspective.
You can believe what you want, trying to say your beliefs are true will be met with opposition. If you can only interpret opposition as attacking you and not simply engaging you for any number of reasons, some of which could be to try and help you when you hit a brick wall and realize you have wasted years of your life following what could be interpreted as cult like beliefs then the only issue is your own as you simply only see the negativity and cannot interpret what is relayed to you from another perspective that could help you transform what you previously thought of as negative and an attack as something positive and helpful once you gain a better view of the bigger picture that is in constant change.
and yet you still fail too enlighten us with how you define it so as to be clear and to discuss or argue while all being on the same page.
Conscious and consciousness all you said is that one is deeper than the other. I said that pretty vague and not really explaining anything. One end of a pool is deeper than the other yet it still the same pool.
what other sources have you used to convince you not all have souls then? Your intuition? is that not being manipulated by the one source you have been linking too? Forget I am asking or ignore these question like you have others.
You are one confused person. I am not arguing anything but pointing out what I am observing and my opinion about what I am observing These opinions make you get defensive and say things like "I am smarter than you." "I can do this or that better than you." do you also stick your thumbs in your ears and wave your hands and fingers while sticking out your tongue at the screen when posting that.